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| The Wordbay Guy War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010
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Surely not, my 1000th post already – I spend WAY too much time on here! Anyway, WF has helped me a lot, and the SEO forum has some great knowledge shared on it (if you can cut through the large amount of nonsense and contradictions you hear, ha!). So I want to give you a little case study for a site I launched back at the beginning of January so you can see a different way to doing SEO and ranking your sites - it’s nothing new or revolutionary, and some won’t like it, but, well, it works for me, so take it or leave it! How I started I registered the .org for an EMD relating to a niche sports product. Let’s call it hockeyboots.org (it’s NOT!) – the .net and .com were both taken unfortunately, and both on page one, one autogenerated, one very thin on content. The rest of the competition was an eHow (barrghhhh) a forum post, an Amazon page and a retailer product info page ranking no.1 (good content). Only about 2900 global exact searches, but hear me out – that does NOT ALWAYS MATTER! GKWT says 22,000 broad matches globally and the niche has a huge number of product-related keywords – a lot more than 22,000 searches, I bet. The CPC is only about $0.60 but that doesn’t matter as I plan to monetize with affiliate products that fetch much more than that – Amazon, eBay etc. and I will be going for high volume in any case. What happened After 6 months I now rank no. 4 for the main EMD keywords, having overtaken the .com (it expired! I am trying to acquire it), the Amazon and the eHow (in your face!!!). Yes, you CAN still rank on page one with an EMD with no backlinks. The no. 2 is easily within reach, no. 1 might be a BIT more tricky, but no problem, because I am pushing around 50 Google searches per day for this “new” site, almost all for an amazing array of long-tail keywords, plus my main EMD keywords, and this is growing almost exponentially by the day. Any new post that I add gets instantly crawled, cached and indexed by Google, and starts ranking straight away for different related long-tails. And I achieved this with almost no backlinking except a couple of forum profiles/sigs in related forums I am active in and REAL comments on related blogs (about 3 comments!). So how did I do it? Well, some people are going to hate this but… QUALITY CONTENT!! Hear me out – we are not talking an encyclopaedia here – this is ‘just’ a microniche, I only wrote about 4 longer articles (static Wordpress pages) in the space of 6 months, occasionally updating the content of some of them along the way. However, these are killer articles. The plan was always for them to be the best articles on the subject anywhere on the net. I happen to know a bit about "hockey boots” because I play “hockey” (not the real niche!), but I still had to do a bit of research, and you can too, though a topic you are interested in is always better. My articles explain hockey boots better than ANY site out there (I know this for a fact!) and basically consist of something like:
Again, hockey boots is just an example! But this is not rocket science, these are simple, but very well researched articles over 1000 words that answer questions people will have about hockey boots when they are just starting, with images too. And I wrote them slowly, when I had time, over a 5-6-month period. Used a VERY basic, plain white framework theme, almost no plugins. And just watched it creep-creep up the rankings, right through all the Panda updates. Oh, and NO affiliate links or ads until I was on page one! I am still not earning from the site because I am not in a hurry, and most of the search traffic is hitting the earliest, informative articles I wrote – my search-engine bait, if you like. I am not patient generally, but this suits my style of picking things up every now and then when I feel like it. I have only just started writing product posts recently, just one or two a week, when I find time, and like I said, they are all getting instantly indexed and appearing in the SERPS for related buying terms. In other words, I made an authority site in a nice, smaller niche with manageable competition. The ONLY authority site in the niche! Isn’t that where we all want to be? I now know that any post I write on a related product will rank for product-type searches that convert well and I now have a massive earnings potential there to be built on. You can do this Now, you hate writing “quality content”, right? It's much easier writing/outsourcing a $2 article and thrashing it with backlinks to get the same result. Well, it might be for you, and I am still tempted to do that sometimes. But what is easier, writing 4 GOOD articles on an interesting subject over a period of a few months (or paying $20 each for them), or messing around with the usual tedious backlinking techniques, many of them little more than spam? I know which I’d rather do, because the latter approach may get individual pages to no. 1 for a limited range of keywords. But the former approach gets my site authority, which is incredibly powerful once you have it and gets me ranking for shedloads of keywords. Sure, 6 months is a long time, but you think I wasn’t doing other stuff over that time?! So why not consider this approach the next site you build? Here’s my “formula” for EMD ranking success, if you like:
And that’s basically how you get a microniche EMD seeing some proper traffic – don’t agonise over keywords, keyword density, what plugins to use, etc. etc. And don't write shoddy keyword-stuffed fluff articles and then start hurling backlinks at it and spending all your time on forums asking "Is my site sandboxed?" and "Do nofollow links count?". If you want to rank no. 1 for "garden gate hinges” just write the best 4 or 5 darn' articles anyone ever has on garden gate hinges and you bet you are going to be ranking page one before you know it with none of that mindnumbing backlinking! OK, that’s it from me, I will answer any questions but remember, there is NO “secret” to this, just go and DO IT and see the results! |
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| Plundering the Web War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , , .
