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Hello, I don't know anything about monetizing a website and was wondering if my site that gets 4,000 or so unique hits a day could make me any money? I don't really want to sell products or anything and I've heard adsense will only make you pennies. Is there something good out there like pay per click or similar? Thanks in advance |
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It depend on your website niche. To me Adsense is the one of the best way to monetise your website. Yes, eran per click is tiny but again it depend on the keyword (niche). Fireman, think about this... how much effort and money you have spend to get this 4k unique visitor a day. You should somehow capture their email by offering them free stuff. If 1% subscribe in a month you would have 1200 subscribers.. that is a lot. So don't just let them pass by..and say bye! bye! :-) You know this people is GOLD if you know how to approach. |
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4,000 unique visits a day is very nice. That is more than enough to make some real money online, because people do it with much less. The amount of money you make depends on how targeted your visitors are and why they're coming to your site. Why don't you consider making your own products? God bless, William Veasley |
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Thanks for the replies. Many of the visitors "like" the site on facebook, would that be the same as a list? Some sign up on the site to make comments as well. I am not really sure how targeted the traffic is, the site is a humor blog with 99% of the visitors being male 18-35. Does anyone know of ads where you make money from visitors seeing them? |
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First off, I wanted to say Welcome to the forums, since I saw this is your first post. I haven't been here as much as I should either...Second off, a lot of Internet Marketers ask me this same question, "How much is a good amount of traffic." I honestly wish that there was a hard and fixed answer to thsi question, but unfortunately, it really depends on a lot of different factors. Most importantly, is the basic principle of all commerce, supply and demand. Is there more demand for your product than there currently is supply? If so, you have a good start. Also, what technique are you using to get your traffic to convert? Are you Direct Linking to some sort of offer, or are you doing a pre-sell page, and if so, what do you want on the Pre-sell page? Most importantly, does your website sell itself? The most important thing in Online Marketing (just like every other form of Marketing, is to ask yourself, how does my website sell?). For this, you need to have excellent copywriting on your website... I would recommend either mastering copywriting yourself, or pay good money in order to get a really good copywriter. So... Ultimately, to answer your question, Is 4,000 unique visitors a day enough to make "good money", it depends on what your definition of good money is, but I would say, if you have an offer/product that is in demand, a good product/pre-sell page, with amazing copy on it, and you're able to get traffic at very reasonable rates, then I would say 4,000 unique visitors per day will allow you to rake in the dough. ;-) If you have any more questions, please post them below and I will try to get to them asap. :-) | |
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If 4000 people are visiting your website daily, it wouldn't be hard to get at least 1% (40) of them to do what you want them to do to make some money... think of it that way |
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In the end, the site was just sucking bandwith from my server and earning relatively nothing. The only time I made any money with it was when I sold it to someone else on Flippa for $1000. | |
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Here's the thing. It's not a marketing site, I'm not selling anything. People are coming for the content. I am just hoping to monetize the site through advertising, or maybe some sort of pay per click. I really mean it when I say I have zero knowledge of this stuff. |
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while you might have traffic it doesn't mean that it is going to convert. The only way to find out is do some testing and tracking
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I was just reading an article, (just google Why your Adsense Sites could be leaving money on the table) where i found these figures that may interest you. You may expect to earn from 0,11USD/unique visitor to 1,51USD/unique visitor. Depending on the monetization source you will be chosing, being adsense one of the lower incoming sources. But I encourage you to read the full article. |
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4000 uniques a day is very nice ... conversation rate of 0.005% would work nicely with your own product. Are the visitors random or targeted ?
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Code your own content blocker and have them fill out a CPA offer or two.
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I think one of the questions that you are really asking is -- Is there something you could put up on your website (like Adsense ads) and possibly earn some money just from doing what you're doing and receiving the 4000 visitors you are receiving? I think the answer is yes, probably, a little bit. Now, as others have pointed out, if you want to do some really deliberate things to capture visitors, offer freebies, create info products, put up affiliate links, and so on, then your earnings possibility would be more. But if you want to do nothing in addition to what you are already doing, then I'd say ... sure, put up Adsense and see if you could earn a little bit. It can't hurt. |
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4000 visitors a month is more then enough to make money. Since you don't want to sell anything the only thing you really can do is use some sort of pay per click program. However, I would suggest you start building a list, find out what they want, create a product that provides the information they want and sell it to them.
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With 4000 unique visitors a month, I would think it would be fairly easy to make at least something. I agree that Adsense certainly can't hurt, as long as it's non-intrusive. As far as related affiliate products: joke books, books by comedians, DVDs, funny posters/signs, and some of the places like T-Shirt Hell, especially. You could also put your site's logo on t-shirts and coffee cups and such and sell them on Cafe Press. I wouldn't do this, personally. I think you would see a huge increase of visitors leaving and not coming back. |
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I think your market being males 18-35, means you want to have ads for electronics. Maybe you could have a link on the sidebar to a new section of your site...It would have funny reviews of some products, like...for instance, ebook readers- "A pedophile's look at the Kindle... A Pimp's look at da Nook..." I don't know....something stupid like that! But put actually good information in the reviews, just done in a character's persona or something. So people read it and share it cause it's funny, but in the end they think "huh, that's actually a good review with good information". 4,000 uniques a day is A LOT of income potential. |
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I can vouch that a 'character' can sometimes boost a product's sales considerably. My first product was an ebook written and marketed 'in character', and people took to it instantly thinking I was some sort of mysterious authority figure who went by an unusual monicker to mask his identity. Had I sold it as just plain Brad, I'm sure it wouldn't have done nearly as well. That same character also eventually led me into several other lucrative ventures, as well. You could be the "Redneck Reviewer" or something like that. | |
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Some other places you could try if your not sure on adsense I would to be quite honest what we did for our client's pages and social media is set up a home(FaceBookFanpages) on facebook like your own page and link it to your website. Making more traffic come free to your pages,And generally making your website Viral or into a community who will be talking about your page day-in-day out. One question i have is how long in duration do your visitors stay for after viewing your content, Google Ananlystic shows this infomation if you haved this installed, The reason i mention that is because you can use that infomation to determine what part of your site is attracting the most visitors. Some other places you could try if your not sure on adsense Peerfly.com(CPA network) Cj.com(again CPA network) Amazon Affiliates program Buysellads.com(exchange with other websites and sell ad space) One factor we took in finding things for our pages is to incude items that match what your site is about, Alot of people i have known who are clients for our business seem after we have set up the social media fan pages and websites for businesses seem to plaster alot of google adsense over the place which is a good way to make money but it takes people away from your site over time. The purpose is to keep them on your site which is why we never use adsense.We made far more money from the buysellads i noted and CPA plus you have control also on were the ads can be placed If you mentioned the 400,000 or so visits you would get some great offers for space on your site from buysellads and can charge on a per month basis. hope that helps |
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You should definitelty be able to earn a decent income with 4,000 UV a day. You should be able to put up a nice CPA offer for quicker profits.
