Quick seo question

snubi · 05-05-2011, 08:54 AM

I have a quick seo question. Lets say i wanted to make a liver disease niche site:

Is:
www. liverdiseaseinfo .com or www. aboutliverdisease .com
As good as:
www. liverdisease .com

"Liver disease" being the keyword i wanted to rank for

or would i be totally gimped from the start against www. liverdisease .com

Just an example not my actual niche

snubi · 05-05-2011, 09:53 AM

Bump....

anyone?

NastyBlast · 05-05-2011, 10:06 AM

don't stress about it. Keywords in the domain are not that critical but in your case it does seem like you are highly focused on particular key words according to your example.

Reduce it to a domain that is easy to remember and type and just try to keep your keywords in it or subsequent URLs that can cover the keywords also. The only time I would say to really stress a domain name is when it is a feeder domain meaning that it is specifically designed to rank for specific keyword set that drives traffic to a main site.

All too often do I see people stressing over keywords in the domain names... it's just not that important anymore. Pick yourself a domain... And then get to the rest of your campaign because that's where the Battlefield lies.

simpleonline1234 · 05-05-2011, 10:15 AM

Well obviously the EMD (exact match domain) is going to hold more weight but it doesn't really matter as far as the total picture goes.

Having an EMD is a great boost in the rankings but doesn't mean your doomed if you don't have an EMD.

Me personally I will try to get the .com first and if it is not available then I will try the .net and finally the .info.

If all of those are gone I will go back to the .com and enter some additional words at the "END" of the keywords and try the .com , then .net, and .info again.

having your keywords as close to the www. is going to help.

But in the end the links and content are going to make you or break you.

pdrs · 05-05-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NastyBlast

don't stress about it. Keywords in the domain are not that critical but in your case it does seem like you are highly focused on particular key words according to your example.

Reduce it to a domain that is easy to remember and type and just try to keep your keywords in it or subsequent URLs that can cover the keywords also. The only time I would say to really stress a domain name is when it is a feeder domain meaning that it is specifically designed to rank for specific keyword set that drives traffic to a main site.

All too often do I see people stressing over keywords in the domain names... it's just not that important anymore. Pick yourself a domain... And then get to the rest of your campaign because that's where the Battlefield lies.

Sorry, I disagree with this 100%. Keywords in domain are still very important. Is it going to instantly put you on page #1 for your term - obviously not. Is it going to give you an edge, definitely.

Time and time again exact match domains prove easier to rank than domains with the keyword plus added stuff. But if you can't get an exact match try and get your keyword in there with as little else as possible. Just try adding an x to the end or use dashes.

On-page SEO is your foundation, do it right and everything is easier.

stackcash · 05-05-2011, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snubi

I have a quick seo question. Lets say i wanted to make a liver disease niche site:

"Liver disease" being the keyword i wanted to rank for

or would i be totally gimped from the start against

Just an example not my actual niche

No, it's not as good as the perfect EMD. However, you need to analyze your competition and see where they are weak in SEO. Maybe they don't have title tags optimized, or maybe their keyword density is lacking. Use their weakness to your advantage by doing exactly what they did to reach the top rankings plus more.

NastyBlast · 05-05-2011, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdrs

Time and time again exact match domains prove easier to rank than domains with the keyword plus added stuff.

You are probably experiencing this because it sounds like you know what you're after and how to get it. So you have more going for you than A keyword rich domain when you go after a search term.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdrs

On-page SEO is your foundation, do it right and everything is easier.

Of that there is no doubt... But as the other person posting mentioned I would not sacrifice an easy to type .com over a keyword specific .net. which leads me back to my original point which is the domain is not nearly as important as it used to be. Is it ideal... sure. But over time site performance statistics will outweigh domains with planted keywords.

