My time + $100 per month....SEO ideas?

[ballanrk]

I am new to forum but only as a registered member. I've been actively absorbing everything I can so what next? Meaning.....

• I've got my niche
• I've got my site

After on page SEO is complete what would be your plan of action. I've got the time to do the work and have what I feel is the best plan to take action on but I think I should devote at least $100 per month to SEO. Backlinks, social bookmarking, forum posting, software, etc. All ideas are welcomed.

Thanks in advance for anyone's time with suggestions.

Ballanrk

[aygabtu]

I wouldn't spend any money on off-site SEO. It is more a matter of time and patience if you know what you are doing. Social bookmarking, article writing, etc. can be done by you. I feel like the biggest benefit my site has gotten with google is on-site SEO and excellent analytic numbers. My bounce rate is around 8% and time on site averages 47 minutes per user per day. I think google looks at that when they do their rankings, which is why I am number #1 with a lot of keywords to my site even though I started later in this area.

[Tad 100]

Off page is 80-90% of all SEO. You must spend most of your money there.

I will explain in details that you understand basics because at the moment you don’t know what you are talking.

On page SEO is what you say about you. Real life example - you want to find the job and in interview you talk about yourself that you are good at all areas, right? This is on page what you say about yourself.

Off page is what others are saying about you. Real life example - employer calls to your previous employers and asks about you? This is off page what others are saying about you.

Now guess which one is more important: what you say about yourself or what others are saying about you?

If the competition is low Google will show you even in the 1 place because Google have no other valid options. But if competition is tight - for example in today world it is tighter than it was 1 year back.

Another real life example - you want to hire freelancer for SEO services. One person say that he is so good in SEO and knows everything, but his feedback score is low with comments like ‘he don’t know SEO at all’. I can predict with 100% that you never hire this person. This is our normal behavior. This is why eBay is so popular with their feedback system.

Same with Google my friend, believe me off page is the critical part of all SEO and you must invest most of your money there.

[Boomachucka]

Lol, 2 replies with opposite points of view

I would say that you should just take the $100, invest in a good tool to help you streamline your off-page promotion or research, and use that extra time to expand your site to you can gather more traffic.

Where you spend that $100 is up to you. There are lots of tools out there, things like AMR, Market Samurai, Scrapebox, and so on. It depends on how you want to focus your offpage efforts.

(For me personally- while Market Samurai doesn't have a ton in the way of promotion tools, I find it very useful for figuring out how I should be targeting my content. I would recommend getting demo's of a few of the big name software packages, and trying them out.)

[Bramantya Prakosa]

Originally Posted by aygabtu

I wouldn't spend any money on off-site SEO. It is more a matter of time and patience if you know what you are doing. Social bookmarking, article writing, etc. can be done by you. I feel like the biggest benefit my site has gotten with google is on-site SEO and excellent analytic numbers. My bounce rate is around 8% and time on site averages 47 minutes per user per day. I think google looks at that when they do their rankings, which is why I am number #1 with a lot of keywords to my site even though I started later in this area.

hmmm is this true 8% bounce rate hmmmmm amazing, but backlink is a must friend...

[HKSEO Rotzee]

Yes, on page optimization is great, of course but don't be fooled to think back-linking doesn't work. Start backlinking your ready sites now, you can start off slow with 50 a day for brand new sites and then move up to a couple hundred to more aged sites or sites that you've been hitting with 50 a day for some time.

[junilerick]

I think there is merit in both points of view but you can't entirely neglect either one.

Good on-page SEO would give you the relevancy needed to rank well but wihtout proper off-page SEO it would most likely take alot longer to move up the ranking, and probably unnessarily so. Unless your content is so amazingly super awesome that people want to link to it naturally.

Off-page SEO without targeted content and good internal linking would also make it difficult to rank for the keywords you are targeting. And considering on-page factors are what you have the most control over, there should have no reason to pass it up.

There are plenty of free tools that can help speed up the backlinking process so I think the biggest question is how capable you are at coming up with relevant and compelling content. If you are confident in your writing ability then perhaps spending your money on backlinking tools such as Magic Submitter or SEOLR and writing the articles yourself would be the best option. If not, maybe you should put your money into paying for good content and do the backlinking yourself.

It's all about making the best use of your time according to your strengths and weaknesses.

