Deindexed and Sandboxed after SEnuke - What to do?

[Love2Blog]

Originally Posted by alexts

Google cannot penalize you based on amount of links that you build.
Think about it.It does not make any logical sense.It it would be true, you have a "power" to deindex any site on the internet( including your competition) by just running SENUKE campaigns on them.

I suggest not to panic waiting few days or couple of weeks. It will come back.

That's a myth and a lie that Google likes to propogate, sites get penalized manually AND automatically via some algorithm triggers all the time, the -50 penalty, the position 500 penalty, and several others have all been linked to backlink profiles.

Just go over to Webmaster World forums and read the penalty threads and you will see many suffering with various penalties, and many reporting that post penalty backlink profile analysis showed a ton of spam links that they had not built, and can only be attributed to some competitor building them, so Google saying links can't harm you is crap!

Spam links and lots of them kill sites, especially those that do not have a strong backlink profile, and software and programs like SENuke, Sick Submitter and others when used in excess can create an unnatural link profile that triggers penalties.

Building a lot of crappy links suddenly can cause a penalty, lots of spam links can cause a penalty and overall building tons of links using automated tools, especially with the exact same anchor text, like profile links and SEnuke and others like it directly to your sites can and does trigger penalties.

Any unnatural looking link profiles are dangerous and building a lot of links at once is also dangerous and especially profile links which are a total waste of time and money, they are useless.

I speak from experience and learning the hard way, when it comes to link building QUALITY over QUANTITY everytime!

ChrisWF,

Using blog auto posting plugins or software is a problem and is also against Google Webmaster AND Adsense quality TOS, you can get your Adsense account banned as well.

I suggest you take down Adsense before they come looking and only place Adsense on sites that are mostly full of unique, original and useful content, not auto generated blogs.

The Adsense should not appear to be the end goal of the site, but only a complimentary supplement, or else it's an MFA.

Your auto generated was basically a SPLOG, and that is why they removed you completely.

This was definitely a manual penalty because your site does not rank or even come up on page 2 or 3 or 4 for it's full domain, http://domain.com, that is a severe and manual penalty.

As you said, get rid of everything, add some original, comprehensive and useful to visitors articles. Make sure your theme is unique, nothing should be auto generated.

And keep adding original ones only, do not use auto generated posts, 600 words plus each is best, and then contact them again.

It's definitely worth your time to try to save your domain, as it is aged, but you will have to stay on it if they reindex you and make sure it stays clean.

By the way, don't look for those edu and gov links as per other commenter, another dangerous and useless waste of time. These days people are creating FAKE edu sites, fake schools just to sell or create backlinks, bad idea, and these types of links are not worth what they used to be anyway.

Good luck!

[dagaul101]

It's always a great idea to find out where your links are being promoted when buying or utilising services such as these to prevent this from happening

[belgianguy]

Like some have mentioned above, it is almost impossible to build to many links. Google doesn't want you to do that, but can't do anything about it. If you could get punished for this, everyone would be spamming his competitors.
Some time ago, Google officially declared buying links as a no-go. Businesses selling links tripled their revenue overnight and they are still making a lot of money.
There must be another reason for your site getting deindexed.

Last year, one of my sites got hacked and I didn't notice. Someone had added pages to my site with viagra, p*nis enlargement, ... ads. I didn't notice till my traffic dropped overnight. Google had deindexed my site because I was violating the adsense TOS.

[ChrisWF]

Today I finally cleaned up the site.
I´ve deleted the last 160 auto Posts and 10.000 comments.
Also deleted some advertising and disabled most of the SEO plugins.

Now only 48 "Original" Posts are left.

Send a Mail to Mighty G. and now have to wait another week or two.


Chris

[JamieSEO]

Originally Posted by ChrisWF

Hi
So I decided to do a little bit nuking for my site.
Nuke 1 04/13/11 Wizard Full Monty (Main Page + 2 others)
Nuke 2 04/15/11 Wizard More Powerful Simple Pyramid (Main Page + 2 others)
Nuke 3 04/16/11 Wizard More Powerful Simple Pyramid (Main Page + 2 others)
Nuke 4 04/25/11 Wizard Full Monty (Main Page + 2 others)

How can I use SEnuke X in a more safe way?

With that many links in such an insanely short period of time I am not surprised.

It has nothing to do with the promotion software, if you created the same number of backlinks in that short time frame manually you would have gotten the same result.

The higher the number of links created, the longer the time you need to spread the submission over.

With SENukeX you can set up campaigns to run over time. Instead of just blasting the internet with a huge number of backlinks quickly, set your campaign to run over 14 or 30 days.

[Apollo-Articles]

800 UV a day and only $200 a month? You should first work on getting more people to click!

Google often sandboxes you if you have a huge amount of identical anchor links pointing to the same site.

Try doing more links only this time instead of your anchor text just put your sites URL or the word "Here" and "this site" (linked to your site) once the ratio has been tipped slightly you might just find your back in the running.

Good-luck,

Sam

[arnold55]

I am in the same position. My best performing site that was earning $120 plus dollars a day and had 6 pages indexed in google lost all of the indexing. It had been receiving around a 1000 visits a day and dropped to an average of maybe 2 visits a day.

I tried everything from crawling the site using the google webmaster tools to resubmitting. It has been since May and still nothing. You can type in the url in a google search and the site will come up, but when you use your SQ or SEO tools it shows no indexed pages in google.

But....since that time the same site is increasingly doing better in yahoo and bing!

I have no choice but to wait it out.

Good Luck!

arnold55

[frogman]

Originally Posted by ChrisWF

Today I finally cleaned up the site.
I´ve deleted the last 160 auto Posts and 10.000 comments.
Also deleted some advertising and disabled most of the SEO plugins.

Now only 48 "Original" Posts are left.

