My New AutoBlog Idea

[guitarjosh]

So this comes on the heels of seeing my neighbor still bummed about seeing over 200 of his sites deindexed last week and going from over $4000 a month to just over $5 total in the last week (Bing and Yahoo apparently don't get used too much).

So I was considering that I needed to consider creating a real site with real content and working it... but then it occurred to me that I'd have to actually "work" and I'm really not a fan of that.

So... my thought is, what if I took the same approach with autoblogs, but going forward, just used clickbank/amazon/etc... and ditched adsense and analytics altogether? This way.. if Google finds one of my sites, they can't tie them in with any others. If Google finds a site and kills it.. big deal. I just keep building a site a night and keep an ongoing catalog of indexed sites in the big 'G'. I want thoughts on that. Is the only way Google going to be able to know all the sites I have is through AdSense and Analytics? I can't really think of another way.

In just over 6 months of autoblogging, I'm up to about 60 sites and over 100,000 unique visits. It seems that with traffic like that, I should be able to keep cashing in... even if the payoff isn't as high. And if Google finds a site and kills it with this method.. big deal.

Now I don't care about your "I hate autobloggers" opinions... though I'm sure many of you will gladly share your opinions anyway. This is for those that support the genius-ness that autoblogging is. Lemme know what you think of this idea. Anything that might trip me up in doing things this way?

[Rsberg]

Josh,

You can certainly use other types of monetization on your autoblogs. You already have a decent amount of traffic to test different approaches against. I have never been a big fan of Adsense (partly because I haven’t had that much experience with it…my own fault) and have always looked for other methods to monetize my autoblogs. There are so many different affiliate networks out there that offer an abundance of products to add to your sites…most of which pay fairly decent commissions.

As for using analytics….I don’t like it but others will say they do…this is totally up to you and what you feel comfortable with and like personally.

I use mostly Amazon, CB etc etc on my autoblogs and although I wish my conversions were a bit higher (then again who doesn’t) I would say I’m pretty happy overall with the way I have them setup and how they perform.

The latest algo change didn’t really affect my sites…if anything I got a little boost in the SERPs and therefore a bit more traffic which has led to an increase in sales so I wouldn’t worry about not being able to make money with using other (non Adsense) forms of monetization.

If you present quality information on your blogs that offers value to the reader and mix in some related products that can help solve a problem, answer a question or fill a need (which is what most IMers strive for) then you will make some sales. Now you’re making money by displaying ads that relate to your blogs topic and people click those ads to go find other info, service, products…etc…when you change over to offering the products themselves (either physical as in Amazon or digital as in CB) then you are still offering the reader related info/products you’re just going about it in a different way. If the offers/products you put on your site are good quality and related to the niche you should do just fine.

Best of luck!
Robert

[eugie17]

Good choice ditching them, now I use Piwiki instead of analytics and CPA instead of adsense, they are simply better and safer, especially when google wants to track what you're doing

[serena85]

My opinion is that someway or somehow they will get to your website, be careful not to make any BIG mistake, like leaving the same mail address, try changing your IP every 5 6 hours and least but not less dont let anybody know what your doing there are traitors you know....

[macsilber]

what auto blog platform do you use?

[paulgl]

Google is not de-indexing autoblogs just on an autoblog basis.
So anyone who says they got banned for "autoblogging" is
just not being honest.

It takes something to get de-indexed. Something bad.

Why would someone take the attitude of just creating more
and more sites as each one gets de-indexed?

That's insane. It's attitudes like that which cause people to
do things to get de-indexed. But it's not because of autoblogging.

Paul

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by paulgl

Google is not de-indexing autoblogs just on an autoblog basis.
So anyone who says they got banned for "autoblogging" is
just not being honest.

It takes something to get de-indexed. Something bad.

Why would someone take the attitude of just creating more
and more sites as each one gets de-indexed?

That's insane. It's attitudes like that which cause people to
do things to get de-indexed. But it's not because of autoblogging.

Paul

Paul,
You're absolutely wrong. My neighbor has some of the nicest autoblogs I've ever seen. He had everyone in Analytics.. and I practically live over at his house and I check his site stats as much as mine. He had them looking flawless.. and not the typical spammy autoblogs that I see so many of. He called me up and said every site was deindexed. I ran over.. we started going over everything... looking at every possible angle. All he had was a new message in webmaster tools (as a red bar across the top of his page) that said his sites may not be indexed as a result of not meeting Google's TOS.. with a 'click here' to resubmit after fixing any problems.

