How difficult to outrank a wiki page with over 300k backlinks?

thedog · 06-04-2011, 10:56 PM

Hi guys, I'm looking at an EMD.org

It gets over 6000 exact searches a month, and has CPC of $2

The competition is all low, except for the number 1 spot being a wiki page... in Market Samurai it's showing all on page SEO very weak, all it has is over 300k backlinks.

Can a EMD with great on page seo outrank that, or would it always be number 2?

The domain is a problem/solution, and the wiki page is pretty general.

Jack Chase · 06-05-2011, 03:56 AM

It's possible but hard to say without seeing the keywords and Wiki page.

If the keyword was, for example, 'how to train your dog' and your EMD.org is howtotrainyourdog.org and the Wiki page that is #1 was about 'dogs' or 'dog training' even, then I would say with lots of backlinks and good on page SEO it would be possible to get to number #1.

Even so, you still get about 15% CTR for being in position #2, and if it's a buyer keyword with good volumes I would think this is still worth it personally. Especially if there is a chance that you could beat the Wiki page at some point.

Heavenstorm · 06-05-2011, 07:59 AM

I will do a check on spyfu to see if there are advertisers for the keyword first. If there are then I will proceed on

IM Ash · 06-05-2011, 08:03 AM

It is usually damn easy to rank outrank a Wiki with a tightly themed site that has an EMD. These wiki's usually rank naturally based on authority. And frankly I have no idea why people depend on a piece of software to tell them what is competitive and what is not. I've never used these types of software programs and I never will.

masterjani · 06-05-2011, 08:38 AM

If it is low competition,It is possible to beat any website.Just need some good onpage seo and backlinks.As this is having good CTR sure you can try it.

James- · 06-05-2011, 03:11 PM

I am assuming those 300k links are to the domain and not the page. Based on that it will not take too many backlinks to outrank a site just ranked on domain authority.

milton11011 · 06-05-2011, 04:36 PM

is it 300k to the exact page? no way.. right?

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IM Ash SEO Extraordinaire War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 503 Thanks: 158 Thanked 183 Times in 88 Posts	Re: How difficult to outrank a wiki page with over 300k backlinks? It is usually damn easy to rank outrank a Wiki with a tightly themed site that has an EMD. These wiki's usually rank naturally based on authority. And frankly I have no idea why people depend on a piece of software to tell them what is competitive and what is not. I've never used these types of software programs and I never will.

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Jack Chase HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London, UK Posts: 257 Thanks: 22 Thanked 23 Times in 21 Posts	Re: How difficult to outrank a wiki page with over 300k backlinks? It's possible but hard to say without seeing the keywords and Wiki page. If the keyword was, for example, 'how to train your dog' and your EMD.org is howtotrainyourdog.org and the Wiki page that is #1 was about 'dogs' or 'dog training' even, then I would say with lots of backlinks and good on page SEO it would be possible to get to number #1. Even so, you still get about 15% CTR for being in position #2, and if it's a buyer keyword with good volumes I would think this is still worth it personally. Especially if there is a chance that you could beat the Wiki page at some point.

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milton11011 Active Warrior Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 84 Thanks: 12 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: How difficult to outrank a wiki page with over 300k backlinks? is it 300k to the exact page? no way.. right?
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