Send a Mail to Mighty G. and now have to wait another week or two.


Chris

Auto posting (a big on-site no-no) can kill a site pretty quick after a manual review.

[InsiderSeoServices]

That certainly hurts, but try not to worry too much. It can take anywhere for 2 weeks to 3 months to get out of the box. Advice is to keep creating backlinks with the program. Be consistent. When your site bounced back, it'll most likely be page 1 position 9 or greater. Just keep doing what you've been doing. If you do full monties, keep doing them one a week for 3 weeks, then switch it up with another diagram for another 3 weeks. BE CONSISTENT and keep bulding a diversity of links. Hope this helps.

[RayW]

Originally Posted by arnold55

I am in the same position. My best performing site that was earning $120 plus dollars a day and had 6 pages indexed in google lost all of the indexing. It had been receiving around a 1000 visits a day and dropped to an average of maybe 2 visits a day.

I tried everything from crawling the site using the google webmaster tools to resubmitting. It has been since May and still nothing. You can type in the url in a google search and the site will come up, but when you use your SQ or SEO tools it shows no indexed pages in google.

But....since that time the same site is increasingly doing better in yahoo and bing!

I have no choice but to wait it out.

Good Luck!

arnold55

What did you do that made your site's traffic decrease that much?

[ChrisWF]

Originally Posted by arnold55

I am in the same position. My best performing site that was earning $120 plus dollars a day and had 6 pages indexed in google lost all of the indexing. It had been receiving around a 1000 visits a day and dropped to an average of maybe 2 visits a day.

I tried everything from crawling the site using the google webmaster tools to resubmitting. It has been since May and still nothing. You can type in the url in a google search and the site will come up, but when you use your SQ or SEO tools it shows no indexed pages in google.

But....since that time the same site is increasingly doing better in yahoo and bing!

I have no choice but to wait it out.

Good Luck!

arnold55

Sad to hear that.

When you type into google:
site:www.yoursite.com

it should show you your 6 pages.
If it does, your site is "only" in the sandbox and will come back. Simply do more backlinks on a steady and daily basis. Don´t overnuke something like I have done.

If none of your pages will be displayed with that search, than you are deindexed.
That is what happend to me.

The reason is not SEnukeX directly.
It´s SEnukeX in-directly. SEnukeX drove lot´s of visitors to my site. The traffic has gone up from 100 uniques a day to 800 uniques a day in a few days.
That caught the attention of one Google Guy and they manually visited my site.

The Google-God-Guy found:

• A few hundred auto generated pages mixed in between 48 Original content pages.
• 10.000 auto generated comments to these pages
• A few of these Auto-Pages had links to a Site that was a suspect of distributing Malware. That´s really funny. You get a big red Warning Sign if you attempt to visit such a site. And my page was linking to these stinkers
• The site was overloaded with Clickbank Links
• The site was overloaded with Adsense advertising
• The site has a popup that wants people to sign up to a newsletter
• The site has a few Amazon affiliate links as well
• The Wordpress- Theme had a few errors
• The site was slowly loading (hundreds of plugins…)
• maybe something more I couldn´t think of in this moment

In this case too much of a good thing wasn´t beautiful.
BANG
The Google-Guy kicked me out of the index.

Now I´ve been waiting for the next manual inspection.

Chris

[jordyhill]

Hey Chris,

Sorry to hear about the troubles you've been having lately. I had a site deindexed for about 4 weeks earlier this year. I-framing software I was using was to blame. After removing it and reverting back to my Wordpress blog, I was back in business within days. But after reading this thread I now know it was because real web surfers were seeing something different to what the Google Bot was reading.

That will teach me for trying to be clever :-)

This thread has been of real value, I'm sure a lot of webmasters reading this have learned a thing or 2, I certainly have. I'm just sorry it was to the cost of your site.

I do hope things get back on track soon for you!

Thank you and all the best

Jordy

[JawadAshraf]

Never blast too many links directly to your site otherwise your site will be de-indexed or sand-boxed liked this. There is a proper secret way to get benefit of these blasts which you need to learn or have to figure it out yourself.

[arnold55]

I did not do anything! Just one day "BAM"...scary

arnold55

[arnold55]

Yep....I can type in the url in a google search and all of the pages are there.It has been three months (about) since I entered the sand box. When and if I ever get out of the sand box I will let everyone know how long and what I did.

arnold55

[ChrisWF]

Just got a reply from the Google Team.
My sites stays de-indexed
As usual no hint what´s wrong with my site that is against their TOS.

In the next step I now will disable all posts but only 5 (as hinted by Enzo).
Will also disable all Adsense and all clickbank links.

Hopefully I get this done until the weekend.

Christoph

[renegadetmj]

HI Chris, it sounds like Im in the same position as you. on of my sites fell out of the index about 6 weeks ago and shows no sign of coming back. My issue was that i manually blitzed the site with backlinks but only used my keyword phrase as anchor rather than mixing it up. I'm currently using BMR to create some high PR links and Im using all sorts of related anchors but nothing similar to my keyword phrase. I've heard that this can help brings things back into balance and solve the sandbox isue. Time will tell I guess - I let you know if the site ever resurfaces...

[bobmcalister]

I am experimenting in FF with the reload plug in on a site that I can lose. seeing if the site has a ton of traffic all of a sudden what happens. anyone know about this ? thanks

[bobmcalister]

Originally Posted by JawadAshraf

Never blast too many links directly to your site otherwise your site will be de-indexed or sand-boxed liked this. There is a proper secret way to get benefit of these blasts which you need to learn or have to figure it out yourself.

so, why not share that information with us? I am old and cranky, and when I read something like...I KNOW THE ANSWER BUT NOT GOING TO TELL YOU , I feel another WSo coming on...jeeeZ