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Did you know this thread was indexed instantly and ranks #1 for Surely not, my 1000th post already Paul |
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Hi, I have some keywords on page 1 of google (ranging from #3 to #10) and I do not have an EMD. Using a subdomain of one of my old domains. So you do not have to have an EMD to be on page 1, but probably it helps. Good story, thanks for posting and congrats on 1000th post. |
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| The Wordbay Guy War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010
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| TheVidMaster Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Midsyap
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half a year with no income.. its too long..
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| Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA
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Great stuff! Thanks! Sure people will complain this is slow, but what I've seen with my brief IM period is that those sites that rise slow and steady are immune to all Pandas and GodZillas! One question, how about outgoing links? Do you link out to authority sites in the niche? Another small tip from me that may help your 'On Page Only' campaign! Enable and encourage comments! Since you are really talking to people and giving them the answers they can't find elsewhere, you should be able to get them engaged. With your long valuable articles, people are already spending a lot of time on your site. These help with reducing the bounce rate, average time spent on the site and all the other good stuff. Google is probably taking that in to consideration in deciding your rankings! Have you looked at your analytics account? Any idea what these figures may be? I'm guessing a bounce no more than 70% and an average time of a few minutes spent on the site per visit! Getting people to comment (and answering those) will improve those parameters even further and Google will recognize the 2 way communication and reward you even further. This is something eHow doesn't have (as far as I know) and soon Google will realize you are offering more value than eHow! Thanks again for a great post! Chucky P.S. A little grey hat tactic I use to get people to start commenting is to make that first comment (may be a bit of a controversial one to agitate people a bit) |
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| The Wordbay Guy War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010
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| I totally understand where you're coming from, but Chucky put it well - rank a site by this method and you will never have to worry about any Google update ever again! I told you, while my other sites were dancing around during Panda 1, 2, 3 whatever, this site NEVER WAVERED, just kept rising, rising. I know, you want to be earning far quicker with your site but you have to bear in mind, I was doing PLENTY of other stuff during this time. In fact I TRIPLED my online earnings in the same period with other projects (my software products, Adsense-based sites etc.) I don't think I did more than 5 hours' work on this site in total! So if you were doing this all the time, you wouldn't worry about the time-frame, you would have lots of sites climbing up the SERPS all the time! I also do what you probably do - create a minisite, start blasting it with all kinds of backlinks and sure, I have got these one page one and earning some money (with, like ONE keyword). But I spent HOURS on that stuff - it's a constant pressure to keep building backlinks, and watching your site Google Dance, disappear for weeks on end, reappear etc. I don't really enjoy that stress very much - this was very pleasant and relaxed for me! If I build some more niches sites soon (I am still working on a few big keywords, so don't want to start any new sites), I will definitely consider doing it this way again. And by the way, I could PROBABLY have done it quicker if I had done a little backlinking - maybe some "white-hat" stuff like good article sites, like John Xfactor used to suggest with his method. I think the XFactor does still "work" - it just takes a little longer... |