Head over to WebMaster Tools forum right now or just google 'site deindexed' and click on the webmaster tools forum. It's happening to dozens everyday right now.

Don't pretend to know that you know what Google is doing behind the scenes. This guy was overly anal about everything on his sites and it happened. It doesn't take anything "bad" and doesn't mean someone is not being "honest". That's your naive approach and it shows ignorance. That's not meant to be insulting.. just saying that you don't have the knowledge necessary to make an accurate statement about this.

Furthermore, Google released a statement this year flat out stating they would be de-indexing sites that don't bring value... and basically singling out autoblogs.

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by Rsberg

Josh,

You can certainly use other types of monetization on your autoblogs. You already have a decent amount of traffic to test different approaches against. I have never been a big fan of Adsense (partly because I haven’t had that much experience with it…my own fault) and have always looked for other methods to monetize my autoblogs. There are so many different affiliate networks out there that offer an abundance of products to add to your sites…most of which pay fairly decent commissions.

As for using analytics….I don’t like it but others will say they do…this is totally up to you and what you feel comfortable with and like personally.

I use mostly Amazon, CB etc etc on my autoblogs and although I wish my conversions were a bit higher (then again who doesn’t) I would say I’m pretty happy overall with the way I have them setup and how they perform.

The latest algo change didn’t really affect my sites…if anything I got a little boost in the SERPs and therefore a bit more traffic which has led to an increase in sales so I wouldn’t worry about not being able to make money with using other (non Adsense) forms of monetization.

If you present quality information on your blogs that offers value to the reader and mix in some related products that can help solve a problem, answer a question or fill a need (which is what most IMers strive for) then you will make some sales. Now you’re making money by displaying ads that relate to your blogs topic and people click those ads to go find other info, service, products…etc…when you change over to offering the products themselves (either physical as in Amazon or digital as in CB) then you are still offering the reader related info/products you’re just going about it in a different way. If the offers/products you put on your site are good quality and related to the niche you should do just fine.

Best of luck!
Robert

Thanks, Robert! Really good news to hear. I'm going to start heading down that road with the new blogs I have. Some really good information there.

I'm still not hearing much here on my other question.. which is how Google knew to deindex all of my friends sites.. I'm still very curious if that was because he had them all in Google Analytics or if if they track AdSense on being on all of them. In any case, we'll know the answer soon enough. He's putting up another 10 blogs this weekend and we'll see what happens!

Thanks again!

[yukon]

Did he link all the sites to each other?

Going from $4k to $5 is a he$$ of a loss, at least he already knows 100% what brings in the money. I would look into new traffic sources for the old sites, even If I had to spend a few bucks for advertising (niche forums etc...).

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by yukon

Did he link all the sites to each other?

Going from $4k to $5 is a he$$ of a loss, at least he already knows 100% what brings in the money. I would look into new traffic sources for the old sites, even If I had to spend a few bucks for advertising (niche forums etc...).

Well the $5 was for 1 week so he may get up to $20 or more this next month. :P But yes.. knowing how to get that traffic is a great asset. I do agree. And luckily.. he ain't hurtin. He's got a great job and that was just all extra income. But still, he was pretty bummed for a while. Now he's over it and he's on to rebuilding the empire in a bit more strategic manner. It's just all opened my eyes to a lot of things and have me rethinking much of my own strategies.

No links to each other. I've seen a few blogs like that.... have always thought that was pretty crazy.

[Steve Crooks]

You say you are not that keen on work Josh but surely having to constantly look over your shoulder and fear for any site you create is harder.

How about going down the valuable content route and start investing your autoblog earnings into outsourcing the content creation..?

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

You say you are not that keen on work Josh but surely having to constantly look over your shoulder and fear for any site you create is harder.

How about going down the valuable content route and start investing your autoblog earnings into outsourcing the content creation..?

Nah.. I'm all about earning money online without investing.

I'm just mentioning my new theory of putting out a new site every other day (which takes me maybe 10 minutes total) and if some go bye bye .. big deal. If it works, it would be quite awesome.

And in the end, if everything is to all blow up... ah well. It's been a fun ride and I've learned a lot. It's just extra play money anyway.

[Pinkysoll]

Maybe having all his sites on Analytics didn't help. Made it easy for google to deindex.

