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Old 12-11-2008, 08:18 PM   #1
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Hi friends!

Can please please explain me anyone this phenomenon.

Market: German
Keys: "Geld Verdienen" (German translation for "make money") and "Heimarbeit" (German translation for "work at home")
Domain: cashtrick . net PR3
Ranking: Place 1 and 2 in Google for the above keywords
Topic: Make money for the webmaster scamming people (make money with roulette scam)

Domain Register Date: April 2008

I am wondering what the heck is happening here. The keys are so competitive (Google Adwords Traffic worth over 1000$/day !!!)

Yahoo Link Analysis reveals:

THERE ARE 95% OF ALL BACKLINKS FROM HIGH PR RUSSIAN SITES. WOOOW. Holy ****! What kind of SEO did this crazy thing ??? For over a year I have not seen such a strange thing. Tricking google for THESE keys this is definitely gold level...

Is there anyone out there how can explain me what kind of crazy russian blackhat is happening here... ?

Would be interesting to know for the own sites !!!

Hope to get some answers asap...

Thanks Matt
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:22 PM   #2
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Hi Matt,

I have noticed a tremendous number of spamming robots eminating from Russian based operators. These bots will automatically create new email accounts and register at forums, automatically confirm their new registrations and return to the forum to post spam. There are variations that target spam at comment sections of blogs as well as simply posting spam in contact forms.

They are able to successfully spam thousands of forums, blogs, and comment and contact forms per hour from a single machine. Many of these operators have networks of hundreds of machines and are able to spam millions of websites each day.

Many forum operators have thrown in the towel due to the relentless spamming that these operators use to overwhelm the small forum operators. They either leave all this spam on their forum or shut the forum down.

These guys are usually only a few steps ahead of the search engines and one day in the near future their sites will simply disappear from the index. They have to work long and hard hours to stay ahead of the next algorithm adjustment designed to delist their sites.

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It's not the way to build long-term business if it's simply spam.

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Old 12-12-2008, 12:50 AM   #4
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Hi Matt,

I have noticed a tremendous number of spamming robots eminating from Russian based operators. These bots will automatically create new email accounts and register at forums, automatically confirm their new registrations and return to the forum to post spam. There are variations that target spam at comment sections of blogs as well as simply posting spam in contact forms.

They are able to successfully spam thousands of forums, blogs, and comment and contact forms per hour from a single machine. Many of these operators have networks of hundreds of machines and are able to spam millions of websites each day.

Many forum operators have thrown in the towel due to the relentless spamming that these operators use to overwhelm the small forum operators. They either leave all this spam on their forum or shut the forum down.

These guys are usually only a few steps ahead of the search engines and one day in the near future their sites will simply disappear from the index. They have to work long and hard hours to stay ahead of the next algorithm adjustment designed to delist their sites.
Very well explained. These guys defeat the purpose of Google's philosophy which is to provide much higher level of service and valuable content to all those who seek information.

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Old 12-12-2008, 03:04 AM   #5
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It's not the way to build long-term business if it's simply spam.
It must be quite lucrative though.

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Old 12-12-2008, 07:14 AM   #6
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I have noticed a tremendous number of spamming robots eminating from Russian based operators. These bots will automatically create new email accounts and register at forums, automatically confirm their new registrations and return to the forum to post spam. There are variations that target spam at comment sections of blogs as well as simply posting spam in contact forms.

They are able to successfully spam thousands of forums, blogs, and comment and contact forms per hour from a single machine. Many of these operators have networks of hundreds of machines and are able to spam millions of websites each day.

Many forum operators have thrown in the towel due to the relentless spamming that these operators use to overwhelm the small forum operators. They either leave all this spam on their forum or shut the forum down.
Folks, this is bull****. I have done this in the past. Spamming Blogs and Guestbooks, over 400 every 24 hours with Dedicated Servers. No Problem at all. The forum links you get from XRumer. Pay 800€ for all this and you can start, no big deal.

BUT: I can proof you: There is no way to trick google with this kind of spam. If you have to many forum links your sites disappear. What this guy has done has definitely nothing to do with Blog/Forum/Guestbook Spam. Really! This is something else, but I don't know what. Maybe an extreme big link network, or even a 10.000 hijacked servers, I dunno... In MSN and Yahoo you can so such things with these kind of Spam but not in Google. I have tried in Feb 2008 with these tools, not possible.

If someone knows these guys, please drop me a PN.

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Just as an update: The domain I was talking about dropped to nowhere, no PR, a miserable Alexa Ranking... so it was really a good blackhat trick, but did not stick long time ...

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Update: When checking their backlinks, I found that all backlinks went away. Only 15 backlinks remained.

So probably a backlink network...
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