Future of Scrapebox (backlinking)

[Seofarmer]

I finally got the chance to purchase scrapebox 2 weeks ago, and i have to say its an impressive app. However, I am not quite sure the future of this software as there seems to be a lot of plugins / filters around.

Any inputs will be appreciated:

1. Most WP blogs are nofollow.
2. The auto-approve WP blogs are usually crap (poor quality + already highly abused by others).
3. Plugins like Akismet prevent you from spamming.
4. Moderate blogs usually dont approve those comments

Once again, i just got scrapebox 2 weeks ago, didnt get a chance to play around with it much. I admit i am a total noob. The above are just concerns that I have.


Please advise. Thanks.

[arshavin]

I have just started watching the tutorials. I'm interested on people's opinions also.

[Seofarmer]

Originally Posted by arshavin

I have just started watching the tutorials. I'm interested on people's opinions also.

Great. Glad to hear I am not the only one that have these concerns

[thedude916]

Congrats on your purchase, it's an incredibly powerful program -- not just for backlinks but for many other tasks as well.

1) Correct.
2) Yes
3) Wouldn't worry about akismet -- just don't blast to your money site if you're that concerned.
4) It depends. If you spam super generic comments you'll get denied; however, I've heard some people coming up with creative ways of commenting. For instance, scraping blogs about the NBA finals and making a comment related to The Heat or Mavericks. Something that is relevant but sort of ambigious.

All in all, your conclusions about auto approve blogs are correct. I recommend building a ring of 2.0 properties around your money site and blasting those. I've had success with that formula.

But comment spam is merely the tip of the iceberg with this great program.

[arshavin]

I can see why its best to put some effort with the post to increase the chances of it being accepted.

Is it a bad idea to just create a super generic spammy treat and just blast it to thousands because they will stick somewhere?

[Seofarmer]

Originally Posted by thedude916

Congrats on your purchase, it's an incredibly powerful program -- not just for backlinks but for many other tasks as well.

1) Correct.
2) Yes
3) Wouldn't worry about akismet -- just don't blast to your money site if you're that concerned.
4) It depends. If you spam super generic comments you'll get denied; however, I've heard some people coming up with creative ways of commenting. For instance, scraping blogs about the NBA finals and making a comment related to The Heat or Mavericks. Something that is relevant but sort of ambigious.

All in all, your conclusions about auto approve blogs are correct. I recommend building a ring of 2.0 properties around your money site and blasting those. I've had success with that formula.

But comment spam is merely the tip of the iceberg with this great program.

So yeah, whats the point of using scrapebox for commenting/creating backlinks IF most WP blogs are nofollow by default?

I thought the main purpose of scrapebox is to create backlinks afterall? (or am i wrong?)

[Seofarmer]

Originally Posted by thedude916

All in all, your conclusions about auto approve blogs are correct. I recommend building a ring of 2.0 properties around your money site and blasting those. I've had success with that formula.

But comment spam is merely the tip of the iceberg with this great program.

Do you mean promoting my ezinearticles with my backlinks on it, rather than my landing pages directly?

How will that help my landing pages / main site in terms of SERP?

[nicktyler]

Scrapebox=spam... Spam=bad...The end...

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by nicktyler

Scrapebox=spam... Spam=bad...The end...

Uh, intelligent.

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by arshavin

I can see why its best to put some effort with the post to increase the chances of it being accepted.

Is it a bad idea to just create a super generic spammy treat and just blast it to thousands because they will stick somewhere?

No, it's not bad at all. On auto approved blogs the comment doesn't matter really, as long as your anchor text is there.

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by Seofarmer

So yeah, whats the point of using scrapebox for commenting/creating backlinks IF most WP blogs are nofollow by default?

I thought the main purpose of scrapebox is to create backlinks afterall? (or am i wrong?)

I've seen big SERP increases from nofollow links. Although these might pass very little link juice, what you make up for in lack of quality is sheer quantity.

You can also scrape blog engine blogs which comments are do follow.

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by Seofarmer

Do you mean promoting my ezinearticles with my backlinks on it, rather than my landing pages directly?

How will that help my landing pages / main site in terms of SERP?

Backlinking your ezine article wouldn't be a bad idea; however, creating a few free blogs on blogger, wordpress, squidoo (among the dozen plus others) and then scrapebox blasting those is the strategy I prefer to use.

[nicktyler]

Originally Posted by thedude916

Uh, intelligent.

Thanks for noticing

[nicktyler]

Originally Posted by thedude916

what you make up for in lack of quality is sheer quantity.

This goes against everything I have ever heard from any experienced SEO.

[Seofarmer]

Originally Posted by thedude916

I've seen big SERP increases from nofollow links. Although these might pass very little link juice, what you make up for in lack of quality is sheer quantity

You can also scrape blog engine blogs which comments are do follow.

I thought nofollow DOES NOT pass ANY juice at all? (i am really confused about this one)

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by nicktyler

This goes against everything I have ever heard from any experienced SEO.

k bud.. your displeasure with scrapebox is noted here.. I dont think you've talked to many experienced people with SEO, no need to keep trolling the thread.

[Seofarmer]

Originally Posted by thedude916

Backlinking your ezine article wouldn't be a bad idea; however, creating a few free blogs on blogger, wordpress, squidoo (among the dozen plus others) and then scrapebox blasting those is the strategy I prefer to use.