[FrankLinks]

I really suspect the Google Analytics spied on us,I have a autoblog get google -60 penalty yesterday,before the penalty lots of the long tail keywords get rank #1,now their ranking can't exceed #40,my site's traffic will be 20-40 unique visitors today although it was 400-500 unique vistors before,the strange thing is the site's traffic get huge jump to 1000 unique 4-5 days before,but I don't do anything to it,then yesterday I get a google slap,I suspect google spied on my site,it noticed the big change of the traffic then google think I manipulated the rank and some one come to my site to have a manual review then submit a manual penalty..

I really do nothing on my site these day,why google found my site and penalized me,I think it's all because I used Google Analytics.I will delete all my other site's analytics account and try to find some other analytics service.

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

Thanks, Robert! Really good news to hear. I'm going to start heading down that road with the new blogs I have. Some really good information there.

Quite welcome! I think once you've given it a chance you will find that you can do fairly decent with affiliate offers, especially if they are good products that fit your niches well.

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

I'm still not hearing much here on my other question.. which is how Google knew to deindex all of my friends sites.. I'm still very curious if that was because he had them all in Google Analytics or if if they track AdSense on being on all of them.

I'm more inclined to believe it's the use of Google Analytics than them tracking Adsense although I wouldn't discount that either. Regardless of your opinion of Google, their intentions, their rules...etc, I personally don't think it’s a good idea to "invite" them into your business and basically ask them to track your sites, their traffic…etc. There are other options that can provide that information without asking the all powerful Google under the hood.

BTW…don’t get discouraged, use this as a learning point. You can still offer “valuable content” by building quality autoblogs, I haven’t looked over my shoulder in fear of anything in a very long time…

[mooble]

I guess the big question here is how google really tracks sites. Analytics seems completely believable, but then again so does adsense. But can they go further? what if they are able to track your sites by the tracking id's used in your amazon widgets and links? What about the hosting company you're using? What other ways does google have of finding all your sites?

[Steve Crooks]

Guys.. Stop with the paranoia! The only time that Google's tools (analytics) becomes a problem for the web publisher is if they have something to hide. If you have nothing to fear then why worry?

Ask yourself, if an auto generated site is not using analytics or webmaster tools and it is ranking in Google for a few keywords, won't that equally raise a few flags with Google?

Also, tools out of your control like Google chrome, Google toolbar and others are all collecting data for Google to use as they will.

[linkwhizz]

Google can link together your sites based on the whois info also. So you should make all domain name private when registering.

They should also be hosted on seperate class c ips where possible. Do not use google analytics, use woopra instead and its in real time.

do not use adsense obviously and do not register in webmasters.

If you use any kind of scraped content with making it unique you will not rank well. you need to have a privacy policy, disclaimer and contact page to be seen as trustworthy. dont link out to any crappy spam sites, in fact do link out to an authority site. Get your on-site SEO right and you should rank well.

To be honest it is a better use of time to try and get a handful of semi-authority sites ranking well. Instead of building a site a night, write an article or just outsource it.

Cheers
Linkwhizz

[Steve Crooks]

Originally Posted by linkwhizz

Google can link together your sites based on the whois info also. So you should make all domain name private when registering.

They should also be hosted on seperate class c ips where possible. Do not use google analytics, use woopra instead and its in real time.

do not use adsense obviously and do not register in webmasters.

If you use any kind of scraped content with making it unique you will not rank well. you need to have a privacy policy, disclaimer and contact page to be seen as trustworthy. dont link out to any crappy spam sites, in fact do link out to an authority site. Get your on-site SEO right and you should rank well.

To be honest it is a better use of time to try and get a handful of semi-authority sites ranking well. Instead of building a site a night, write an article or just outsource it.

Cheers
Linkwhizz

Linkwhizz, your post just confirmed what I meant by paranoia.. To me, it is a lot harder work trying to build sites in stealth mode like this. Trying to avoid all the usual ways for Google to track things but also hoping they rank your pages highly.. It really is ridiculous!

[guitarjosh]

Some of you guys just don't get how autoblogs work. You can make great money on sites that have 0 unique content and all scraped. I have one that's up to over 1200 visits a day right now.. with 0 backlinks and it's completely scraped. I've never spun in my life. It's a waste of time. Autoblogs are built on long tail keywords. They don't have to be ranked at all.. ever.

