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[IMKid]

HOLY MOLY Chucky that's a ton of onpage seo and you aren't even done. Phew! I only skimmed through it and already saw many things I didn't know. I'm going to have to print it out, study it and get back to you with some questions.
You have a good weekend man
KIDO

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by IMKid

HOLY MOLY Chucky that's a ton of onpage seo and you aren't even done. Phew! I only skimmed through it and already saw many things I didn't know. I'm going to have to print it out, study it and get back to you with some questions.
You have a good weekend man
KIDO

Thanks man!

Will be updating the rest of the On Page SEO shortly!

[vizicore]

3 days ago i purchased the "Exact match keyword" .net for an amazon product i am trying to promote. Published the site yesterday, and now my index page JUST got indexed and is showing up in googles search. its #15. Is this good?

And I have another question... Should I try to move up one by one?(compare how i'm doing to #14) Increase my back-links?

I'm not quite sure whats next haha.

[EDIT] I want to add that the .net i registered is "PRODUCT NAME".net ...... Its a new product and they only have the .com

[L41db4ck]

Originally Posted by Chucky

Under settings --> Permalinks: I do /%postname% or /%postname%/ - pick one and always use that one to build link. Just like the www vs non-www that I mentioned earlier

DOH! Really??? Then I've been doing it wrong, can anyone confirm that this makes any difference?

[alco]

Hey Chunky.

Would you recommend any Wordpress themes to buy or just use the free ones and buy the plugins?

Thanks.

[vizicore]

Does most of your everyday income come from ClickBank?

[Cash37]

So no off page SEO? IMO thats the only part that really matters... Id love to see how you do off page.

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by vizicore

its #15. Is this good?

And I have another question... Should I try to move up one by one?(compare how i'm doing to #14) Increase my back-links?

[EDIT] I want to add that the .net i registered is "PRODUCT NAME".net ...... Its a new product and they only have the .com

Ya I think position #15 (not page 15) is great. Never had that much success in my life!

Not sure what you mean by "move up one by one"?

I don't do product names anymore, but that's a personal thing.

Good luck, you seem to be on the right pathway!

Also, the more sound your on page SEO, the less off page SEO you have to do.

Originally Posted by alco

Hey Chunky.

Would you recommend any Wordpress themes to buy or just use the free ones and buy the plugins?

Thanks.

Thesis! That's a WP theme (premium) You seemed to have missed that

Originally Posted by vizicore

Does most of your everyday income come from ClickBank?

nope, CJ

[KatyaSenina]

Man, you left out the best part on off-page SEO.

When are you adding it?

[nulen]

thanks for sharing your story m8.
very important information here, its great for a newbie like me .

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by Cash37

So no off page SEO? IMO thats the only part that really matters... Id love to see how you do off page.

In my VERY HUMBLE opinion, that's a misconception. It's NOT the ONLY part that matters. The better your on page SEO, the less work you have to do with off page SEO

If that statement of mine is wrong, so are people like Brad Fallon and Dan Thies

Originally Posted by KatyaSenina

Man, you left out the best part on off-page SEO.

When are you adding it?

soon

[younganddirty]

good stuff,

I glad you put the time and effort into this

how long did it take to write this

[Chucky]

Guys, if you have questions, please post them on the thread here and not PM me OK? Thanks!

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by younganddirty

good stuff,

I glad you put the time and effort into this

how long did it take to write this

I just finished an exam and have some free time. About 4-5 evenings so far I think

[PabloVTB]

This is an amazing thread, with solid information. Thank you for taking the time man!

[jzorro]

Hi Chucky!

Once more thank you for the valuable information regarding On Page SEO.

I have a question:

Besides About Us, Contact, Disclosure, Privacy Policy, Terms of Use and Sitemap, do have any other page (not posts...) with content? Do you optimize any page for a given keyword?

[Mike McAleer]

It was a long post,, but well worth reading. Thank you!

I agree with not putting alll eggs in same basket.

[Kitte]

Great info. Five years ago I built my page and hoped to do some money but it was waste of time. I still have the domain, I 'll do it again.

I've learned more here than from all kind of ebooks I've bought under the last five years. Most of them were pure rubbish.

