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Old 05-24-2011, 11:38 PM   #1
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OK, i know allot of people are wondering if this is still possible to do well i found a guy who does it and i wanted to share it with you all and if there is anyone here who can tell everyone the details it would be nice to know because i dont understand hoe google allows it, and here is the proof:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9625/adwordshack.jpg

now you have to be on google USA
The Keyword is: "proflightsimulator" <-- a clickbank product
you can see that he uses a domain.co.cc this domain redirects + iframing in some way to the merchant website + i noticed it is all cloaked with some java code!

would someone please explain how it is possible?
this guy dominates the entire 1st page,

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Old 05-25-2011, 12:04 AM   #2
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Everything you need looks to be in that code. Just gotta take it apart but it's not too hard to pull the cloak off.

Good thinking to say the least, I'm surprised adwords let the sites through.
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Old 05-25-2011, 12:21 AM   #3
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Here is the code from the first Adwords Ad at the top center of Google SERPs.

Take this code (URL) & decode here.



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<html>

<head>

<title>Pro Flight Simulator 2011</title>

</head>

<script language="JavaScript">

var x=unescape("%3c%46%52%41%4d%45%53%45%54%20%63%6f%6 c%73%3d%27%31%30%30%25%27%3e%3c%46%52%41%4d%45%53% 45%54%20%72%6f%77%73%3d%27%31%30%30%25%27%3e%3c%46 %52%41%4d%45%20%73%72%63%3d%27%68%74%74%70%3a%2f%2 f%37%38%32%61%32%31%2d%62%64%6d%74%70%38%6c%30%39% 35%61%6e%64%73%64%76%6a%30%64%2e%68%6f%70%2e%63%6c %69%63%6b%62%61%6e%6b%2e%6e%65%74%2f%3f%74%69%64%3 d%50%52%4f%46%33%27%3e%3c%2f%46%52%41%4d%45%53%45% 54%3e%3c%2f%46%52%41%4d%45%53%45%54%3e");

document.write(x);

</script>

</html>



After the above code has been decoded, here is what you are left with:


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<FRAMESET cols='100%'><FRAMESET rows='100%'><FRAME src='hXXp://782a21-XXbdmtp8l095andsdvj0dXX.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=XPXRXOXFX3X'></FRAMESET></FRAMESET>
[I edited the above finished code with X]

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wow, thanks for the quick reply...
how the hell google approve this????
these ads are there for ad-list 5 days now...
well, i bet he is making some money.....
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wow, thanks for the quick reply...
how the hell google approve this????
these ads are there for ad-list 5 days now...
well, i bet he is making some money.....

Apparently Google sucks at decoding javascript, lol.

I'm sure this guys Adwords will get shut down sooner or later.

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I just want to mention this here, though it was not asked

Using Google Adwords To Direct Link Clickbank = AdWords account Ban

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I just want to mention this here, though it was not asked

Using Google Adwords To Direct Link Clickbank = AdWords account Ban
No this is not true

Adwords to unacceptable landing page is Account Ban.
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No this is not true

Adwords to unacceptable landing page is Account Ban.
It happened to many Affiliates, including two of my friends. (Banned for promoting ClickBank products)

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Banned for promoting ClickBank products
That's because most Clickbank products are unacceptable.

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clickbank and adwords together, is like rolling the dice with the devil.

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Isn't direct linking okay on the content/display network?

And as for getting banned on the content/display network be difficult saying that they have to manually approve the ads being displayed? That is unless you changed it after it was approved.
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Using Google Adwords To Direct Link Clickbank = AdWords account Ban
Man oh man, I can't believe people believe this. Blackjack has it right: Adwords to unacceptable landing page is Account Ban.

People who say you can't direct link just don't know what they are doing or find out why they get banned. It's simply a matter of reading the rules. Having said that, most (not all) CB product pages I've seen plainly would not pass.

Ad for the OP's image link, all I see is three ads on top of the SERPs. There is no proof it is the same guy. Even if it is, it is three different sites (no problem there) but could be the same guy with three accounts. This to me is breaking the rules to dominate a keyword (at least not in the spirit of the rule) but if the same person uses different identities, there's nothing Google can do about it. But you have no proof it is the same person.

Content or search makes no difference. Text ads have to be approved either automatically or by a human when in review. All image ads have to be approved by a human reviewer, no exceptions. Changing your ad after being approved makes no difference because to the system, it's a new ad and will have to go through the review process.

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Hello:

I think he is talking about organic results and not Adwords. An ad in Adwords like this would not even get approved to run bacause they do not allow redirects.

What's going on here is cloaking. A black hat technique for sure. It's where the search engine spiders see one page (well optimized) and another page (the clickbank page) is shown to everybody else. This may work for a while, but when Google finds out, they will delist that domain for good. That's why they use throw away domain names. They get a new one and just start over.

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Man oh man, I can't believe people believe this. Blackjack has it right: Adwords to unacceptable landing page is Account Ban.

People who say you can't direct link just don't know what they are doing or find out why they get banned. It's simply a matter of reading the rules. Having said that, most (not all) CB product pages I've seen plainly would not pass.

Ad for the OP's image link, all I see is three ads on top of the SERPs. There is no proof it is the same guy. Even if it is, it is three different sites (no problem there) but could be the same guy with three accounts. This to me is breaking the rules to dominate a keyword (at least not in the spirit of the rule) but if the same person uses different identities, there's nothing Google can do about it. But you have no proof it is the same person.

Content or search makes no difference. Text ads have to be approved either automatically or by a human when in review. All image ads have to be approved by a human reviewer, no exceptions. Changing your ad after being approved makes no difference because to the system, it's a new ad and will have to go through the review process.
Lucid

I am glad atleast someone else agrees with me. People don't read Google rules. Google want to make money by selling ads but they want their customers (people who will click on ads) to have excellent experience. Think about it. How would you feel when you are searching for something and you are bombared with these kinds of ads.

These so called Gurus are partially to blame for this kind of understanding.
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I think he is talking about organic results and not Adwords. An ad in Adwords like this would not even get approved to run bacause they do not allow redirects.

What's going on here is cloaking. A black hat technique for sure. It's where the search engine spiders see one page (well optimized) and another page (the clickbank page) is shown to everybody else. This may work for a while, but when Google finds out, they will delist that domain for good. That's why they use throw away domain names. They get a new one and just start over.
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You are right about Adwords. The requirement is that URL in Destination field and URL shown in Google Ad must have same root domain. This domain must NOT redirect to other domain.
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This is basically a bridge domain. A domain that exist sole to redirect a user to another domain

It is against the rules and can easily get your account banned

Bridge page - AdWords Help


Violation of this policy may result in a range of actions, including the following:
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  • Automated suspension upon setup of new accounts (ban from Google AdWords)

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I don't know about this cloaking, how it works, or what that piece of code posted above is supposed to do. But I'm sure it has nothing to do with Adwords, which is what the OP's image is pointing to.

Blackjack, we seem to be few and far between. If people only took the time. The problem is not the so called gurus, although they don't help, it's people making assumptions and posting. It's hard to turn the tide when ten posts say one thing (that happens to be wrong) and just one saying the opposite.

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looking through the above script, it is just framing clickbank site on the given domain name. So the person is NOT redirecting anywhere.
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looking through the above script, it is just framing clickbank site on the given domain name. So the person is NOT redirecting anywhere.
yeah but it is still wrong to do by google,
and BTW he is sill up there and dominating the 1 2 3 spots on google adwords,
and i just assume it is the same guy with at least 3 google adwords accounts
because of the same method.
wow he is up there for more than a week now
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