Google Algorithm v Bing and Yahoo Algorithm

[TBInternetMarketing]

I'd be interested to hear anyone's thoughts/experiences on ranking in Google v ranking in Bing or Yahoo?

For example, I have a site at the moment sitting at number 6 on Google's first page, but 92 on Yahoo and 23 on Bing.

I also have another site sitting at 8 on Bing, but only 153 on Yahoo and it's nowhere to be seen in Google.

I'd like to hear what your findings are with your sites that rank well in one of the search engines.

Have you found that if you rank well in one search engine, eventually you will rank well in the others? Of course they all use different algorithms but I'd be keen to hear your experience with this out of interest.

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing

I'd be interested to hear anyone's thoughts/experiences on ranking in Google v ranking in Bing or Yahoo?

For example, I have a site at the moment sitting at number 6 on Google's first page, but 92 on Yahoo and 23 on Bing.

I also have another site sitting at 8 on Bing, but only 153 on Yahoo and it's nowhere to be seen in Google.

I'd like to hear what your findings are with your sites that rank well in one of the search engines.

Have you found that if you rank well in one search engine, eventually you will rank well in the others? Of course they all use different algorithms but I'd be keen to hear your experience with this out of interest.

yahoo and bing seem to never index more than a few pages of my sites. all my sites have thousands of pages and in google, i have as many as 80,000 pages indexed on one site. yahoo and bing? the most i have indexed is maybe 40. that's a crazy discrepancy.

[NastyBlast]

the reason Bing/Yahoo will never produce more quality results that Google is because Google has beaten them to the data that really matters. The extensive feedback loops that tell Google how long people spend on websites is absolutely crucial to the Google algorithm.

It's really quite basic but there is so much bad information out there to get distracted by that most people end up disregarding what Google says right on dear homepage for webmasters "build a good site". most people read too far into this and don't want to face the reality of building a solid site that naturally attracts visitors.

Throughout history Google has monitored and analyzed the amount of time people spend on websites. This tells Google how much people like the websites. And whichever website achieves a higher score will ascend in the rankings. not knowing this is why many people at this form struggle to understand why some sites outrank them with less back-links. it's not all about back links. Back links only get you noticed by Google, the rest is up to the site: people have to like it.

So to answer your question, the reason Yahoo/bing will never defeat Google is because Google has already monopolized the data feedback loop that tells Google how much people like websites. It has been confirmed by Verizon that Google has negotiated and secured exclusive rights to ISP data. This data is anonymous and so currently it cannot be defeated in court.

The Google toolbar that was launched so many years ago was the first method of Google measuring people's activities at websites. when the other search providers realize this we saw a flood of toolbars spill onto the net. Yahoo, ask.com, Alexa, and who knows how many others battled to get their toolbar in your browser. Before you knew it you had 4 inches of toolbars.

But by that time it was too late because Google had already moved on from toolbar model and the only logical place for them to go was the ISPs. And now that they have secured the ISPs - Yahoo/bing are quite simply - Shut Out... and will never catch up on that aspect. this is why bing forced its way on to the latest generation of blackberries( I bet it cost a fortune even at their level ). they are still chasing after the data they need that Google currently monopolizes

this is why you see the confusing mess of results that you asked about. Yahoo/bing are pathetically crawling around the net in an attempt to form an algorithm that can produce quality results.

[dp40oz]

Ive also found that Bing and Yahoo are easily manipulated by quick link building. If you pound tons of links at 1 page quickly Bing and Yahoo will usually place your page high right away. I'll sometimes do this if im hitting a brick wall with Google, i'll just concentrate on Bing and Yahoo because they're much easier to exploit.

[yukon]

I've always only targeted Google as far as ranking a page in the SERPs. Most times Yahoo/Bing will rank a lot easier without really trying.