Thanks - I love this forum

[seoninjashell]

Hey Chucky I am new to the IM business so i would like to ask you some questions if you don't mind, more like me telling you what im going to do and you approving or not

1. Find a product that i think has a reasonable title, content and price.

Best  Vegan Cookbook (click bank)

2. Do some keyword research and then find if i can beat it. Find some secondary kw's (didnt do for this example).

vegan breakfest cookbook
vegan dessert cookbook
vegan cookbooks
vegan cookbooks recipies

3. Create a site with the keywords listed.

ex. vegan-cook-bookdot com
ex. vegan-cookbooks-recipiesdot com
ex. vegancookbooksrecipiesdot com

4. Then i create a wordpress with an amazing theme that is clean and simple. Use the plugins that you mention, create high quality content and use unique tags for each post. Follow your structure (below)

  
    * The article should have at least 500 words
    * Main keyword has to be mentioned at a density of 2% (10 times per 500 words)
    * 3 other keywords (secondary kw) have to be mentioned at least twice in the whole article (each kw twice in the article for 3 keywords)
    * Please highlight the different kw you use in different colors in each article
    * Include 3 sub-titles – the main keyword should be in one and 2 others in the other 2 sub-titles
    * Main keyword should be mentioned in the 1st sentence and the last sentence
    * The 5 keywords are as follows. One is to be used as the primary keyword and 3 others to be used as secondaries in the article body and sub-titles as mentioned above

and then apply some other methods of posting.

5. Post some of my own hand written articles to article sites like article base (high quality content only for this site), and other article sites for a tiny bit lower quality.

6. Look for my keywords online and then post in the blogs/article sites with 3 way backlinking with a secondary domain as the re-director.

ex.
first blog has anchored link to second blog.
second blog has anchored link to third blog.
third blog contains (50% of the time anchored) to secondarysite dot com/index472723.htm that redirects to my site (not direct page, maybe a specific post).

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Hopefully you can give me some tips and advice. Thank you!

[giseo]

great thread.

also one should just not rely on a few sites for all their income, but to diversify traffic from just google, a hard lesson i learned this year.

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by jzorro

Hi Chucky!

Besides About Us, Contact, Disclosure, Privacy Policy, Terms of Use and Sitemap, do have any other page (not posts...) with content? Do you optimize any page for a given keyword?

I sometimes have an outgoing links page and a YouTube videos page. Don't ask me why I selected a page instead of post But I haven't done this with my more recent sites. I just put the outgoing links in the footer.

As far as actual content goes, I've once or twice set a 'page' optimized for the theme kw and set that on the homepage instead of a post. But then the post thing was so much easier and I stuck with it. Don't have enough statistics to tell you if one is better than the other.

Originally Posted by Kitte

I've learned more here than from all kind of ebooks I've bought under the last five years. Most of them were pure rubbish.

Thans Kitte, comments like yours make my effort worthwhile

Originally Posted by seoninjashell

5. Post some of my own hand written articles to article sites like article base (high quality content only for this site), and other article sites for a tiny bit lower quality.

6. Look for my keywords online and then post in the blogs/article sites with 3 way backlinking with a secondary domain as the re-director.

ex.
first blog has anchored link to second blog.
second blog has anchored link to third blog.
third blog contains (50% of the time anchored) to secondarysite dot com/index472723.htm that redirects to my site (not direct page, maybe a specific post).

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Hopefully you can give me some tips and advice. Thank you!

1,2,3,4 looks good.

5. I would submit my premium content to EzineArticles.com and NOT ArticlesBase. The latter accepts relatively low value content compared to EzineArticles.com. Besides, the link you get from ArticlesBase is a no follow.

6. I'm sorry, this is not clear to me.

I will be covering more than that for off page SEO. So if you can be patient for another week at most, you'll get a better idea about link building.

[vizicore]

I just did a search on my main keyword and I have now dropped to page 4. I'm a little upset and then i did a search for my "site:mydomain.com" to see that the only thing different is they indexed ONE of my tags. Could this be the reason i dropped? Should i exclude my tags from my sitemap? How exactly do i do that? How about categories too...

[ddBoom]

Originally Posted by vizicore

I just did a search on my main keyword and I have now dropped to page 4. I'm a little upset and then i did a search for my "site:mydomain.com" to see that the only thing different is they indexed ONE of my tags. Could this be the reason i dropped? Should i exclude my tags from my sitemap? How exactly do i do that? How about categories too...

I think we all, including Chucky, need some more information about the your situation in order to help.

Did you look at your competition on Page 1?
What are they doing to earn their placement on page 1. Look at their page SEO and their back links.

List some of this information and I'm sure we all could help you out.

Chucky hasn't covered off page seo yet, however backlinks are currently an essential part of SEO marketing no matter how good your on page is when there is competition involved. Chucky has noted that proper on page SEO can beat highly backlinked competition IF the competition has crappy on page SEO. We haven't seen how Chucky does off page seo yet, but I'm assuming backlinks of some sort do play a roll.

