How Important is PR during Keyword Research?

Mike Hlatky · 05-15-2011, 05:18 PM

When you are searching for new keywords, how important is PR to you?

If there are a bunch of high PR authority sites with minimal backlinks to the PAGE in the top 10, but the keyword in not in very many titles, descriptions, etc. are you still going to try and rank for the keyword.

Assuming the keyword is profitable and it gets a decent amount of searches.

precie · 05-15-2011, 06:01 PM

It's important to get high PR backlinks
Not so if you are competing with high PR sites that are poorly optimized

pdrs · 05-15-2011, 06:10 PM

if they're poorly optimized for the term and dont have a whole lot of backlinks I'll definitely go for it. If they're all really optimized for the term then I'll probably look elsewhere.

Ideally I'm always on the lookout for the gold-mines. No optimization on front page, low PR on front page, Exact match domain for me and a profitable keyword

Obviously, you might say. But they're definitely still out there.

Fraggler · 05-15-2011, 06:20 PM

PR (on that page) is a good initial indicator, but it doesn't tell the whole story.

You need to do a backlink analysis on the page to see what their links are optimised for. PR will not show you the power of an up and coming page that hasn't been through a PR update yet, their backlinks might.

Google works by returning a bunch of relevant results and then sorts those based on authority/trust and relevancy. A highly relevant page (based on the search) can outrank a high authority/trusted page. Backlinks are a major contributor to both relevancy and authority/trust. PR can quickly give you an idea of the authority/trust side of things.

Kecia · 05-15-2011, 06:36 PM

I try to stay under PR 3 for my competing pages. However, if the page at the top has a pR or 4-6 and only has 100 or less backlinks, I'd probably go for it...and I'd definitely go for it if the keyword isn't in the title or description.

zackick · 05-16-2011, 02:11 AM

if the pr is 5-6 i won't try to rank it and if that is the case just register keyword as domain and do backlink. for while you maybe out rank those website.

Psykryph · 05-16-2011, 02:19 AM

Exactly what JaneJackson87 said...

I really don't know what you're talking about here, because as far as I know and have learned, PR is absolutely irrelevant to rankings. I never look at PR, PR means nothing as far as I'm concerned. My PR 1 website has outranked PR 4-5 websites in my niche, even though they also have more than twice as many backlinks.

How do I outrank them?

1. PR means NOTHING.
2. I rank higher than them for only select keywords, the most competitive ones, whereas they rank higher than I do for a larger number of other keywords.

kiranraj19 · 05-21-2011, 05:55 AM

i don't think pr is important while researching for new keywords. keyword competition, global &local monthly searches are required for keyword research...

chykee · 05-21-2011, 10:31 AM

If you want to compete with site that has very decent keyword search, i would advice you go for poorly onpage optimized site because as much as the almighty google loves backlinks, it prefers sites that have highly optimized onpage to drive traffic to..

05-15-2011, 05:18 PM	#1
Mike Hlatky Website Flipper War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,105 Thanks: 120 Thanked 303 Times in 199 Posts Contact Info	How Important is PR during Keyword Research? When you are searching for new keywords, how important is PR to you? If there are a bunch of high PR authority sites with minimal backlinks to the PAGE in the top 10, but the keyword in not in very many titles, descriptions, etc. are you still going to try and rank for the keyword. Assuming the keyword is profitable and it gets a decent amount of searches.
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precie Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 48 Thanks: 9 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How Important is PR during Keyword Research? It's important to get high PR backlinks Not so if you are competing with high PR sites that are poorly optimized

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pdrs Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 603 Thanks: 27 Thanked 73 Times in 56 Posts	Re: How Important is PR during Keyword Research? if they're poorly optimized for the term and dont have a whole lot of backlinks I'll definitely go for it. If they're all really optimized for the term then I'll probably look elsewhere. Ideally I'm always on the lookout for the gold-mines. No optimization on front page, low PR on front page, Exact match domain for me and a profitable keyword Obviously, you might say. But they're definitely still out there.
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Fraggler Troy Steele War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,763 Thanks: 723 Thanked 499 Times in 319 Posts Social Networking	Re: How Important is PR during Keyword Research? PR (on that page) is a good initial indicator, but it doesn't tell the whole story. You need to do a backlink analysis on the page to see what their links are optimised for. PR will not show you the power of an up and coming page that hasn't been through a PR update yet, their backlinks might. Google works by returning a bunch of relevant results and then sorts those based on authority/trust and relevancy. A highly relevant page (based on the search) can outrank a high authority/trusted page. Backlinks are a major contributor to both relevancy and authority/trust. PR can quickly give you an idea of the authority/trust side of things.
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Kecia Writing Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 821 Thanks: 276 Thanked 249 Times in 195 Posts Social Networking	Re: How Important is PR during Keyword Research? I try to stay under PR 3 for my competing pages. However, if the page at the top has a pR or 4-6 and only has 100 or less backlinks, I'd probably go for it...and I'd definitely go for it if the keyword isn't in the title or description.
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Psykryph Warrior Hermaphrodite Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 50 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	Re: How Important is PR during Keyword Research? Exactly what JaneJackson87 said... I really don't know what you're talking about here, because as far as I know and have learned, PR is absolutely irrelevant to rankings. I never look at PR, PR means nothing as far as I'm concerned. My PR 1 website has outranked PR 4-5 websites in my niche, even though they also have more than twice as many backlinks. How do I outrank them? 1. PR means NOTHING. 2. I rank higher than them for only select keywords, the most competitive ones, whereas they rank higher than I do for a larger number of other keywords.
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chykee HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 151 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	Re: How Important is PR during Keyword Research? If you want to compete with site that has very decent keyword search, i would advice you go for poorly onpage optimized site because as much as the almighty google loves backlinks, it prefers sites that have highly optimized onpage to drive traffic to..