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Old 03-24-2011, 11:31 AM   #1
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OK so I'm still quite new to SEO, just want to see what you guys think of my link building rountine, please let me know if its OK.


- write a blog post each week and post it on my site

- re write it slightly and submit it to 5 article directories (are duplicates OK?)

- once I've sent the same article to 5 places, I will do 2 re writes, each one going to a directory (7 total articles submitted, 5 duplicates)

-once a month write a press release and submit duplicates to 5 pr sites

- I interact on a few forums but nothing relevant to my industry really, link is in my signature

- I look for do follow blogs to comment on but not found many yet, but if I do find some I will comment

-everything is posted to onlywire (bookmarking) once approved, and posted on FB/twitter

- when using links in my content, I just completely mix it up so sometimes my website will be anchor text and then other times I rotate between my 3 main keywords, and just point them to random pages on my site

- only just found out about URL canonicalization (sp?) so think I need to sort that because half the time I write www. and other times I dont. OOPS!

Please let me know what you think, some pointers would be great!

I'm paranoid about getting penalised for duplicate content, so maybe I should re write everything? Just take a good 15 minutes to re write something properly, a lot of time!

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You won't get penalized for duplicate content. It's just that your third+ iteration of the article online won't produce any SEO benefit.
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You won't get penalized for duplicate content. It's just that your third+ iteration of the article online won't produce any SEO benefit.
Oh really!? Ah thats good to know

So whats best practice, to just submit duplicates to 3 places and then re write and repeat?

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That would be my suggestion. I like to have more than three versions of an article out there, since article directories vanish or go crazy with deletes (like Goarticles did last year). The more versions I have out there, the more immune I am to the fluidity of the net.

But if you're rewriting, three of each version is good. Maybe four, since I guarantee one will be gone by next year.
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do most people follow this notion?

what you think of my routine?

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Can anyone else confirm this please?

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You won't get penalized for duplicate content. It's just that your third+ iteration of the article online won't produce any SEO benefit.
Not saying youre wrong bcmwp, I appreciate your help, just would be good to get a couple other opinions as well.

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Its true that you won't get penalize for duplicate contents but Google will love your site more if you post unique contents. Also try to post comments on blogs that are related to your niche. You might also want to consider finding forums that is related to your niche and become an active member there.
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I agree with the following comments. Google does like to see content everywhere, and it can be duplicated. As long as you have your keywords repeated throughout the blog as well.
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The time you spend re writing, could be spent writing something original. Why do you keep linking to 'random pages'? Keyword 1 - page 1, keyword 2 - page 2...etc. Be consisitent in your linking. No need to mix it up.
Once your content has been published...go promote it elsewhere, more than facebook and twitter. There are many social media sites to promote it at. Likewise, promote your blog posts. If you could make it all original instead of reposting and rewriting, you would get more mileage out of it.

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You won't get penalized for duplicate content. It's just that your third+ iteration of the article online won't produce any SEO benefit.
I can confirm this is correct. (Well it is generally accepted as correct.)

Are you posting to the same article directories? If you are post to different ones.

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The time you spend re writing, could be spent writing something original. Why do you keep linking to 'random pages'? Keyword 1 - page 1, keyword 2 - page 2...etc. Be consisitent in your linking. No need to mix it up.
Once your content has been published...go promote it elsewhere, more than facebook and twitter. There are many social media sites to promote it at. Likewise, promote your blog posts. If you could make it all original instead of reposting and rewriting, you would get more mileage out of it.
This is easier said than done though, promote it how exactly, just post it? No one has enough time in their life to go around building relationships on ten different sites. I submit to onlywire which sends stuff to the top sites like SU, reddit, digg etc. What would u do exactly?

Thanks for the tips on original content and the links, will take both on board.

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If that SEO routine that the OP provide is not up to par, what do you warriors suggest him do on a day to say basis for off-page seo work? Maybe that could enlighten him and maybe show the light to the rest of the newbies who are fairly new to this game. Maybe someone like me.
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I'm paranoid about getting penalised for duplicate content, so maybe I should re write everything? Just take a good 15 minutes to re write something properly, a lot of time!
That's exactly what your competition wants - get paranoid and slow down so they can get ahead. Don't lose your momentum, backlink, backlink, backlink!