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Hey Chucky, props again for your legendary thread! Regarding outgoing links, funnily enough, I didn't put any on there Nada, zilch, not a single one. Honestly never thought of it! I really think I got this one on the strength of the content. However, I do that with my regular mini-niche sites, link to a competitor's site, but not for the same keywords or page, pretty crazy but seems to help ![]() Comments - yes, that's a good one and I DID encourage comments right from the start, so I have had to keep on top of the spam a bit. Actually I had very few comments - maybe I do need to, ahem, "create" some comments, although this site is almost like my "white-hat baby" so I am reluctant to do anything to sully it, he he! Re: bounce rate, I only put Analytics on there the other day (was too slack before ) and I am getting a 60% bounce rate and people are spending 1:40 on my site on average, so I think you are right. I expect bounce to fall further now (it has started already) that I have started finally putting affiliate links on there, since they had nowhere to go before . However, I have a microniche that is doing quite well that has only 43% bounce rate and a similar time spent on-site and I don't think the content is THAT amazing (though it's not the usual MFA fluff) - go figure! I am pretty sure from what I have seen, though, that bounce rate IS being factored in in some way.Thanks for your input - beating the eHow was a very good feeling, since it was only a few weeks ago I started a thread asking "Can you beat eHow?" and getting very mixed replies. You are right, it is easy to write more engaging content than eHow - I now know a very useful piece of information: see an eHow on page one for my search terms and I KNOW I can rank page one | |
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You missed the point. He was indicating to you that the fact that you ranked number four for a long tail with relatively little traffic or competition with some forum backlinks doesn't mean your strategy can translate to others in other niches. Its pretty easy to rank for terms no one else is trying to rank for. If I knew your niche I could probably outrank you in a few weeks with some good linkbuilding. | |
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But about competition levels, I agree, that was one thing I did not emphasise in my posting - of course you are not going to rank for "car insurance" this way, this is more suitable for low-comp niches, IF you are intent on ranking for that single main keyword. Most of us are obsessed with getting ranked for this one keyword, to the exclusion of all others, when in reality we could be working on authority content and picking up tons of relevant long-tail traffic and not worrying all that much about the main EMD keyword (though you might well get there naturally over time anyway). I am not saying everyone should do that, it's just another way of skinning the cat. Of course you could beat me out with heavy backlinking, but you wouldn't bother because you would perceive the niche as not being worth it, since with that approach you only care about a limited set of "main money keyword/s", and with my example those are not in and of themselves even that lucrative, it's the massive of long-tail that builds up this way that provides the value, and my experience with micro-niche keywords is that they tend not to provide this. One of my nicely-earning micro-niche sites gets over 65% of its traffic JUST for the "money keyword" which is great, but kind of silly/risky from a business point of view. Who knows, that could even be a ranking warning flag for some future 'Panda' - overoptimised sites. Anyway, what I really want to point out is that producing quality content COULD be far easier for many newbies to do and see some success than following this, that and the other backlinking method that Google might penalise tomorrow. | |
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pretty much and its a good custom when someone starts a thread implying that people shouldn't worry much about backlinking. I don't have to do too much backlinking to beat a site with few forum links. you got into a niche with low competition but thats all. I congratulate you on doing something but it could be misleading to others. writing up a how to like its something that can be emulated by many others is misleading . As it is even with that weakness you are just at 4 after 6 months. So don't take it personal he was just poiinting out that weak competition can get pages to rank easily and it doesn't validate a strategy even based on content. | |
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I'm stuck behind a double listing from consumersearch dot com (trying not to give any links to my competitors ). Their title tag, meta description, on page factors... nothing is optimized while my page (not the domain) is very well optimized. But their authority is hard to beat, but I like to think it's a matter of time unless Panda or some GodZilla sends me to oblivion.Good stuff! Keep it up! Chucky | |
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Awesome input...and totally accurate. The internet is FULL of useless garbage. I think if you had a goal to write 1 article every 2 weeks on that site and had 12 quality articles you might as well count on people referring your site word of mouth...good content is good content period end of story. Get into the IM game for the long run and you'll be rewarded in the long run.
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