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Old 05-13-2011, 09:05 AM   #1
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Default 100 mini web page and the first 50 de-ranked ?

Hy every body,

just one month ago, a strange thing happen to me, i was building since 3 month 100 mini web page all about traveling place with very low competition keywords. all my web page ranked in the first a second page of the serps (because of very low competition i think).

For the last 50 i had the "good idea" to just put one page of very short content and in the site map a link to all the other (older) waiting to get indexing fast and adding more content Little by little. i was just linking in one way : the newer to the older. My surprise was to see my older web page in just 2 days after adding the last 50 mini site (in 2 days) get a lost of 100 position all in the same day?

all the mini site are in public domains, hosting with hostmonster with adsense ,google analytic and using a very simple template in html.

the strangest thing is that a few of my mini site which were not linked or even completely different were affect as well (the oldest one)!

now i have 50 mini site with on month age, with almost no content, no backlink in the 1st page of google and my oldest one with more content and back link in postion 80 to 100 ?

can someone explain me what to do ? the reasons ? i d'ont think it is the panda's fault because all my web page are in french and were ranking good in the french engine ?

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Old 05-13-2011, 12:52 PM   #2
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Default Re: 100 mini web page and the first 50 de-ranked ?

So for the last 50 sites you added a link to the oldest site you had. This was during the last 1-2 months then?

When did the site drop, and how long has it been there? By the way you're describing this process it sounds like its the very first set of links you've built for that site. It could just be dancing.

Perhaps an attic I shall seek.
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wow now that is a spammy post of i ever seen one.

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Default Re: 100 mini web page and the first 50 de-ranked ?

When your first 50 has been de-ranked, usually the other 50 will follow soon. That happened to a bunch of my micro niche sites.

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my micro niche is working well and I am not using google analytics.
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So for the last 50 sites you added a link to the oldest site you had. This was during the last 1-2 months then?

When did the site drop, and how long has it been there? By the way you're describing this process it sounds like its the very first set of links you've built for that site. It could just be dancing.
thanks for your quick answer
i put online 50 mini site in 2-3 days, just a little page comment with all the legal stuff and a link to the older ones.
i think my mistake was the adding of 50 back link to my older site (the other 50) in a few days ??
my older site has been here for about 3 to 4 month !
i just make a few back-link manually or using UAW with only one article a day submit !
Is 50 back link in a few days too much for micro niches ?
how can google de-ranked other mini site not link between each other, just with your name? anlytic ? rank checker ? or even worst with adsense ? (that the only things linking all my minisite)

thanks a lot it seem that recently lot of people have this kind of experiences.
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When your first 50 has been de-ranked, usually the other 50 will follow soon. That happened to a bunch of my micro niche sites.
thank a lot,
and what have you done after that to be ranked well again ?
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Default Re: 100 mini web page and the first 50 de-ranked ?

If you make micro niche sites you will always have the risky of this hapenning.

And never interlink or put analitics or adsense on all of them.

Just put adense on the ones with most visits.
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Nice information buddy
thanks for the sharing useful information.
Which useful information are you talking about?
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If you make micro niche sites you will always have the risky of this hapenning.

And never interlink or put analitics or adsense on all of them.

Just put adense on the ones with most visits.
why dont put adsense or anyantlics on all my sites? what happens?

all my sites have this?
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Default Re: 100 mini web page and the first 50 de-ranked ?

i also put adwords on my site, and got a message from google saying i violated google terms and had a "bridge", its a affliate marketing site promoting 1 product. they said my account will be suspended, and my website will be removed, if not fixed.

the weird thing is a google agent called me with free $100 free credit, he said i can use, special promoton, i said ok make a campaign for me, after he made, i got that email

its that googles fault they wanted me to use the credit too

I hear horror stories like this all the time, its googles world, they are like a dictorship trying to control the internet, the goverment should regualte google i think.
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Similar website design+same host(?)+same domain provider(?)+even same IP(?) + link wheel=penalized. I was there, too. I had 12 websites ranked well but when I linked them together, boom! All got penalized and ranked nowhere.

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Similar website design+same host(?)+same domain provider(?)+even same IP(?) + link wheel=penalized. I was there, too. I had 12 websites ranked well but when I linked them together, boom! All got penalized and ranked nowhere.
Similar website design (yes)+same host yes +same domain provider(yes)+even same IP(what do you mean exactly, all my mini page are on the same host ?) + link wheel=penalized.

Can i do something to recover my ranking ? when i realise last month i was penalized i removed immediately the link (link wheel) but still same template (not rally a template a simple html page but same color) and still same host and same domain provider !

are the penalization for ever ?

thanks a million if you 've been in the same frustated posision and what to do to avoid it or to fix it ?
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After now 5 weeks my oldest 50 micro niche are still de-ranked !, do you think they will come Back in the 1rst page (very low competition) ?

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Just a quick release !

after now 2 month all my 50 page still in same position, whatever i do nothing happen !

i create last month one similar web page with the same domain, same template, same keyword except it was ending in .net (spun copy of one of my mini page de-ranked with .org) and i reach now the first page with this new domain and almost no back link !!

Which kind of penalization is that ?? shall i see the end soon ?

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Default Re: 100 mini web page and the first 50 de-ranked ?

From my experience (and I also read same opinions), new websites get some "bonus" in SERP for first 2-4 weeks, but during that time, if number of links is not increasing, they will lost their positions in SERP...

But it can be also because of poor quality of your websites...

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From my experience (and I also read same opinions), new websites get some "bonus" in SERP for first 2-4 weeks, but during that time, if number of links is not increasing, they will lost their positions in SERP...

But it can be also because of poor quality of your websites...
Totally agree, but 50 web site lost their position in one Day 2 month ago! all with 2 or 3 page of original content and my other last 50 new one in same niche with more or less no content are all in 1st or 2 nd page (3month old) ! (ok it is a very low competition).

all that happen when i put a one way link from the crappy site to the good one already 2 month ago !

i don't know if they will recover ?? what do you think it is a penality, a slap or something else !

definitively is not google dance or honey moon effect!

some one have similar experience ?

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Similar website design+same host(?)+same domain provider(?)+even same IP(?) + link wheel=penalized. I was there, too. I had 12 websites ranked well but when I linked them together, boom! All got penalized and ranked nowhere.
Are your web site recover since ?

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Default Re: 100 mini web page and the first 50 de-ranked ?

I would advise you to keep adding content and doing consistent (in time) quality linkbuilding and you will see in a month or so if it works...

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