And I very seriously doubt that Google cross references whois information to find a list of domains. Why would whois just offer to turn that information over to Google? They're a business just like any other. Outside of that, I can put a different name in for every site I register for the "registered name" as opposed to the billing name.. and Google knows that. That would be a huge waste of time.

And Steve.. yes, flags may get raised by ranking good, but the idea is to not tie your sites together and make it easy for Google to ever be able to de-index everything at once. It's just not smart to let Google have a bird's eye view of what you're doing.. and this doesn't stop with auto-blogging. I've seen too many stories of legit site owners getting deindexed or otherwise destroyed by Google. Why make it any easier than it has to be for them?

If your main source of income is AdSense, you'd be wise to let paranoia at least guide you far enough to make it as difficult as possible to stop your income stream.

It's kind of like my house at night. I lock the door.. and always slide that deadbolt, just in case...

[joanagoldman]

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

Well the $5 was for 1 week so he may get up to $20 or more this next month. :P But yes.. knowing how to get that traffic is a great asset. I do agree. And luckily.. he ain't hurtin. He's got a great job and that was just all extra income. But still, he was pretty bummed for a while. Now he's over it and he's on to rebuilding the empire in a bit more strategic manner. It's just all opened my eyes to a lot of things and have me rethinking much of my own strategies.

No links to each other. I've seen a few blogs like that.... have always thought that was pretty crazy.

what is he doing now different in order to be ok for Google?

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by joanagoldman

what is he doing now different in order to be ok for Google?

He's not okay w/ Google. The only money he's getting now is from yahoo/bing traffic. We're still tinkering and experimenting though... using it as an opportunity.

[misterkailo]

Autoblog has died since Panda update came out...

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Guys.. Stop with the paranoia! The only time that Google's tools (analytics) becomes a problem for the web publisher is if they have something to hide. If you have nothing to fear then why worry?

I wouldn’t say it has anything to do with paranoia at all, I would say its preventative maintenance. I don’t fear Google because I feel as though I build quality sites and apparently my visitors feel the same way by the emails, traffic and sales I get but that doesn’t mean I want to invite Google to look under the hood either. I simply don't trust Google! If you want to call that paranoia then go ahead but as previously mentioned, there have been plenty of unique content only sites get hammered by Google for what seems to be no reason. I have talked to a few people about this who had a couple of their sites deindexed by Google and the only thing they seemed to have in common was Google Analytics...by the way, one of them also had autoblogs that weren’t touched...no Analytics on those sites.

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Ask yourself, if an auto generated site is not using analytics or webmaster tools and it is ranking in Google for a few keywords, won't that equally raise a few flags with Google?

Having sites rank high that have auto generated content on them might raise flags...might not, I'm not sure that raises any more flags than any other site being ranked well. The point here is that if there are other tools available that can provide you with the info then why give Google even more access (and in some cases more control because of that access) over your sites to begin with? I actually used to use Google Anlytics (without any problems) but decided not long ago to make some changes to my sites, that was one of them.

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Also, tools out of your control like Google chrome, Google toolbar and others are all collecting data for Google to use as they will.

True, you cant do anything about these tools but once again...why invite them to know more about your site...any site, not just autoblogs. I get plenty of their traffic without having to invite them futher into my business.

[Steve Crooks]

Originally Posted by Rsberg

...why invite them to know more about your site...any site, not just autoblogs. I get plenty of their traffic without having to invite them futher into my business.

It is all about perception of Google at the end of the day I guess. For me, this is just one of those urban myths that gets bandied around because it helps people come to terms with a deindexing at the hands of the evil Google god.

I am not saying Google are perfect and the way they handle their customers (you and me) sometimes is just plain rude and arrogant. However, they hold the cards and you can either choose to cheat and hope to win against them or just play their game and stand a far better chance of winning.

For every person you can show me that have had bad experiences with Google related tools and deindexing, there are thousands who have no problems. I would wager that the deindexing is down to other reasons and not as the result of using analytics or webmaster tools. You break their guidelines then your site will suffer. You do things the way they like, your site will be alright.

These tools are fantastic as well for the web publisher and can give amazing insight into the performance of your site and what and where you need to improve. Where else can you actually see Google backlinks to your site's pages than webmaster tools? Nowhere.. Not to mention the incredible search queries feature in webmaster tools. Where else can you see the ACTUAL number of times your web page(s) impressions to click through ratios? This info is priceless to a web publisher.. If I see a webpage is getting thousands of impressions on Google searches but hardly anyone is actually clicking on my listing then I want to know why. This info alone is priceless! Couple this up with analytics and you cannot fail!