There's no reason to worry about duplicate content -> this term only refers to the same content on the same site. Some of the most well respected article marketers on the forum post all of their articles on their site first before syndicating it elsewhere -> no penalty, only benefits (traffic + backlinks).

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do most people follow this notion?

what you think of my routine?
No... only people starting out follow that routine or something similar.

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Not saying youre wrong bcmwp, I appreciate your help, just would be good to get a couple other opinions as well.
You won't be penalized for duplicate content, unless you have a few pages on your site with duplicate content, but even then it isn't likely.

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If that SEO routine that the OP provide is not up to par, what do you warriors suggest him do on a day to say basis for off-page seo work? Maybe that could enlighten him and maybe show the light to the rest of the newbies who are fairly new to this game. Maybe someone like me.

Okay...

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- write a blog post each week and post it on my site Should be done once a day, at the least every other day

- re write it slightly and submit it to 5 article directories (are duplicates OK?) Duplicates are fine... just spin it for most benefit.

- once I've sent the same article to 5 places, I will do 2 re writes, each one going to a directory (7 total articles submitted, 5 duplicates) Why? Why rewrite just to submit it again.... you can just spin the artists.

-once a month write a press release and submit duplicates to 5 pr sites I generate thousands a month from my press releases... I submit to minimum of 30 pr sites and link push my press releases with a wheel of other pres releases

- I interact on a few forums but nothing relevant to my industry really, link is in my signature High link saturation doesn't help much. 10,000 backlinks on one domain isn't as good as 100 backlinks on 100 different domains. Forum posting doesn't help much other than getting indexed quickly... and if you're in a relevant forum, you might generate sales.

- I look for do follow blogs to comment on but not found many yet, but if I do find some I will comment You're wasting time... comment on whatever blog you come across.

-everything is posted to onlywire (bookmarking) once approved, and posted on FB/twitter I don't use onlywire. All the bookmarking I do, is create 10 accounts on stumbleupon, delicious, digg, and reddit. That is all. Create a fan page and build up your followers on twitter. A safe number of fans and followers to get is 500 a month.

- when using links in my content, I just completely mix it up so sometimes my website will be anchor text and then other times I rotate between my 3 main keywords, and just point them to random pages on my site
Yeah that is good... but i think you're probably hurting yourself as far as results go. I'll target 3 keywords, focus about 65% on the primary keyword, 20 on number 2, 10 on number 3, and then split the remainder up. It isn't something you need to spend much time worrying about. Just get back links, you're making it too complicated from the start. You don't need to get complicated.
- only just found out about URL canonicalization (sp?) so think I need to sort that because half the time I write www. and other times I dont. OOPS!

Yep, you're paranoid about being penalized but you don't have a 301 redirect up, so it appears to be duplicate content anyway lol. Stop being paranoid, only build links to one version of the site, and set up a 301 redirect.
Please let me know what you think, some pointers would be great!

I'm paranoid about getting penalised for duplicate content, so maybe I should re write everything? Just take a good 15 minutes to re write something properly, a lot of time!

Are you ranking right now? How much traffic are you getting from the search engines? If none, then you need to just stop with the nonsensical worrying. If you don't have the results you want, you might as well be penalized... makes no difference wouldn't you say?


You have a little bit right. Focus on building backlinks, don't worry about dofollow or nofollow, it makes no difference and you're spending too much time trying to find dofollow blogs. Blog comments aren't very useful anyway. Once in a while you'll find some gems, but for the most part it just doesn't happen that way. People abuse high PR blogs with autoapprove comments.

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I ask you a simple question.

Have you been successful with this current strategy? your keywords getting ranked and getting desired traffic from them? have your conversions increased? have your search engine % visits increased? have you been banned or penalized from any link building resource for various reasons?

If your answer to all of my question is positive then you're doing the right thing. I'm not sure about your quality thing but If I were you, i wouldn't be doing too much of "article spinning" in the wake of Google's FARMER / PANDA update

If you know what i mean.