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by vizicore

I just did a search on my main keyword and I have now dropped to page 4. I'm a little upset and then i did a search for my "site:mydomain.com" to see that the only thing different is they indexed ONE of my tags. Could this be the reason i dropped? Should i exclude my tags from my sitemap? How exactly do i do that? How about categories too...

Hey,

This is the one for which you had #15 right? And now it's down to #30 something? With brand new sites, this is not uncommon. Google may have given your site a higher ranking based on the freshness of the content and/or backlinks. But as this freshness becomes 'stale', the site goes back to its 'natural' position. This may be what you're seeing here.

I honestly don't know how big of a role the tag played. Thesis gives the option of noindexing tag pages. There might be plugins that do the same job. Some people say duplicate tag pages (from different posts) can act as duplicate content. This is another reason why I use few tags and keep them focused.

Anyways, there is an easy way to find out if the tag really was the culprit. Google simply is an algorithm. If you remove that tag and get Google to cache it again, the site should come back up; provided the culprit was the tag.

There is also something called the Google 'minus 20' -30 penalty' etc. If you are down from 15 to exactly 35, it could be one of those too. There are different reasons why you would get specific penalties and I'm not well versed with them. May be you can do some research and share with us

Just keep building links and strengthening links naturally and at an increasing pace.

Good luck!

[vizicore]

Well... Only four of my pages have been indexed so far but as for my competitors.. My top competitor.. the "ProductName.com" has a PR of 0 and about 100 backlinks. SeoQuake says they have 200 pages but I highly doubt that. Mine currently has 104 backlinks. Is their any way to QUICKLY get my entire site indexed? It has approx 8 posts and their getting indexed at a rate of like 1 per day, and even then they end up dead because I didn't optimize the links (/2011/03/)

I told ALL in One SEO to not index my tags or category's and I added more backlinks to related blogs. I really hope my rank improves because its only been getting worse. My home page is now on page 5 while one of my posts are on page 2.

If i'm failing to communicate I apologize. I'm trying to express myself as best I can but it's difficult.

Thanks for the help

[EDIT] Fortunately im #1 and #2 on my second keyword... "product name "prices""

[EDIT AGAIN] I have absolutely no idea whats going on.... Now I'm appear as #7... well the last result on the first page for my main keyword. This is much better.. but I don't understand at all what I did... IF i did anything to effect it haha.

[ddBoom]

Originally Posted by vizicore

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[EDIT AGAIN] I have absolutely no idea whats going on.... Now I'm appear as #7... well the last result on the first page for my main keyword. This is much better.. but I don't understand at all what I did... IF i did anything to effect it haha.

Sounds like the google dance to me... I'm not sure what goes on during that time or what to do, but it sounds like it to me...

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by vizicore

Well... Only four of my pages have been indexed so far but as for my competitors..

If i'm failing to communicate I apologize. I'm trying to express myself as best I can but it's difficult.

Thanks for the help

[EDIT] Fortunately im #1 and #2 on my second keyword... "product name "prices""

[EDIT AGAIN] I have absolutely no idea whats going on.... Now I'm appear as #7... well the last result on the first page for my main keyword. This is much better.. but I don't understand at all what I did... IF i did anything to effect it haha.

I wonder if it's the length/uniqueness of content that is preventing them from getting indexed.

No worries, ask whatever you want - but I am not able to answer every question because I don't know a ton of things, like the next point I'm about to make.

May be it's possible to correct your permalinks and do a 301 redirect so that you still get the juice from the links you already made. But you will have to read up on this, I have never had to do it.

It could be the dance as ddBoom says. Did you also try to clear cookies/browser cache and redo the search? Also sign out of your gmail? I sometimes see that Google gives me a 'personalized' search based on what it judges to be my personal preferences.

[tayuyaa]

Thanks chucky, what you've added it's really great value

[Chucky]

Just edited and added something I forgot in the original on page SEO section. As and when these things come to my head, I will go on and add them.

Added later - points forgotten to include in the original post

• I nofollow the link to my RSS/subscribe on the homepage. Thesis gives an option in its dashboard for you to nofollow this. There may be plugins to do this for generic WP themes or you can manually add the rel="nofollow" attribute to the code if you can find the place.

[krish21]

Great inspirational post Chucky. Waiting for off page SEO tips and strategies.

[asim566]

hard to grasp..................

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by asim566

hard to grasp..................

I agree that it is hard to grasp if you're starting out. We've all been there and have conquered it.

As someone said, there is no easy button. YOU have to learn it, YOU have to do the kw research, YOU have to do .....that's the only way YOU will be successful.

Even if you outsource everything, YOU have to at least know the theory behind it to be able to give instructions.