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

I am not saying Google are perfect and the way they handle their customers (you and me) sometimes is just plain rude and arrogant. However, they hold the cards and you can either choose to cheat and hope to win against them or just play their game and stand a far better chance of winning.

No one is talking about "cheating" (I certianly don't feel as though anything I do would fit that category), I'm simply saying that I personally don't want them that deep into my personal business.

I will agree that they do hold the cards (to some extent) but you can still play the game without showing them yours

As far as winning is concerned...I feel I do pretty well considering everytime I look at my bank deposits I know that they are primarily made as a direct result of the free Google traffic my sites get

In the end, the things we are talking about in this thread come down to personal choice. I dont personally want to invite Google into my business, others obviously feel different and thats fine for them...thats the beauty of not only having choices but the ability to make them ourselves.

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

We're still tinkering and experimenting though... using it as an opportunity.

Out of curiosity josh...

Does your friend have any unique content on his autoblogs at all?

[Steve Crooks]

Originally Posted by Rsberg

In the end, the things we are talking about in this thread come down to personal choice. I dont personally want to invite Google into my business, others obviously feel different and thats fine for them...thats the beauty of not only having choices but the ability to make them ourselves.

I couldn't agree more, we make our own choices and live by our own experiences. I just wanted to dispel the myth though that using Google's tools will somehow help them to ruin you and your sites. It couldn't be further from the truth in my experience. The info gleaned from them is incredibly useful to me and probably Google as well.

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by misterkailo

Autoblog has died since Panda update came out...

You couldn't be more wrong. Since the alleged Panda update, my visitors have almost doubled and my adsense went from just over $1000 the prior month to over $1300 this last month.

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

I couldn't agree more, we make our own choices and live by our own experiences. I just wanted to dispel the myth though that using Google's tools will somehow help them to ruin you and your sites. It couldn't be further from the truth in my experience. The info gleaned from them is incredibly useful to me and probably Google as well.

It's not a myth. You're missing the point in that it has the "potential" to do just that. Rather that happens for 1 in 100 or 1 in 10,000, if it has the potential, it's not a myth. It's a fact.
And yes.. it is very useful to Google! As for the web owner, there are a lot better sites than Analytics if you want more information.

RSBerg.. no original or unique content on his sites, but.. we think we might know what might have done it. He used the same template for everything. When I first got in to autoblogging, I used it for my first 4 sites.. it was the xfactor template. And then.. I built my own template which looked different in every way and much nicer. Well guess what.. my first 4 sites are deindexed too! Apparently, they got axed sometime last week as well. It was seemingly the template, if you can believe that! I had all my sites in analytics (no more though) and only those 4 got the ax. Luckily, none of those 4 were doing any good though so hooray!

[Steve Crooks]

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

It's not a myth. You're missing the point in that it has the "potential" to do just that. Rather that happens for 1 in 100 or 1 in 10,000, if it has the potential, it's not a myth. It's a fact.
And yes.. it is very useful to Google! As for the web owner, there are a lot better sites than Analytics if you want more information.

Unless I see proof, It is a myth Josh.. and I don't just mean the usual conspiracy theories that get bandied around either. The only potential problem that might occur is if you don't play by the rules Google want you to play by. Who wants to be looking over their shoulder all the time.. Not me! Do things right and you will be rewarded!

I am not saying that there are not other tools out there that are also great for analytics but where else can you get actual Google backlinks, real Google SERP impressions to clickthrough ratio. Make changes to how you target your site plus much more that is ONLY possible with webmaster tools.

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

RSBerg.. no original or unique content on his sites, but.. we think we might know what might have done it. He used the same template for everything. When I first got in to autoblogging, I used it for my first 4 sites.. it was the xfactor template. And then.. I built my own template which looked different in every way and much nicer. Well guess what.. my first 4 sites are deindexed too! Apparently, they got axed sometime last week as well. It was seemingly the template, if you can believe that! I had all my sites in analytics (no more though) and only those 4 got the ax. Luckily, none of those 4 were doing any good though so hooray!

