Google Panda Destroyed My Business

[gearmonkey]

Originally Posted by VladWorks

I hate to say that if your business was destroyed by panda then your methods were flawed to begin with.

Our clients rankings increased with Panda not dropped.

Panda rewards good and proper SEO.

I understand that SEO is getting harder and more complex. If you struggle in this area you really need to push forward on other traffic methods while you figure out the new SEO game.

Hate to say it, but your logic is so flawed that I don't even know where to begin.

How are autoblogs stealing content without giving backlinks to the original source "proper"? Many who were hit by Google did things the right way, yet are getting outranked by scrapers...

Another misconception you have is ultimately, "proper SEO", is nothing more than high-quality and appealing content to be shared. Google doesn't want links spammed all over the interweb; and their algorithm manipulated. They want your content to be shared by others naturally.

People who spew off none-sense and never been through the Panda update really pisses me off. Good websites are hit... sites that should be hit are not hit. What does that say about your clients websites? They might fit in the "should be hit" category.

[ProvenViral]

You should look towards other alternatives - I have 1 website doing 5,000 unique views per day and climbing with unique content.

[VladWorks]

Originally Posted by gearmonkey

Hate to say it, but your logic is so flawed that I don't even know where to begin.

How are autoblogs stealing content without giving backlinks to the original source "proper"? Many who were hit by Google did things the right way, yet are getting outranked by scrapers...

Another misconception you have is ultimately, "proper SEO", is nothing more than high-quality and appealing content to be shared. Google doesn't want links spammed all over the interweb; and their algorithm manipulated. They want your content to be shared by others naturally.

People who spew off none-sense and never been through the Panda update really pisses me off. Good websites are hit... sites that should be hit are not hit. What does that say about your clients websites? They might fit in the "should be hit" category.

Would love to be enlightened on my flaws. Maybe I am wrong.

As for my "misconception" of "proper seo" How do you know our methods? I dont place high value on article links or mass distribution of articles. Sure its part of our internal system but not the be all and end all of the system.

SEO is about link diversity and creating a quality website that follows what Google is looking for.

Too many people get stuck in old methods and fail to adapt to what is going on in the way people search.

Im not hear to ruffle feathers but when I see people posting that Google is destroying your business it makes me wonder if their business had a solid plan to begin with. We work hard to keep our clients sites from dropping in rankings year round.

Did some of them get hit by Panda...yes....as I said originally most did not and even increased in most cases.

In cases where we did drop off I was mostly able to find out why and we are working on fixing the issues.

I think too many people get stuck doing the same things over and over when it comes to SEO and it costs them in the end. We have been diversifying more and more to keep our clients stable. With just a little research you can see what Google is doing now and where it is heading in the future.

[William Paul MaGee]

Originally Posted by FrFai

I think Google loves WordPress.

One of my site went from #1 to #500 in SERPS on 6th June.

I started this site in January with 500words Hompage Unique content(cheaply written for $4.5) and with one post of 500 words unique as well. Ofcourse it has privacy, about and blah blah pages. It's 5 pages website.

It was making sales so I changed Hompage content in May, and the old content I kept it as a post.

On 18th/19th June it came back on its position. I didn't do anything. And its now PR3 after the Google PR update.

I have another WP blog. Again 5 pages. It has very good content on it and some quality backlinks. I started this in end of April and its currently ranking #1 for my KW beating AMAZON. Its PR4 after the Google PR update.

Google does seem to love Wordpress, but even Wordpress won't help much if the content stinks.

In your case, it was a fantastic comeback jump in the SERPS! Unfortunately, not everyone shares your success.

It must be that you have all of the right elements in place to make the Google Gods happy proving that it CAN be done in the post Panda world.

Great Job!

WP MaGee

[dagaul101]

Many people are being hit with the Google Panda, but in its core it hopes to encourage website admins to create sites targetted at real people

[TigerUK]

Originally Posted by mbmehmet

Everyone has to start somewhere. Whether you start at $15 or $2. I called my empire of sites a business from the get go when I was earning 50p a day. It's not what you earn that makes a business, it's what you put in.

But back on topic, yep, google can kiss my ass. Go bing, GOOOOOO.

Yeah agreed, everyone has to start somewhere, but when you never had a real business and making peanuts $15, and it goes downscaled to $2. You can hardly call it "destroed my business". There was nothing to destroy.

You're wrong on the second point, business is about making money, money is absolutely the single most important factor in success or failure.

This isn't called hardworking trade, this is called the money making trade. If you want to do the hardworking trade, sign up to national service and build railways and break rubble into stone or something. Plenty of hardworking there for you to get stuck into.