If you have any specific questions, shoot them.... even climbing mount Everest begins with that first step you take

[Chucky]

Day 13 - April 2nd

Off Page SEO
Sorry, the original post was becoming too long and decided to add it as a separate post.
I want to say one thing before I even start this section. There is a lot of stuff and you can get discouraged if you are just starting out. But what you need to realize is that I didn’t do any of this when I was starting out as well. I didn’t spend a single dime (except for a domain name and hosting account), I didn’t outsource, I didn’t have software, I did everything by myself, and I did only a fraction of the things that I’m doing now and I still succeeded. Sure, later on I bought some toys to speed things up. So please don’t be discouraged, start small, reinvest your earnings on the business, rinse and repeat, then you can do all the high throughput automation stuff that I do and MORE.

At the end, I will also tell you what you can do without spending a dime and still be able to dominate a low competition kw to get you started.
The basics are relatively simple. Build as many links as possible. The more ‘good’ links you build, the better! I’m going to make a few sub-headings just for the sake of better organization.

1. Anchor text hyperlinks vs hard URLs
2. Link diversity
3. IP diversity
4. Link velocity
5. No follow vs do follow
6. Indexing/strengthening your backlinks
7. Going high throughput - automation
8. Minimizing your footprint
9. Mimicking the ‘natural’ situation
10. How I do it now
11. How I did it when I got started
12. Here’s a plan

Anchor text hyperlinks vs hard URLs

Simply put, the former is better than the latter. But you want a mixture so that it doesn’t look too unnatural. I don’t use exact figures here like 82.5% of one and 17.5% of the other. I go for anchor text whenever possible and resort to a hard URLs when a particular site doesn’t allow hyperlinks.

Do I vary the anchor text? If you have read a lot of SEO guides, you would have seen people recommending you to vary your anchor text. 60% of the main kw, 20% of that and another 20% of that etc. But if you have read as many SEO guides as I have, you would have also observed that some SEO experts advise against varying your anchor text. I think I have mentioned this earlier, but I’m saying it again. I’ve heard Terry Kyle saying that he has observed sites losing rankings for the theme kw, when he starts building links with 2ry kw anchor text. This has been my observation too. I’ve had sites go down to #6 from #2 overnight after building a few links with 2ry kw as anchor text. Was the drop in rankings purely caused by this link building or something else that happened coincidently? I have no idea. But after that, this is the approach I’ve been taking.

• Homepage – theme kw anchor text only
• Sticky post – theme kw anchor text only
• Other posts with 2ry kw – the bulk have theme kw while some have the relevant 2ry kw (again no breakdown by percentage here; I’m really ‘loose’ here)

Hope that makes sense. This is purely my method of skinning the cat and as I’ve said over and over, there are many methods of skinning a cat. What’s important is to not get bogged down comparing and contrasting and spending hours on different methods of doing it, but picking out any one of them and just doing it before your competitor does. If you’re not targeting hypercompetitive terms, the chances are that whichever method you pick is going to work.

Link diversity

This can have multiple meanings. Links from article directories, video sites, social bookmarking etc. is one kind of diversity. Another kind is the location of your link: in text hyperlinks (also known as editorial links) that are in the middle of a paragraph (some people say resource box links also belong to this category); those on sidebars and footers etc.
Let’s try to make a comprehensive list encompassing both kinds.

1. Social networking – there are different ‘departments’ to this
   1. Content submission to web 2.0 properties – I’m talking about places like wordpress.com, WikiSpaces, LiveJournal and Squidoo here
   2. Social bookmarking – manual vs automated/ High PR vs low PR/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
   3. Digging (DIGG), Liking (FB) and tweeting – traffic and/or backlinks depending on how you do it
2. Article directories – the ones worth doing a manual submission/ Tier 1
3. Blog networks – the better with more PR/trust rank/authority; paid ones/ Tier 1
4. Article directories/Blog networks – 10,000s of places that you can submit articles to; I’m talking about paid ones like Unique Article Wizard, SEO Link Vine, AMA, Article Marketing Robot etc. and free ones like the Free Traffic System/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
5. Video distribution – for traffic and/or backlinks? / Tier 1
6. Press release submission/ Tier 1
7. Software directory/PAD file submission/ Tier 1
8. Forums - Profile links and/or signature/ .com vs .edu/ high PR vs not so high PR/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
9. Blog comments – manual vs automated/ .com vs .edu/ high PR vs not so high PR/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
10. Web directory submission (can’t remember the last time I did that; doesn’t mean it doesn’t work)
11. Podcasting – traffic and/or backlinks (never done it; but I know it’s powerful) / Tier 1
12. High PR homepage backlinks/ Tier 1
13. Your own network for backlinks – hosted on your own server/s/ Tier 1
14. Guest blog posts (again, never done it – but should) / Tier 1
15. RSS submissions
16. Editorial backlinks – inside paragraphs and article resource boxes
17. Footer, Sidebar/blogroll
18. Numbered and bulleted lists
19. Do follow and no follow (I’m including this also here because it adds to the diversity)
20. IP diversity (again I’m listing it here, but will discuss with more detail later on)

I’m not going to give you a list of the exact properties I use in each category. I’m sure you can find plenty simply by searching inside WF or on Google. However, I will mention a few important things here that address some of the sections above.