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Do the good stuff you will get the credit
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Well, that is a good routine already. But if you can find some other strategies then you can apply it.
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- write a blog post each week and post it on my site Should be done once a day, at the least every other day

Is fresh content on your site more effective in boosting rankings than distributing articles etc? Just sounds very often, but if it works I will do it (although they wont all be very long)

- re write it slightly and submit it to 5 article directories (are duplicates OK?) Duplicates are fine... just spin it for most benefit.

So you suggest spinning and sending to 100 or so sites? Does the spinner distribute it for you also?

- once I've sent the same article to 5 places, I will do 2 re writes, each one going to a directory (7 total articles submitted, 5 duplicates) Why? Why rewrite just to submit it again.... you can just spin the artists.

To save me having to buy a spinner, not sure how much they cost (plus matt cutts recent vid sais how articles are not effective in google and they will continue to become less effective)

-once a month write a press release and submit duplicates to 5 pr sites I generate thousands a month from my press releases... I submit to minimum of 30 pr sites and link push my press releases with a wheel of other pres releases

must take you a while to submit to 30 sites, do you only submit to ones you know allow links? I've found that most don't.

can you please explain what you mean by link push your pr's with a wheel of other pr's?


- I interact on a few forums but nothing relevant to my industry really, link is in my signature High link saturation doesn't help much. 10,000 backlinks on one domain isn't as good as 100 backlinks on 100 different domains. Forum posting doesn't help much other than getting indexed quickly... and if you're in a relevant forum, you might generate sales.

So in actuality, I shouldn't really bother with forum posting just for seo? sounds like concentrating on blog/pr/articles is the way forward..

- I look for do follow blogs to comment on but not found many yet, but if I do find some I will comment You're wasting time... comment on whatever blog you come across.

I just dont see the benefit if theyre no follow, but OK will do.

-everything is posted to onlywire (bookmarking) once approved, and posted on FB/twitter I don't use onlywire. All the bookmarking I do, is create 10 accounts on stumbleupon, delicious, digg, and reddit. That is all. Create a fan page and build up your followers on twitter. A safe number of fans and followers to get is 500 a month.

so you have 10 separate accounts on each of those sites? you must have a lot of email accounts, do many other people do this?

I wouldve thought the sites can see all the likes/diggs are coming from the same IP.

lol my facebook isn't getting 500 fans anytime soon


- when using links in my content, I just completely mix it up so sometimes my website will be anchor text and then other times I rotate between my 3 main keywords, and just point them to random pages on my site
Yeah that is good... but i think you're probably hurting yourself as far as results go. I'll target 3 keywords, focus about 65% on the primary keyword, 20 on number 2, 10 on number 3, and then split the remainder up. It isn't something you need to spend much time worrying about. Just get back links, you're making it too complicated from the start. You don't need to get complicated.
- only just found out about URL canonicalization (sp?) so think I need to sort that because half the time I write www. and other times I dont. OOPS!

Yep, you're paranoid about being penalized but you don't have a 301 redirect up, so it appears to be duplicate content anyway lol. Stop being paranoid, only build links to one version of the site, and set up a 301 redirect.

1. how do I know if I have a 301 redirect set up

and

2. how do I set one up?

Please let me know what you think, some pointers would be great!

I'm paranoid about getting penalised for duplicate content, so maybe I should re write everything? Just take a good 15 minutes to re write something properly, a lot of time!

Are you ranking right now? How much traffic are you getting from the search engines? If none, then you need to just stop with the nonsensical worrying. If you don't have the results you want, you might as well be penalized... makes no difference wouldn't you say?

yes I'm ranking, traffic is mediocre, but I'm in a niche so want to be (should be) dominating my keywords. spent 2 months on the seo so far.



You have a little bit right. Focus on building backlinks, don't worry about dofollow or nofollow, it makes no difference and you're spending too much time trying to find dofollow blogs. Blog comments aren't very useful anyway. Once in a while you'll find some gems, but for the most part it just doesn't happen that way. People abuse high PR blogs with autoapprove comments.

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Everything is on the right track except for duplicate content. Avoid this one and everything will be alright.