Originally Posted by coronaborcalis

Not at all mate, I am one of the lucky guy who gets the bliss from google. Here is the proof. my site gets back to SERP after the doom days on 6 June. Before sending reconsidering letter make sure that your site follows google guidelines.

https://www.google.com/support/webma...er=35769&hl=en

LOL. reconsideration request my ass. This was just a google panda update.. I had a site that was sandboxed in March, it reappearted on serps in Jun 6 for 1 day, and disappeared and the reappeared in June 17th Just like your site. except my site was sandboxed to begin with, yours wasn't.

This was also the case with a number of other people on w**k**f**e. <--ghey censoring

[mbmehmet]

"The etymology of "business" relates to the state of being busy either as an individual or society as a whole, doing commercially viable and profitable work. The term "business" has at least three usages, depending on the scope — the singular usage to mean a particular organization; the generalized usage to refer to a particular market sector, "the music business" and compound forms such as agribusiness; and the broadest meaning, which encompasses all activity by the community of suppliers of goods and services. However, the exact definition of business, like much else in the philosophy of business, is a matter of debate and complexity of meanings."

Straight from wiki itself. Your definition might not be that of others therefore although entitled to your opinion, don't make it as a statement as the end all and be all. What I will agree on is that there IS a difference between that of a business being a profitable business and one that isn't. That's the ONLY difference and even then both are still essentially a BUSINESS.

Hardwork reaps money, again, your definition of hardwork may not be that of others, again, your opinion, not fact. What may be peanuts to you could be almonds for others. If you had any idea about what it takes to start and run a business then you would know everyone starts from somewhere. Hard work isn't reserved for just labourers, it's what's needed to achieve anything. From your comment alone I get the impression that if a boulder hit you in your face you wouldn't bother getting back up.

I didn't write my original comment to make you out a fool, but you have no right telling someone he didn't really have a business. Telling me I am wrong on my second statement shows me that you are not only foolish, but arrogant too. Tell me you don't agree, but don't tell me I am wrong, otherwise I will be forced to drop my wallet on you and then we will see what's peanuts and what's not.

P.S You were just raped by bipolar mario ;-)

Originally Posted by TigerUK

Yeah agreed, everyone has to start somewhere, but when you never had a real business and making peanuts $15, and it goes downscaled to $2. You can hardly call it "destroed my business". There was nothing to destroy.

You're wrong on the second point, business is about making money, money is absolutely the single most important factor in success or failure.

This isn't called hardworking trade, this is called the money making trade. If you want to do the hardworking trade, sign up to national service and build railways and break rubble into stone or something. Plenty of hardworking there for you to get stuck into.

LOL. reconsideration request my ass. This was just a google panda update.. I had a site that was sandboxed in March, it reappearted on serps in Jun 6 for 1 day, and disappeared and the reappeared in June 17th Just like your site. except my site was sandboxed to begin with, yours wasn't.

This was also the case with a number of other people on w**k**f**e. <--ghey censoring

[WareTime]

Originally Posted by Fenderkid

I have sites that have not dropped a lick in almost 18 months with NO work so it isn't adsense or Google that creates the problem.

I'm in same boat. One of my sites doubled in traffic within a month of Panda hitting. If you dropped in traffic, it's on you 99% of the time.

[gwrsteam]

I have had it with dancing to the google tune. It is now way out of tune, even with very successful online marketers. I was a newbie 8 months ago. I worked hard on my site. I knew my subject as I was a sufferer myself. I just wanted to pass on my knowledge to other sufferers. Yes I posted a few Amazon ads, but I didn't expect to make big money from them. My site began to build traffic. 100 per day, 130 per day, 250 per day. Then suddenly...... nothing. Apparently Google had decided that my site wasn't providing a quality visit, what ever that is! I just don't know what they want. My website is focused on a niche that I know all about because I have suffered with the condition all of my life. My website has over 15 totally unique articles written by me taken from my personal experience of this condition. I have since added two product reviews to help my readers. Yes I have a couple of ads on there to try and make a few dollars, but the aim of the site was to assist fellow sufferers and to try and help them if I could. Google have applied some sort of blanket policy which sweeps aside good and bad sites. My potential readers are now left with websites that will feed them rubbish facts to try and make a dollar. Really well done Google. You have become too big for your own good now.

[Mike Linley]

I am thinking the OP and others are blaming google and not taking responsibility for what they have done. If they would have built a legit and real business where users love their sites and content and share it then they would not have lost any business. Even GOOGLE suggests you use social marketing to brand your business. PEOPLE need to stop relying on google for their entire income and business. IT'S JUST FOOLISH and goes against the age old saying "DO NOT PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET!!" Just my personal opinion but has served me well over the years and I could care less what google does or does not do!

[radivoj]

Well you are not only one Google knock down 6 of my sites so far since this Google slap over 800K sites got hit for "unnatural links"...

[lexionar]

What funny is these so called Google sandbox is not admitted by Google staff like Mike Cutts himself. Yet, we have seen many sites experiencing significant drops or some sites might as well deindexed completely from the big G.

I think we better off trying to find other traffic sources and not relying 100% from organic G traffic.