If you have studied SEO for a while, you know you have to strengthen you backlinks by building more backlinks to them. So out of all the options above, you will have to decide which properties will be used to backlink your money site (Tier 1 backlinks) and which properties would be used to strengthen those backlinks (Tier 2 backlinks). If time and resources were unlimited, ideally you want to use all the properties you can find as Tier 1 backlinks and then all those properties again and again to backlink each one of those Tier 1 backlinks. That is not practical. Therefore what you need to do is to select the higher quality properties as Tier 1 backlinks and the lower quality properties as Tier 2 backlinks.

How do you measure higher quality vs lower quality?

To keep it simple, I’m going to say PR is the answer. However, it’s not the perfect answer and I don’t know a perfect answer. Things like trust rank, relevancy may also matter. But then again, different people have different views on these as well.

I have added Tier 1 or Tier 1 vs 2 to the end of some of the properties above as a guideline for you to think a little bit about. If you decide a property is ‘high quality’ then use it as a Tier 1 link. If it is also relatively easy to get many backlinks from that property, consider using it to backlink some of your more authoritative Tier 1 backlinks. This is why I divide article directories and blog networks as Tier 1 properties and Tier 2 properties. EzineArticles, ArticlesBase, GoArticles, Buzzle, Article Dashboard etc. are Tier 1 for me. Among blog networks, Build My Rank is tier 1 for me. The web 2.0 properties are definitely tier 1 for me. However, I use them as tier 2 links as well to backlink some of my better tier 1 links.

Hope that is not too unclear

Something I like to mention here is that you don’t have to do all of above. As you can see, I have never done some of those in my life. And for some of my sites, I haven’t done more than a few of above types while others require more.

Again, rather than reading and learning forever, you should just get on with it and get the ball rolling. Nobody knows what’s exactly correct (except Google I guess). I have seen top SEO experts saying that a link from an EzineArticle is only as good as a forum profile link from a domain with the same PR. I’m not sure I agree with that statement, but then it really doesn’t matter. I would go ahead and get a link from each place without arguing with the guy

IP diversity

I’m not an expert of techy stuff like IP addresses. The way I understand, all our websites are hosted on a computer somewhere and they are called servers. These servers have an address called the IP address. The more diverse the IP addresses of your tier 1 backlink profile, the more popular your site is in Google’s eyes; and therefore higher rankings.

With web 2.0, social bookmarking, video submissions etc., you can only get so many IP diverse links. However, when it comes to privately owned blogs/article directories, forums, blog comments, guest blogging etc., there is almost no limit to the number of IP diverse backlinks you can get. There are many article/blog networks that have many thousands of websites in them or article submission software that will submit to many thousands of them. Unique article wizard, SEO Link Vine, My Article Network, Free Traffic System, Article Marketing Automation, Article Ranks, Niche Press Platinum, SEO Ultimate Network, Article Marketing Robot, Article Post Robot are examples of such systems that I have used at least once (doesn’t necessarily mean that I recommend them). That’s at least 20K websites (doesn’t mean they are IP diverse) and should be enough IP diversity to dominate relatively smaller niches with not too much competition.

Link velocity

Think about this for a minute. Let’s assume a brand new website with a ton of valuable information on ‘how to get out of debt’ is launched. As the good news about this website spreads, its popularity will increase. If it got 1000 visitors the 1st week, it will be 2000 the 2nd week, 4000 the 3rd week and so on. A backlink under ‘natural’ conditions would be site A recommending site B by means of a link to site B. As this ‘get out of debt’ site gets popular, it will also come across web masters and they would genuinely start saying there is this great new site on ‘how to get out of debt’. Just like visitors, the speed at which this site gets links will also increase. This is what is termed link velocity.

You should try and emulate this ‘natural’ rhythm in your link building campaign. This is why building 5,000 links today and building none for the next two weeks is not good. Either you should build links at an increasing velocity or you should make Google discover them at an increasing velocity. You can do the latter by pinging an increasing number of backlinks everyday.