[affiliatebox]

I think his main question is where to spend $100 on off page SEO, since he said that on page SEO is done

If you have time, here is where could you spend your time on :
1. Article writing for distribution use (you could always outsource this one)
2. Manual social bookmarking (target high PR only like digg, delicious,etc, etc,)
3. Manual article distribution (also target Hi PR only like ezine, goarticle, etc etc, 10 is enough in my opininon)
4. Manual blog commenting on .edu/.gov, why manual?
.edu/.gov is important, and you couldn't easily spam them with tools like scrapebox, so in my opinion, manual is the best for this type of blog commenting
(You could accomplish that with just 1 hour/day or less, so it's not a big deal.

Now, about your money, here are my suggestion where to spend it :
I would suggest you to spend on article networks such as BMR, AMA or UAW. I believe that links within the articles have more stable result compared to profiles or blog commenting. Profile links and blog comment links will give you a fast but temporarily result in serp, overtime, much of them will get devalued by G, so it could not maintain your rank in serps for a long time, while link in articles will give you step by step increasing in SERP but could maintain your rank for a long time.
You will need The Best Spinner also to spin your articles, plus AMR for article distribution on article directories.

But if you like to have spamming tools , i could suggest you (which i also use too) :
1. Scrapebox - mainly for blog commenting
2. Sickmarketing - a little slow since utilizing IE, but it's cheap and has a lot of functionality such as social bookmarking, forum profile, blog commenting and article distribution
3. Bookmarking demon - for social bookmarking

That's all is more than enough to achieve page one for low to medium competition.

Hope this help

[yukon]

If you have the time, then do the seo yourself, & spend that $100 per month on non-seo traffic like niche forum advertising.

Your money/time will go twice as far, you'll be getting niche forum traffic + traffic from Google, etc... Instead of relying only on Google traffic, trust me you don't want to go down that road (only Google traffic).

Originally Posted by ballanrk

I am new to forum but only as a registered member. I've been actively absorbing everything I can so what next? Meaning.....

• I've got my niche
• I've got my site

After on page SEO is complete what would be your plan of action. I've got the time to do the work and have what I feel is the best plan to take action on but I think I should devote at least $100 per month to SEO. Backlinks, social bookmarking, forum posting, software, etc. All ideas are welcomed.

Thanks in advance for anyone's time with suggestions.

Ballanrk

[carzan]

Fresh content...probably you can outsource article writing.

[BG48]

hey ballanrk,

I would outsource backlinks and article writing. I even outsource having my websites built. I usually can find a guy to do 150 manual blog comments for $15

Hope this helps

[Bramantya Prakosa]

social bookmarking,article writing,high pr blog commenting,and article ranks maybe

[Jack Chase]

If you have the time then writing unique articles and submitting them to established sites (here is a list: 50 High Page Rank Article Directories) and building backlinks with some strong blog comments (high PR pages, .edu, .gov) and social book marking is probably the best thing to do.

This can be done for free if you have the time and patience to do it yourself. I would either save the $100 for now (it may be useful for SEO later) or do what yukon said and spend it on niche forums.

[frank07]

Originally Posted by backlinksvideo

Off page is 80-90% of all SEO. You must spend most of your money there.

I will explain in details that you understand basics because at the moment you don’t know what you are talking.

On page SEO is what you say about you. Real life example - you want to find the job and in interview you talk about yourself that you are good at all areas, right? This is on page what you say about yourself.

Off page is what others are saying about you. Real life example - employer calls to your previous employers and asks about you? This is off page what others are saying about you.

Now guess which one is more important: what you say about yourself or what others are saying about you?

If the competition is low Google will show you even in the 1 place because Google have no other valid options. But if competition is tight - for example in today world it is tighter than it was 1 year back.

Another real life example - you want to hire freelancer for SEO services. One person say that he is so good in SEO and knows everything, but his feedback score is low with comments like ‘he don’t know SEO at all’. I can predict with 100% that you never hire this person. This is our normal behavior. This is why eBay is so popular with their feedback system.

Same with Google my friend, believe me off page is the critical part of all SEO and you must invest most of your money there.

I agree with you, without backlinks, your site cannot find by people on SE. If your keyword is low competition keywords, you can easy beat your competitors with nice move. You can try social bookmarking, article marketing, forum profiles... You do not need to wait when you have all of material to start. And remember quality is better than quantity, make 1000 backlinks one day will be spam with Google eyes.