If all of his sites had the same template and basic formatting (and I'm assuming they also had Google Anlytics on them) then it would have only taken one site to have a "problem" or not be within the "rules" that Google likes to impose for them to easily track down the rest. Regardless of how it's viewed or personal opinion, there are far to many reports from autobloggers who have lost a lot of sites (de-indexed) over the years that almost always point to some kind of trackable similarity across all of their sites. I'm not saying that you cant have similar sites (many of mine share some similarities) but when it is blatantly obvious (such as theme, template...etc) it makes it almost too easy. Just like your situation above...4 sites made on the same platform (xfactor) and all 4 had analytics on them. If one of them caught Googles attention for some reason (or someone reported one...etc) then tracking down the other 3 woulod be childs play for them. IMO you might have gotten very lucky your other sites were traced as well...but thats jut my opinon.

As for your buddy...

If he is going to spend some time trying to recoup those sites (and I know its a lot of work) then I would advise he mix in some unique content to the posts on his sites. It may be very time consuming to go back and do that (especially over a lot of posts and sites) but it could revive them too...just a suggestion.

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

The only potential problem that might occur is if you don't play by the rules Google want you to play by.

As much as I hate to do it I do agree with you on this...

It's not that I hate agreeing with you personally, what I hate is the fact that they (Google) seem to be able to set the rules (to some extent) without seemingly taking in all the facts. What I mean by this is that I have several autoblogs (many actually) and I regularly get emails from readers as well as authors thanking me for the info on my site that helped them or the fact that they got some traffic from a link that was in their article that was on my site. Now I realize that this isn’t the case for all autoblogs and I am not saying I get hundreds of emails a day but I do get them. The point is that there are more than just a few people who feel my autoblogs are valuable and present quality information...so IMO where does Google get off making decisions for all based on the actions of others. Now I'm sure that last comment will bring about an onslaught of rebuttal but think about it for a minute, just because one person or even a group of people do something that doesn’t mean that everyone does the same thing, yet Google treats it as so...especially where it concerns autoblogs. Then again, maybe that’s why I haven't had issues...I don't build typical autoblogs.

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Who wants to be looking over their shoulder all the time.. Not me! Do things right and you will be rewarded!

I feel rewarded regularly...I guess that must mean I am doing things right.

[simonbuzz]

Autoblogs doesn't work anymore...so don't waste your time on this...you better build a single blog with unique content...

[yukon]

Lol, I'm autoblogging one of my old sites content on a 2nd new site.

As always don't follow the herd (footprint) & no big deal, just another day...

Originally Posted by misterkailo

Autoblog has died since Panda update came out...

Originally Posted by simonbuzz

Autoblogs doesn't work anymore...so don't waste your time on this...you better build a single blog with unique content...

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by yukon

Lol, I'm autoblogging one of my old sites content on a 2nd new site.

As always don't follow the herd (footprint) & no big deal, just another day...

bingo. just gotta' have half a brain. it ain't rocket science.

And Steve.. as usual.. you make me laugh.

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by simonbuzz

Autoblogs doesn't work anymore...so don't waste your time on this...you better build a single blog with unique content...

I guess I should shut down all my autoblogs immediately and start building unique content only sites....

Seriously...LOL

I know you probably mean well simon but your way off base here. If you were actually up to speed on this thread and autoblogging in general you would know that many autobloggers have seen increased traffic and sales after the recent Google update that’s got everyone so scared.

If you had made your statement following "IMO" then I wouldn’t have said anything and ignored your post but so many people make posts like yours when they really don’t know what they are talking about...this influences others who don’t know and next thing you know everyone is afraid of doing something or trying new approaches simply because bad information was passed on through posts like yours.

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by Rsberg

I guess I should shut down all my autoblogs immediately and start building unique content only sites....

Seriously...LOL

I know you probably mean well simon but your way off base here. If you were actually up to speed on this thread and autoblogging in general you would know that many autobloggers have seen increased traffic and sales after the recent Google update that’s got everyone so scared.

If you had made your statement following "IMO" then I wouldn’t have said anything and ignored your post but so many people make posts like yours when they really don’t know what they are talking about...this influences others who don’t know and next thing you know everyone is afraid of doing something or trying new approaches simply because bad information was passed on through posts like yours.

So very very true... I have to laugh every time I read a Simon comment.. of which they are never ending.