You cannot go on building links at an increasing pace forever. The idea is that any new website will have this initial exponential growth and then it wanes off and plateaus. Once it reaches that plateau phase, all you need is maintenance level backlinks. This maintenance level depends on what your competition is doing to maintain their rankings!

ALL OF ABOVE IS NOT COMPULSORY
I’m sure all this is fine and works. But trust me, with my kind of schedule, I have never been able to build my links with this kind of increasing velocity. I just build ‘em when I have time and I still get some decent success. If I did it at an increasing pace, maybe I would get better results.

No follow vs Do follow

I’m not going to describe to you what each type is. I bring this up because I want to emphasize a point. A lot of people only build Do follow links and don’t build no follow links. If they do build the latter, those would be from auto approve blog comment pages that have 100s of spam comments on them. But no follow blog comments from highly authoritative sites are unbelievably powerful. There are many high authority sites that allow anchor text in the comments (where your name goes) and if you look around a little bit you can find many high PR pages where the comments are open. These pages are typically moderated and your comments will be approved only if you make a valid non-spam comment. I have had my sites jump from like #7-8 to #1-3 overnight from a single no follow link like this. If you are still on page 12, the effect may not be the same. There’s only one way to find out

Indexing/strengthening your backlinks

10,000 do follow editorial links on PR4 pages that Google doesn’t know of is as good as ZERO links (highly exaggerated example). Google has to crawl them and index them for them to be of any value. First Google has to find out it exists, then depending on various factors, Google will decide to index it or not. If you made the link on the homepage of a highly crawled website, then Google will not have trouble finding it. But what if you build a link on one of those hidden profile pages of a forum? Google has no reason to go in to those dark corners.

So there are two things: making sure Google finds it and then making sure Google indexes it.

1. Pinging will help Google find them, and the chances are Google will also index quite a lot of them especially if they are unique content (articles for example). If Google doesn’t index them at once, you can ping several times, build a few backlinks to it etc. and try to force Google to index them.
2. Once they are indexed you can also try to make them more valuable to your money site as a backlink. You can try to increase its PR and/or its strength as a backlink by building Tier 2 backlinks to it. Remember, if it’s a profile link, it may never get a PR that shows up as a green bar on the Google tool bar. However, it still acquires PR and you just won’t see that. May be it’s 0.2332 and Google tool bar doesn’t show it. But if you have 1000s of links with 0.2332 PR, that would give some serious link juice to your money site. And of course the way to do it is by building tier 2 backlinks. How many and which tier 1 backlinks are you going to backlink? Depends on how valuable the tier 1 link is, how much time you have and how much automation you have done. This is where I talked about low quantity-high quality tier 1 backlinks and low quality-high quantity tier 2 backlinks. Backlink booster (Sean Donahoe), Backlink Energizer (Steve Aylor), Link Juicer, Link Juice Maximizer (Pat Jackson and Gary Becks), Mega Link Blaster (Don and Jeremy), Link Thunder (a new WSO I saw within the last 48 hours – haven’t used it), XRumer blasts, mass blog commenting (e.g. Scrapebox) etc, come in to play.

Going high throughput – automation

The beauty is that you can automate and/or outsource most of the steps in link building. I have someone that writes and submits articles to EzineArticles. I pay only once the article is approved. Then I manually spin this article or get it rewritten and submit to other high PR article directories. I have software that does this part as well; however, I find that the success rate is highest when I do it manually. For making web 2.0 properties, of course there are various programs. SENUKE, Rank Builder and Magic Submitter are programs that I’ve used at various time points. I’ve already mentioned blog networks and article distribution software that automates the article distribution. You can use these as tier 1 and/or tier 2. Then I’ve also mentioned some systems that can be used specifically for tier 2. For social bookmarking there is the famous Social bookmarking service. Fast tagging and posting to all major social websites - SocialMarker.com which is a free service. SocialADR, BookMarking Demon etc. are automated bookmarking services.

BigMike’s modestly priced software suite at Incansoft | Experience The Difference Today! gives tools to automate almost all of above steps. I have a bunch of them and I will tell you later which ones I actively use.
For software directory submissions, promosoft from PromoSoft - fast and accurate automatic software promotion and submission solution is great.
All these are great if you know the proper way to use them. I have my ways and I feel they must be good because I get good results. But I’m sure there must be other ways of using them (possibly better than mine). I don’t pretend to know it all J (contrary to what my mother says).

This is it for now guys, hoping to finish up the off page SEO section within the course of the week or preferably even this weekend.

Hope you will profit from my effort!

Update April 7th

New content added - how I spin articles for extra juice. Check out page 4 of the thread!