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Everything is on the right track except for duplicate content. Avoid this one and everything will be alright.
so I take it you spin everything you write

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Is fresh content on your site more effective in boosting rankings than distributing articles etc? Just sounds very often, but if it works I will do it (although they wont all be very long)

Really... I haven't updated one of my sites in about 4-5 months, and it is still ranking high. Fresh content is great, but you don't need to overdue it. Add content you think your visitors will like and you will be fine.

So you suggest spinning and sending to 100 or so sites? Does the spinner distribute it for you also?
I do it all manually. Or you can outsource to someone on fiverr to spin the article. Submitting to 10-20 sites would be fine too though, you don't need to go overboard. I do a LOT, because I run my own company and get paid for it. I do more for my clients than I do myself! Don't get burned out.

To save me having to buy a spinner, not sure how much they cost (plus matt cutts recent vid sais how articles are not effective in google and they will continue to become less effective)
Forget everything Matt Cutts says. It really isn't that important. I have posted the REAL effects of the algo change and I'm tired of repeating myself for people not to listen anyway. Article marketing is, and always will be effective. You can add me to skype and discuss a little bit sn- iAreNameLess as long as you don't bombard me with a million questions.

must take you a while to submit to 30 sites, do you only submit to ones you know allow links? I've found that most don't.

It does at first, when you first create accounts on those sites, but afterwards I get it done within an hour or so.

can you please explain what you mean by link push your pr's with a wheel of other pr's?


Add me on skype and I will share a diagram, or search some of my posts where I have attached it. After two weeks of releasing a press release, I see which is ranking on top and then spin the press release to link to the previous press release, and continue doing that.



So in actuality, I shouldn't really bother with forum posting just for seo? sounds like concentrating on blog/pr/articles is the way forward..

SEO isn't just about rankings, it is about getting traffic so you can profit! Don't ignore forum posting, it CAN help in a way that you will get traffic from it. I get about 200-400 uniques a month just from posting here on one of my sites. Focus on traffic.

I just dont see the benefit if theyre no follow, but OK will do.
Because what you've heard about nofollow is just not true. It doesn't pass pagerank, that is all... Even then, no one can really prove it because you can rank with nofollow links. A nofollow backlink from wikipedia, do you really think google isn't going to count that?

so you have 10 separate accounts on each of those sites? you must have a lot of email accounts, do many other people do this?

I don't know about other people. If you have a website, you can easily add as many email accounts as you want! I have tons of sites and tons of emails.

I wouldve thought the sites can see all the likes/diggs are coming from the same IP.

And they can, if the administration of those sites really wanted to digg up millions of bookmarks, but they don't.

lol my facebook isn't getting 500 fans anytime soon


With that attitude you're probably right!
1. how do I know if I have a 301 redirect set up

and

2. how do I set one up?

If you type in www.yoursite.com and it redirects you to http://yoursite.com then you have a 301 redirect, and vice versa.

It is very easy, usually just editing your htaccess file, most of the time, whoever hosts your site can do it for you! Just ask!




yes I'm ranking, traffic is mediocre, but I'm in a niche so want to be (should be) dominating my keywords. spent 2 months on the seo so far.

You'll get there... is your on page good? Send me a PM and I'll take a look and give you some more pointers.



Thanks a millions for your help here, much appreciated

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on the facebook fans thing, I have a positive attitude, but sometimes you're just in an industry where it aint gona happen, but I'm still hoping to build up a decent following

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I have not had much luck with article submissions at all. Please make sure the links are dofollow. I also found the re-writing of articles was to time consuming for me. Good luck and thank you for sharing your routine. I always wonder, what does everyone else do?
I also have tried commenting on dofollow blogs but becareful never to spam.

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1) I would not post the duplicate or even spinned content to several different sites. One unique blog post or article is better.

2) Try to do forum posting only on related forums.

3) I wouldn't mess with all those press releases either - maybe just one paid one that allows links.

4) I would start with anchor text for your main keywords and stick with that until you get that one ranked high and then worry about others.

5) I don't think Google likes blog comments much these days. Too spammy.

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This is fairly ok, but key is to drive traffic to your site, I think we get carried away with the get backlinks etc...

Just market your site, use all methods known in universal search, videos, images, news pieces, blog entries etc.

There are several ways to go about doing this so that it works.

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