So if i create a site on blogger/wordpress for example, and put my main site domain on it, then spam my blogger/wordpress links on other blogs, i get more link juice that way?

So in another words, it goes in the following order:

Scraped blogs > Blogger/wordpress (free host) > my main site

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by Seofarmer

I thought nofollow DOES NOT pass ANY juice at all? (i am really confused about this one)

It doesn't pass page rank. However, SERP position and page rank are two differen't things.

[arshavin]

Will i not risk being sandboxed if you go on a spam mission with this tool?

How many comments per day would you advise?

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by Seofarmer

So if i create a site on blogger/wordpress for example, and put my main site domain on it, then spam my blogger/wordpress links on other blogs, i get more link juice that way?

So in another words, it goes in the following order:

Scraped blogs > Blogger/wordpress (free host) > my main site

Right. Create a layer of 2.0 properties with relevant content. Those properties link to your website. Scrapebox blast those properties. You're creating a layer of protection around your site doing this.

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by arshavin

Will i not risk being sandboxed if you go on a spam mission with this tool?

How many comments per day would you advise?

If it was that easy to sandbox a site, don't you think everyone's competitors would be doing it?

I'd say depending on the age of the site I don't place more than ~200 a week to it. That's directly to your site.

I'd blast more to your properties... maybe ~1000 a week or so.

[nicktyler]

Originally Posted by thedude916

k bud.. your displeasure with scrapebox is noted here.. I dont think you've talked to many experienced people with SEO, no need to keep trolling the thread.

Just so im clear. Spamming the internet is a good thing and is a sustainable SEO practice (I do understand that currently it has provrn gains fro some and penalties for others ).

[arshavin]

Ok well i'm gonna get some comments going. I mix it up right, some blog comments linked to my homepage, some to product 1, some to product 2? etc

[thedude916]

Also when I say ~200 per week, I mean approved comments; auto approved or otherwise.

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by arshavin

Ok well i'm gonna get some comments going. I mix it up right, some blog comments linked to my homepage, some to product 1, some to product 2? etc

Yes, that's a strategy I use for my clickbank / cpa offer pages. Works well.

If it's a site that you're trying to keep the footprint pristine I only blast to 2.0 properties.

[arshavin]

By that do you mean a seo website?

[Provaltech]

I never suggest you using any tool for posting. Manual posting is the best practice. Because in the manual posting you can find the relevant stuff and reply according to the requirement.

[thedude916]

Originally Posted by Provaltech

I never suggest you using any tool for posting. Manual posting is the best practice. Because in the manual posting you can find the relevant stuff and reply according to the requirement.

Manual post the highest PR blogs, blast the rest. There's a place for both manual and automation.

[dagaul101]

Automated tools has long been a bone of contention for many blog admins, and it's hoped Google's new +1 ranking would force people to create content the user would like to visit

[bobbyp21]

Originally Posted by Seofarmer

Do you mean promoting my ezinearticles with my backlinks on it, rather than my landing pages directly?

How will that help my landing pages / main site in terms of SERP?

Link juice gets passed to your Money Site from High Page Rank buffer sites.

[bobbyp21]

Originally Posted by nicktyler

This goes against everything I have ever heard from any experienced SEO.

If all your backlinks are Do Follow Google can tell. That is not a natural thing in the internet world so you best have some no follow backlinks in there too. Plus, no one that I've seen no for sure about No Follow and Do Follow helping. There are plenty of stories of page 1 Google with the majority of No Follow backlinks. Its Googles secret recipe and it changes when they want to. Some day Forum profiles may be worthless but they aren't right now. Do what works while it works.

[nicktyler]

Originally Posted by thedude916

Manual post the highest PR blogs, blast the rest. There's a place for both manual and automation.

Thats fair enough. I can aggree with this.

Originally Posted by bobbyp21

If all your backlinks are Do Follow Google can tell. That is not a natural thing in the internet world so you best have some no follow backlinks in there too. Plus, no one that I've seen no for sure about No Follow and Do Follow helping. There are plenty of stories of page 1 Google with the majority of No Follow backlinks. Its Googles secret recipe and it changes when they want to. Some day Forum profiles may be worthless but they aren't right now. Do what works while it works.

That comment was about Qualtiy vs Quantity not Do-follow vs No - follow.

It is best to have a wide range of links in your profile from different sites, types of sites and do/no follow. Only not sure if it is more beneficial to have all value PR links rather than just high. (although that is pretty hard to acheive on any scale)

[mcconnon12]

Use SB to harvest a solid list of linking opportunities, sort them by pagerank, and save them to a text file, then manually do your links after reading the content. Check approved comments to see if you can get away with anchor texts as your name. Don't overdue it though, something like The Plumbing Guy, might work.

[timpears]

Originally Posted by Seofarmer

So yeah, whats the point of using scrapebox for commenting/creating backlinks IF most WP blogs are nofollow by default?

I thought the main purpose of scrapebox is to create backlinks afterall? (or am i wrong?)

It seems to be a common misconception that 'nofollow' links are of no value. Matt Cutts has stated that Google pays very little attention to the 'nofollow' tag any more. If you don't have any 'nofollow' links, then your links will not look very natural, so you need some.