[bitriot]

Not for nothing, but I have worked for a number of fortune 100 companies who have moved away from google analytics to Omniture analytic solutions. Their perspective is that they do not want google knowing their site traffic and keywords as they bid for keywords on adsense. They felt like google knowing their traffic and keywords would allow them to inflate the bids they needed to put forth in CPC. Might be a bit paranoid, but if a conservative company like say... proctor & gamble feels that way, it is not so far fetched for anyone else to feel that way.

[Steve Crooks]

So Google would rather work out how much they bid on keywords via some dodgy spywork on their Analytics account than by just peeking inside their big "bloated budget" Adwords accounts? Come on, this is just silly now..

Originally Posted by bitriot

Not for nothing, but I have worked for a number of fortune 100 companies who have moved away from google analytics to Omniture analytic solutions. Their perspective is that they do not want google knowing their site traffic and keywords as they bid for keywords on adsense. They felt like google knowing their traffic and keywords would allow them to inflate the bids they needed to put forth in CPC. Might be a bit paranoid, but if a conservative company like say... proctor & gamble feels that way, it is not so far fetched for anyone else to feel that way.

[bitriot]

Dunno what to tell you. This was my experience working at one of the largest internet marketing firms in the world. With the recent revelations about what google thinks about YOUR privacy, is it so absurd to want them out of your information? As a multi billion dollar company? I don't think so...

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

So Google would rather work out how much they bid on keywords via some dodgy spywork on their Analytics account than by just peeking inside their big "bloated budget" Adwords accounts? Come on, this is just silly now..

[gnd5969]

Wow, interesting thread.

I like to give my experience with google when it comes to de-indexing sites.

Around the beginning of 2009 all my sites (not autoblogs) that were listed in Webmaster Tools were de-indexed.

The exact kind of sites that were not in Webmaster Tools are still listed today.

Webmaster Tools is where you have google people manually checking on sites and with a click of a button, all can be de-indexed.

After not using Webmaster Tools and analytics, I haven't had any problems with my sites, even autoblogs.

[sojibrahman]

what pleat from are use you for auto blog?

[George Katsoudas]

Both authority blogging and autoblogging can work for different reasons.

Whatever you choose, make sure you have fun doing it - cuz life is too short.

You may create original content that others aren't interested in. Big deal. You learn from the experience and move on.

Maybe one of your sites loses its rankings. Again, big deal - you keep producing.

"You win a few, you lose a few - but you keep on fighting"

- Gordon Gekko (Wall Street - 1987)

[Steve Crooks]

Originally Posted by aprilhomer

What is auto blog? Is it like an auto submitter?

It is basically a made up marketing term that describes the process of using automated software tools to post content to a blog.

[guewarascoy]

is it still good idea to make autoblog in panda update ??

[GlobalMedia]

Originally Posted by guewarascoy

is it still good idea to make autoblog in panda update ??

Few of my friends have used it for autobloging and till now they have received desired result. It is worthy enough for a try.

[Steve Crooks]

Originally Posted by guewarascoy

is it still good idea to make autoblog in panda update ??

It depends what you do.. If you just scrape copyrighted content with gay abandon and make no attempt to provide value to the reader then no, it is not a good idea. If you can provide value to the reader and go with the Google flow, then yes!

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by aprilhomer

So if I use that software, can I assure that there will be no duplicate content?

This can be answered a few different ways, but to be sure you fully understand then I think a quick explanation is called for...

Duplicate content actually refers to the same piece of content being posted on the same site more than once. More often than not this is misunderstood and many people often confuse syndication (where it pertains to autoblogging) with duplicate content. Syndication is where a piece of content (an article for example) is posted on several sites across the internet after it is picked up from either the original authors site (hopefully with permission) or form an article directory (in accordance with that directories TOS).

This is part of why I say the answer to your question can be answered a few different ways...depending on interpretation of the phrase.

If the autoblogging software you use has the ability to ensure a single piece of content isn’t duplicated (or posted) on the same site more than once then yes you could ensure there would be no "duplicate content"...by the actual definition.

If however you are referring to what many people often confuse duplicate content with (syndication) then most likely not. Most autoblogging software is designed to fetch content from sources that allow for syndication, thus you would be reposting (or syndicating) an article (for example) that has probably been posted on several other sites already or has at very least been posted somewhere on the net once before.

[dagaul101]

Google is getting much more vigilant, and in time might be able to find all those sites, meaning you would have to work that much harder each time

[piggetslaughter]

my autoblog stiil get ranked on google, so keep up your work mate!