[aulia]

it is the best part that i'm waiting for

[Jeremy Banks]

Wow, thanks for the detailed post. I make most of my money from adsense and am now starting on Amazon and clickbank

[abhibh]

Just finished reading the first page and amazing stuff.

Just a quick question regarding EMD. Lets say bestcoloncleanser.com (.net .org) are not available would you go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ??

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by abhibh

Just finished reading the first page and amazing stuff.

Just a quick question regarding EMD. Lets say bestcoloncleanser.com (.net .org) are not available would you go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ??

Good question. But I really don't want you to take my word on this. This is why I said "I suggest you look at the examples I have given and make an intelligent decision as to what you feel suits best for your particular situation." The answer I'm giving you below is NOT complete because I haven't done the other aspects of kw research for this phrase OK?

Let's see if I can give a good answer. There are 2 things here. First you need to see if 'best colon cleanser' or 'best colon cleansers' have a higher search volume (competition analysis etc.). If the latter has a higher search volume, I would go for that even if the competition is little bit tougher.

Would I go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ?? In my opinion it won't make or break things depending on which one you choose as long as your other on page or off page SEO are on target. Given my current capacity in SEO, I would go with the non-hyphenated version and my sticky post would be bestcoloncleansers.com/best-colon-cleanser if I'm targeting the singular version of the kw.

Hope that helps. Nobody can (or should) give you a concrete answer without for example testing 10 domains of each kind with similar competition and then creating similar off page SEO strategies. If only one does that kind of testing can he say OK I can clearly say that A is better than B after my tests!

Originally Posted by Millerking

Hi Chucky
I read your really long post, at one point i can't agree with you:
" E-M-D : e.g. flip-videoreviews.com (one hyphen is better than two hyphens)."

You really think one hyphen is better?
flip-videoreviews.com or flipvideo-reviews.com is better than flip-video-reviews.com?

I did many search, so far i never see a example with one hyphen domain name ranked at top.

Regards
Miller

Hey Miller,

Thanks for a good question. In Illinois, the search for 'find cell phone numbers' brings the 1st result as find-cellphonenumbers.com. This has over 68 million results and over 150,000 phrase matches. I've seen many other examples.

I think the reason why you're not seeing many of those is because people use that format of EMDs relatively rarely.

But you pointed out something very good. What I wanted to say was 'fewer the hyphens - better it is'. I've seen many people say this. Will edit the original post to reflect that.

Thanks again for a good question.

[seye]

@chucky how do we know product to promote on black fridays or are there some product that are black friday oriented.would love your insight on this.nice thread bro

Originally Posted by Chucky

Good question. But I really don't want you to take my word on this. This is why I said "I suggest you look at the examples I have given and make an intelligent decision as to what you feel suits best for your particular situation." The answer I'm giving you below is NOT complete because I haven't done the other aspects of kw research for this phrase OK?

Let's see if I can give a good answer. There are 2 things here. First you need to see if 'best colon cleanser' or 'best colon cleansers' have a higher search volume (competition analysis etc.). If the latter has a higher search volume, I would go for that even if the competition is little bit tougher.

Would I go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ?? In my opinion it won't make or break things depending on which one you choose as long as your other on page or off page SEO are on target. Given my current capacity in SEO, I would go with the non-hyphenated version and my sticky post would be bestcoloncleansers.com/best-colon-cleanser if I'm targeting the singular version of the kw.

Hope that helps. Nobody can (or should) give you a concrete answer without for example testing 10 domains of each kind with similar competition and then creating similar off page SEO strategies. If only one does that kind of testing can he say OK I can clearly say that A is better than B after my tests!



Hey Miller,

Thanks for a good question. In Illinois, the search for 'find cell phone numbers' brings the 1st result as find-cellphonenumbers.com. This has over 68 million results and over 150,000 phrase matches. I've seen many other examples.

I think the reason why you're not seeing many of those is because people use that format of EMDs relatively rarely.

But you pointed out something very good. What I wanted to say was 'fewer the hyphens - better it is'. I've seen many people say this. Will edit the original post to reflect that.

Thanks again for a good question.

[giseo]

great thread.

a couple questions though.

when doing link building how many links do you build to get the site where you want it? do you set daily, weekly goal numbers?

and how long does it take for your sites to get on the first page at least? how long do you wait?

[katem]

Thank you for sharing your experience and honest input here!

Kate

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by seye

@chucky how do we know product to promote on black fridays or are there some product that are black friday oriented.would love your insight on this.nice thread bro

Good question! Since I'm not going to tell you exactly which ones I sold I did a Google search and found this one Top-selling products on Black Friday 2008 | ZDNet

It's for 2008, but I'm sure if you search more you'll find best sold stuff in 2010 etc.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by giseo

great thread.

a couple questions though.

when doing link building how many links do you build to get the site where you want it? do you set daily, weekly goal numbers?

and how long does it take for your sites to get on the first page at least? how long do you wait?

