keyword spamming

[eWebCats]

You know, I almost hate to admit this, but as long as I've been building websites, I've never really been clear about keyword spamming. I think it's because I should have joined this forum years ago so I would have been able to ask other web masters these questions. I know you're busy, so let me thank you in advance for taking the time to help my struggling puzzled mind. Quick questions;

1. On a website how many keywords can you use for each page, and not make it look like you're trying to spam google, bing, etc.?
2. Same as 1, but for do follow links how many keywords can you use for each link, and not make it look like you're trying to spam Search Engines?
3. Do 2 and 3 keyword phrases count as one keyword, or two or three keywords?
4. In relation to Question 3 would using a two word phrase like clogged drain, and then clogged, drain, would that be overdoing it?

[Aurele]

1. If you can read it and say it was written for a human being and not for a machine, it's good.
2. Same as 1. If you have 10 links with the same anchor in the same paragraph it's not good (I wouldn't read it).
3. Multiple keywords = keyphrase.
4. It depends, but usually no.

[CheapTrafficDude]

Well, if it's readable and doesn't look like you're trying to keyword "stuff" then you have nothing to worry about. I actually done a test the other day and increased my keyword density by 1.5% up to 2.7% and actually lost 3 ranks. It's 100% still readable but is obvious I'm stuffing. For example using weight loss...

Looking for weight loss? Look here for weight loss and when you experience weigh loss you will tell all your pals about your weight loss. This weight loss product guarantees your weight loss because weight loss is hard.

Yes, it is readable and to the "untrained" eyes, they woudn't understand why you're saying that word so many times but they still make out what you're saying but search engines are much different, they're not stupid and know what you're up to

A rule of thumb I use is 1% per 1,000 words. If you have 1,000 words, then 1% density is acceptable. Just as a personal guideline but I;m sure SEO experts have different opinions on density.

Hope this helps

[MandLoys]

In the last couple of years ppl said 1% kwd is the best. However I found that it doesn't really matter nowadays. Onsite SEO is important but not as important as it was back in the days. Aim to make the content readable for actual people and you won't get into trouble!

[eWebCats]

The keywords to be effective should be right around 2%. This I know as a fact. But my questions weren't about that. A formatted answer like Aurele is most helpful. Thanks Aurele and all.

[nimi67]

I am a newbie and enjoy learning from these forums......Thank you

[eWebCats]

Hey, good for you, but be prepared for a tough learning curve. Don't be swayed, it's all worth it in the long run. I've been at this for about 5 years and have not stopped learning, but am able to accomplish many goals, and am finally making money consistently!

[Susan11]

You should avoid unnecessary stuffing of the keywords in any of the write-up you submit on the web. it is called black hat SEO. You should at least go for some information available on the web. 4-5% keywords of the total content is good enough.