I think there is plenty of evidence for this for any search term or else nearly every domain on page 1 would have your search terms in it. sure there are a lot more variables on saying is don't stress out over a domain especially at the expense of it being easy to type

redlegrich · 05-05-2011, 10:40 AM

I think EMD is a good way to go. At the company I work at I have 12 EMD sites, all are on the first page of Google and the other two at 12 and 17. But.... in your case I would suggest you be more specific. Liver disease is way to general, what exactly are you offering or trying to accomplish. If you say liver disease info I'd say you are going to have a tough time competing against the likes of WebMD. Find really specific keywords related to liver disease and then build sites around those.

snubi · 05-05-2011, 10:40 AM

Thanks for the replies actually i want to make a broader type of niche site.

So i guess my example is a little flawed it should be liverdiseases and not liverdisease

Basically i want to make a site with all "insert some broad health niche here" information on it.

but as long as my domain contains the keyword and its close to www. i should be all right? i know my competitors will have an edge

Edit: also what about www. liverdiseases-info .com vs www. liverdiseaseinfo .com Does it matter SERP vice?

AlexSafie · 05-05-2011, 10:47 AM

Although having your exact keyword in the domain has SEO benefits it’s not the only ranking factor and according to Matt Cutts Google is looking to reduce these benefits.

YouTube - How important is it to have keywords in...

redlegrich · 05-05-2011, 10:53 AM

A broader niche site is what is known as an oxymoron.

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snubi Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Quick seo question Bump.... anyone?

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NastyBlast HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 154 Thanks: 0 Thanked 31 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Quick seo question don't stress about it. Keywords in the domain are not that critical but in your case it does seem like you are highly focused on particular key words according to your example. Reduce it to a domain that is easy to remember and type and just try to keep your keywords in it or subsequent URLs that can cover the keywords also. The only time I would say to really stress a domain name is when it is a feeder domain meaning that it is specifically designed to rank for specific keyword set that drives traffic to a main site. All too often do I see people stressing over keywords in the domain names... it's just not that important anymore. Pick yourself a domain... And then get to the rest of your campaign because that's where the Battlefield lies.

05-05-2011, 10:15 AM	#4
simpleonline1234 SEO Analyst War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 458 Thanks: 0 Thanked 56 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Quick seo question Well obviously the EMD (exact match domain) is going to hold more weight but it doesn't really matter as far as the total picture goes. Having an EMD is a great boost in the rankings but doesn't mean your doomed if you don't have an EMD. Me personally I will try to get the .com first and if it is not available then I will try the .net and finally the .info. If all of those are gone I will go back to the .com and enter some additional words at the "END" of the keywords and try the .com , then .net, and .info again. having your keywords as close to the www. is going to help. But in the end the links and content are going to make you or break you.
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05-05-2011, 10:40 AM	#8
redlegrich HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 373 Thanks: 37 Thanked 81 Times in 75 Posts Contact Info	Re: Quick seo question I think EMD is a good way to go. At the company I work at I have 12 EMD sites, all are on the first page of Google and the other two at 12 and 17. But.... in your case I would suggest you be more specific. Liver disease is way to general, what exactly are you offering or trying to accomplish. If you say liver disease info I'd say you are going to have a tough time competing against the likes of WebMD. Find really specific keywords related to liver disease and then build sites around those.

05-05-2011, 10:40 AM	#9
snubi Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Quick seo question Thanks for the replies actually i want to make a broader type of niche site. So i guess my example is a little flawed it should be liverdiseases and not liverdisease Basically i want to make a site with all "insert some broad health niche here" information on it. but as long as my domain contains the keyword and its close to www. i should be all right? i know my competitors will have an edge Edit: also what about www. liverdiseases-info .com vs www. liverdiseaseinfo .com Does it matter SERP vice?

05-05-2011, 08:54 AM	#1
snubi Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Quick seo question I have a quick seo question. Lets say i wanted to make a liver disease niche site: Is: www. liverdiseaseinfo .com or www. aboutliverdisease .com As good as: www. liverdisease .com "Liver disease" being the keyword i wanted to rank for or would i be totally gimped from the start against www. liverdisease .com Just an example not my actual niche

05-05-2011, 10:53 AM	#11
redlegrich HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 373 Thanks: 37 Thanked 81 Times in 75 Posts Contact Info	Re: Quick seo question A broader niche site is what is known as an oxymoron.