I think the information given on this site is BS

[HKSEO Rotzee]

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide

I started reading this site about 5 months ago when I started up my new website. I am NOT a marketer. I run a website that does not try to scam people into buying crap. I solely rely on traffic to make money through 3rd party cpm/cpc banner networks.

I have done the whole yada yada yada and bought many different services advertised on this website and I am sorry to say that I think they are all BS.

I think 95% of the information that I have read on this website is nothing more than hot air BS.

To me a lot of the info and products that are featured on this site sounds like someone just loves to hear himself talk by writing insanely long marketing fluff.

First off, my site is receiving appox 55,000 UNIQUE Visitors per month and around 200,000 page views per month. It is not a big site and I am not claiming that it is.

In six months we are ranked in the 112,000 Quantcast and 117,000 Alexa. In other words we are slowly growing.

Since beginning to read this forum I have purchased several back linking packages. I have purchased a few article submission services. I have purchased several other packages.

Going into the 7th month of my website in operation.... I am still a Page Rank of ZERO. I have a whopping 113 backlinks.

I am using WordPress Plugins for SEO. I have a damn good site with over 6,000 pages

What's the deal???

thanks.. I actually love WF but damn, I am so frustrated

1st of all, your right...there is a lot of BS here and everywhere for that matter. I'm sorry it took you that long to find this out. But thats not to say there isn't good quality tools on here so anyone that takes offense to that is probably one of "those" people talking out of their ass.

The problem is you need to stop looking for a magic bullet. You need to put in the time to learn this stuff yourself so that you can differentiate the BS from quality programs and tactics.

2nd of all, why do you care if your Page Rank is 0? Are you planning on selling it later? If not, with that many visitors....who cares? Work on ranking for your keywords. And with 6000 pages, you should pick up tons of long tail keywords. PR is just a near worthless number.

Lastly, as far as backlinks go, its like PR..who cares how many show up in YSE/GOOGLE. They both choose which ones they want you to see and it varies day by day. Most they don't even show...so don't cling to this number.

Bottom line, are your SERPS going up, are your visitors going up. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck, this is a long journey that has its ups and downs but if you stick with it and take the time to learn the in and outs..you will go far.

[jacked]

Originally Posted by bcalling23

Patience Grasshopper

This.

Did you look at what the quality of the links you bought? What type of links they were? Try any indexing techniques?

100 backlinks isn't much and it can't guarantee you any PR.

There are sites with thousands of links which are PR 0.

[theseoguys]

I'll trade you your traffic for one of my PR3 sites if PR is what will make you happy?

[tdj]

55,000 uniques a month? You have adsense on your site? If you did and only got a 3% clickthru, that would make you over $400 a month assuming you are getting approx .25 cents a click. How are you monetizing your site? Who are you selling to? What do they want?

[HKSEO Rotzee]

Originally Posted by theseoguys

I'll trade you your traffic for one of my PR3 sites if PR is what will make you happy?

Yeah, that sounds like a fair trade...I say GO FOR IT :P

[azmanar]

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide

I started reading this site about 5 months ago when I started up my new website. I am NOT a marketer. I run a website that does not try to scam people into buying crap. I solely rely on traffic to make money through 3rd party cpm/cpc banner networks.

I have done the whole yada yada yada and bought many different services advertised on this website and I am sorry to say that I think they are all BS.

I think 95% of the information that I have read on this website is nothing more than hot air BS.

To me a lot of the info and products that are featured on this site sounds like someone just loves to hear himself talk by writing insanely long marketing fluff.

First off, my site is receiving appox 55,000 UNIQUE Visitors per month and around 200,000 page views per month. It is not a big site and I am not claiming that it is.

In six months we are ranked in the 112,000 Quantcast and 117,000 Alexa. In other words we are slowly growing.

Since beginning to read this forum I have purchased several back linking packages. I have purchased a few article submission services. I have purchased several other packages.

Going into the 7th month of my website in operation.... I am still a Page Rank of ZERO. I have a whopping 113 backlinks.

I am using WordPress Plugins for SEO. I have a damn good site with over 6,000 pages

What's the deal???

thanks.. I actually love WF but damn, I am so frustrated

Hi Crimson Tide,

You're complaining after buying some crap WSOs. And you kept buying crap WSOs after that.

That looks like YOU FAILED in making the right buying decisions.

How do you evaluate before you buy them? You can't just get sucked in by the Sales Pitch.

FIRST of ALL, you have to check reviews, instead of impulsive buying.
And in judging reviews, there are a few things to consider.

Remember reviews come from various levels of buyers. I'm just putting a general outline:

1. Reviews by Entry Level Newbies - usually they got so excited and their reviews were like they just found the Holy Grail. The WSO is new to them. To know whether they're Entry Level Newbies, check the number of posts they made and the sort of post they wrote. Then question yourself, are their reviews reliable enough to make decisions from?

2. Reviews by Newbies in IM and but NOT NEWBIES in cyberspace - usually they ask many questions. You'll noticed the maturity in their very words. Notice if their questions get answered properly by the WSO creator? If the WSO creator cannot give good answers. Then you shouldn't buy that WSO. Again, check out their posts to see what they are like.

3. Reviews by Senior Warriors. They usually ask very short and sharp questions. Many a times they get Free Review Copies. Then they will posts them. Each one of them have their reputations to take care off because they have their own WSOs. So, they won't spurt out reviews easily, without thinking of the consequences.

From out of the 3 above, tell me which one is reliable enough to make decisions from?

Personally, I would go for No.3 most of the time. If a product is not reviewed by Senior Warriors (who have their own WSOs), I will be more stringent in my decision.

I've bought some craps too. Two of them were so bad, that I almost puke. However, I will not ask for a refund. It is a penalty to myself for making stupid decisions made on impulse. Nonetheless, it would be a pleasure giving the two WSO creators a sharp hook up their chins if I ever come across them as part of my very personalized review. ... lol....

However, I've bought many,many more WSO's that are excellent and very enriching. I enjoyed every bit. They were able to change my perceptions on things - ( very rare occurrence for an highly opinionated old person like me ).

Finally, please don't insult others for decisions you have personally made, foolishly. Happens to everyone, every now and then. Humans do that and should learn from it.

Just be more stringent in future.

[AmazeMe]

I understand EXACTLY what the original poster here has said...

... In fact he gave me lots of great pain point copy to use in my own promotion to sell my traffic secrets.

OP - thank you. I hear your frustrations. Absolute gold and no one here saw it.

[Tim45]

Think about this.. what does google want most of all, what does your site visitors want most of all and what does other site/blog owners what most of all? If you can figure this out then you will have back links, traffic and money poring in by the buckets. Don't expect it to happen over night though.. it takes years to achieve these results. Also consider that wso's are not going to make you rich, it's the little bits and pieces you learn from the wso's that will eventually earn you money.. that is if implemented properly. Think of it like this.. warrior forum + wso's = college tuition.

[sandrahewett]

This thread confused the hell out of me

[Tim45]

omg i made a mistake.. someone call the forum police! lol. point is that no one is going to make money out of the gate after buying one wso.

[myagi007]

If you're just on the warrior forum to buy cheap services then that's where you're going wrong. Take the time to build relationships, instead of alienating peoplewith posts like this, read advice, learn from those who have succeded. AND most importantly tell others how you are succeeding and share the love if you're getting that amount of traffic then what's your secret? I wouldn't mind 1700 visitors a day I could retire...