The number of links is highly variable depending on whether you grab the EMD or not and the competition. I have had sites hitting 1st page (note #1 position) with nothing more than bookmarking and within 3 weeks! But then again I have sites nearly 3 years old and still on 2nd page with over 4000 links (of course this is not the typical 5 page site for promoting Amazon products).

It's really that variable.

[JRCarson]

Great thread Chucky!

I wanted to point out (because it happened to me!) that you do NOT want to have the word "Amazon" or any other trademarks or product names in your domain name. If you do this, Amazon will drop your account, keeping all accrued earnings without warning. It's kind of hidden in their TOS...or I am dumb and didn't see it...either way...

I luckily got my account back and will get accrued commissions, but lost a real money maker, and it goes to show that EMD's aren't always the way to go (I'd be wary of brand names).

Just my two cents. Nice thread! Keep it up!

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by JRCarson

Great thread Chucky!

I wanted to point out (because it happened to me!) that you do NOT want to have the word "Amazon" or any other trademarks or product names in your domain name. If you do this, Amazon will drop your account, keeping all accrued earnings without warning. It's kind of hidden in their TOS...or I am dumb and didn't see it...either way...

I luckily got my account back and will get accrued commissions, but lost a real money maker, and it goes to show that EMD's aren't always the way to go (I'd be wary of brand names).

Just my two cents. Nice thread! Keep it up!

Wow thanks for sharing your experience and congrats on getting it back. Fortunately, I never tried to put Amazon in my domain name. I learned my lesson with "LEGO". I shared that story somewhere on page 2 when someone asked about product names in the domain name.

[jmorris18]

Hey Chucky , I just sent you a PM. I look forward to your reply.

Thanks,
Jason

[Rukshan]

Subscribed to this superb thread. I will spend more time here and gain the knowledge

Thanks
Rukshan

[ddBoom]

Hey Chucky... I'm curious which writing service you use or if anyone else out there can recommend one?

[b.super13]

Hi Chucky,

Do you have that excel spreadsheet where you have everything that you mark down for each site?

Thanks
Bryan

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by jmorris18

Hey Chucky , I just sent you a PM. I look forward to your reply.

Thanks,
Jason

I'm a bit behind on my PMs... getting too many of them will check out!

Originally Posted by ddBoom

Hey Chucky... I'm curious which writing service you use or if anyone else out there can recommend one?

I use Odesk. I have like 5 writers I think. I send them an email whenever I have something for them. If you've never posted a job at Odesk before, first look at how other experienced people do it (rates, conditions etc.). That way you don't run in to some of the unforeseen problems.

What I usually do is, I say I'll give you a test rewrite of about 150 words and I'll pay 50 cents for that whether I like it or not. If I like it, you get hired, if not, you only get the 50 cents

Originally Posted by b.super13

Hi Chucky,

Do you have that excel spreadsheet where you have everything that you mark down for each site?

Thanks
Bryan

Yes I have, I looked at them the other day and they look very incomplete. I may brush 'em up sometime soon and post 'em. But it won't happen for a while I'm afraid. There is still a long way to go with the off page SEO part. Sorry it's getting delayed.

I've got to do stuff that earn me money as well sometimes

[lukyjoe]

Originally Posted by JRCarson

Great thread Chucky!

I wanted to point out (because it happened to me!) that you do NOT want to have the word "Amazon" or any other trademarks or product names in your domain name. If you do this, Amazon will drop your account, keeping all accrued earnings without warning. It's kind of hidden in their TOS...or I am dumb and didn't see it...either way...

I luckily got my account back and will get accrued commissions, but lost a real money maker, and it goes to show that EMD's aren't always the way to go (I'd be wary of brand names).

Just my two cents. Nice thread! Keep it up!

I'm in Colorado too but since last year when Amazon stopped taking affiliates from Colorado I abandoned the idea of Amazon product sites. But I see you managed to keep your account, would you mind sharing how did you keep it?
Thank you

[JRCarson]

Originally Posted by lukyjoe

I'm in Colorado too but since last year when Amazon stopped taking affiliates from Colorado I abandoned the idea of Amazon product sites. But I see you managed to keep your account, would you mind sharing how did you keep it?
Thank you

I was dropped in March of last year (like all the other Coloradans) and that's when I started making good money finally!

So it was kind of a slap in the face to say the least, but it took 2 hours to set up another company in another state (using a relative's address as the company address) and swap out all the links.