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Wow you folks are really great here, thank you for all these recommendations, I am going to look into all of this. My main goal is to not have it look like it is just plastered with crap, I want stuff that is seems like it goes with the site. I like 4,000 people a day reading my writing I would hate to lose them (but it would be nice to get some money out of it) I have to admit not sure what CPA means sorry, I'll google it! |
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say you had a site with CPA banners offering a product related to your site. when one of your visitors clicks on the offer and fills in some data (email or name address or mobile number or survey ect) you get paid for that visitor for directing traffic to the CPA network who runs the offer. hope that helps | |
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4k unique a day is a lot and you will surely make money i think on any niche
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You can make money from just 5 uniques per month. It really depends on the quality of traffic and buyer intent of your keywords.
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Try all sorts of advertising and affiliate programs and see which one works best on your website. Nobody can give you an exact answer about this to you, you have to test yourself. I don't know from where you heard that AdSense will only make pennies, this is not true at all. I get $1+ clicks regularly on two of my AdSense sites. And honestly, if your site is not based around a specific niche, AdSense could be your best earner. | |
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That type of traffic is very hard to earn with pay with click. humor, quotes, etc doesn't convert well. But if you can get the traffic high enough, you can make money via CPM. |
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4000 hits a day? This is incredible. If you are not making money with this website, you are passing by huge $$$.
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try find an affiliate program for the products you think are related to your niche. 4000 hits a day is really amazing and with proper ads (even adsense makes sense) you surely make money for that.
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if you have adsense there on your site then you can earn alot and yes it really depends on your niche and how persuasive you are ..
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While I really appreciate all the response, it all just seems way over my head. Is there any companies or sites out there who handle the monetization of websites for owners for a share of the profits?
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You would be mad not to try and monetize your visitors, even if its just to capture leads and sell them via email, or sell solos ads to marketers in your niche. Jason |
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Fireman, I suggest you sell ads space. you check here. buysellads.com |
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I would personally start building a list. Remember, if your site's traffic is targeted and you can capture a loyal list, then that is $$$ in the bank :-) Best of luck! |
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It depends how targeted the 4,000 unique visitors are. You can make money with literally a handful of visitors a day. If those 4000 are untargeted you'll struggle to make anything much.
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Hey, Definitely build a mailing list- fresh joke/day or something like that. Then, find relevant products (such as T-shirts, comedians DVDs (which you might advertise through your joke/day as being one of their acts captured on youtube),etc.) Secondly - Sell Add Space! With that much unique visitors daily, you'll have no problem getting your hands on some quick money with this technique ![]() Good Luck! |
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4000 visitors a day should definitely get you some conversions. That's a very good number of traffic. Ofcourse it depends if you your website is being monetized or not. Quote:
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There are loads of ways to monetize a site that receives such high traffic on a daily basis have a browse through google something will inspire you.
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It's great to have 4k hits a day at your website. With this, you will surely earn huge money. Congrats!
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4,000 unique visitors depend on niche and whether it is targeted traffic. 1 month would be 120,000 visitors. It is not very difficult to make money for that traffic.
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4,000 visitors a day is great. I would find out the demographics (gender, race) and find a relevant product for targeted visitors.
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If you can monetize it well, you can make a few hundred a day if you get 4000 uniques consistently.
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It isn't enough to have 4,000 unique visitors to your site. If they are just visiting and not buying, you obviously can't make any money. You have to generate some idea of how to get them to spend money somewhere. If I were you I would look into PPC options. Also, if you have a way to test them and access the analytics you will be able to see if it is enough to make the money you want/need. You might have to make some adjustments or look at other options, but that is a good place to start.
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Its enough, grant it your vistors are targeted and share a common interest (increases conversion rate). You should also look into getting into some CPA networks and posting banners. Offer to sell some banner ads/space on your site (heck, let me buy some of your space ;-)) You can make money off of a site getting 4,000 uniques a month. You can do so many things, I don't even have time to list them all. If you're collecting emails you can send weekly or monthly newsletters with tips, tricks, news, and offers to things your visitors may be interested in. The posibilites are endless. See, you don't have to sell anything at all if you dont wanna! |
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The amount of traffic you are getting is very good. I suggest you try and build a list from your visitors because they may only see your site once. Build a list and promote cpa offers to them.
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It's not as hard as you think it is Fireman. I run an e-commerce site that is actively looking for the exact demographics that you have as visitors. Selling advertising or participating in an affiliate program is certainly something you should look at. We have a good number of affiliates just like you who earn monthly based on sales referred from sites just like yours.
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