Do I have a chance at the number 1 spot?

MichaelG469 · 04-03-2011, 09:42 PM

So I've found an interesting niche and keyword phrase I'd like to do some work with, and the SEO matrix on market samurai is telling me the number 1 spot has:
PR - 0
Page Backlinks - 13,387
.edu/.gov BL - 6
Yahoo Directory - No
Keyword in URL - No
Keyword in Title - No

Do I have a chance at number 1? How long would it take me would you approximate? I visited the site and it has probably 6 articles on it and isn't a very good site. What do you think?

Gail Ogden · 04-03-2011, 10:08 PM

You haven't mentioned how many people are actually looking for the keyword term and if the keyword term is actually a buying keyword. In other words it not a keyword like free widgets. Also make sure that the keyword could not be used for something else that running up the search numbers. In other words is it an exact match. I have dog website and you might be surprised how many different things the word dog can be used for.

MichaelG469 · 04-03-2011, 10:31 PM

It's a "how to" keyword and there are affiliate products for this keyword/niche.

iAmNameLess · 04-04-2011, 12:18 AM

Yes of course you can. The current number one spot, how many backlinks that are relevant to the keyword do they have? That will play a big role.

I would get maybe 20-30 edu backlinks...out optimize them with your site...

dadamson · 04-04-2011, 01:15 AM

It really depends on a lot more factors (more than I can mention here).

But the fact that the keyword does not appear in the title or URL at all leads me to believe that the backlinks are also not anchored towards the keyword.

It also raises a red flag on how beneficial the traffic at #1 really is if the guy at first place isn't even optimizing for the keyword.

Again, I would need more info to analyze that fully.

Cheers,
Dave

CikaPero · 04-04-2011, 04:05 AM

I think it will not be easy.

But because you said that it has very little content (and a crappy one at that) then you have a chance.

And i have no idea how long it would take you to take the lead.

GeraldGigerl · 04-04-2011, 04:21 AM

Michael,

you can definitely rank for this keyword but you have to know with how much effort and how much backlinking it requires. Just because the guy has 5 figures worth of backlinks doesn´t mean that you can´t overtake him.

Theoretically, you might easily overtake him by having better on page factors, higher quality backlinks and from more sources. PR, domain age and on page also makes a difference in ranking extremely well.

rosesmark · 04-04-2011, 05:14 AM

Its depend upon your work.How many link you build for your website/blog.I suggest you more focus on Edu Links

AndyBlackSEO · 04-04-2011, 05:30 AM

Don't just evaluate the no.1 spot. The no.2 and 3 spot might have a really weak site holding those places and those spots still bring in good traffic. Even better if your title tag is more relevant.

Anything is possible though with time, effort and persistance.

gameutopia · 04-04-2011, 05:41 AM

If you have a decent number of backlinks for your keyword anything is possible. Just depends on what the keyword or phrase is and the competition. If it is popular and your site is not it will be difficult.

Victor Edson · 04-04-2011, 05:46 AM

You can get #1 for any keyword if you put in enough work for long enough.

Other people are doing it every day... you can too if you take action an stick with it.

jamepirc · 04-04-2011, 05:46 AM

It always depends with the strategies you are applying with your websites. It doesn't mean that if you had many backlinks, you will be ranking as number one at wiki..

TBInternetMarketing · 04-04-2011, 08:59 AM

The on-page stuff looks good for you. They key with those 13,000 backlinks is how many of them are high PR backlinks (PR 3 and up?). If not many, than I'd say you could possibly outrank them with only a few hundred high PR backlinks and solid on page seo.

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MichaelG469 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Carolina Posts: 163 Thanks: 13 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Do I have a chance at the number 1 spot? So I've found an interesting niche and keyword phrase I'd like to do some work with, and the SEO matrix on market samurai is telling me the number 1 spot has: PR - 0 Page Backlinks - 13,387 .edu/.gov BL - 6 Yahoo Directory - No Keyword in URL - No Keyword in Title - No Do I have a chance at number 1? How long would it take me would you approximate? I visited the site and it has probably 6 articles on it and isn't a very good site. What do you think?
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Gail Ogden Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 69 Thanks: 40 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Do I have a chance at the number 1 spot? You haven't mentioned how many people are actually looking for the keyword term and if the keyword term is actually a buying keyword. In other words it not a keyword like free widgets. Also make sure that the keyword could not be used for something else that running up the search numbers. In other words is it an exact match. I have dog website and you might be surprised how many different things the word dog can be used for.
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MichaelG469 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Carolina Posts: 163 Thanks: 13 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Do I have a chance at the number 1 spot? It's a "how to" keyword and there are affiliate products for this keyword/niche.
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CikaPero Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 81 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Do I have a chance at the number 1 spot? I think it will not be easy. But because you said that it has very little content (and a crappy one at that) then you have a chance. And i have no idea how long it would take you to take the lead.
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GeraldGigerl Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: In My Mind Posts: 621 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 28 Thanked 164 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Do I have a chance at the number 1 spot? Michael, you can definitely rank for this keyword but you have to know with how much effort and how much backlinking it requires. Just because the guy has 5 figures worth of backlinks doesn´t mean that you can´t overtake him. Theoretically, you might easily overtake him by having better on page factors, higher quality backlinks and from more sources. PR, domain age and on page also makes a difference in ranking extremely well.
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TBInternetMarketing Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In your PC Posts: 2,075 Thanks: 83 Thanked 789 Times in 234 Posts	Re: Do I have a chance at the number 1 spot? The on-page stuff looks good for you. They key with those 13,000 backlinks is how many of them are high PR backlinks (PR 3 and up?). If not many, than I'd say you could possibly outrank them with only a few hundred high PR backlinks and solid on page seo.