Domain Name Keywords & Duplicate Content

consultant1027 · 06-30-2011, 11:30 AM

It is a known fact that one significant ranking factor on Google is if the keywords are in the domain. Granted this factor can be heavily outweighed by a multitude of other ranking factors but nonetheless it is factored in. This thread is not to discuss the importance of this factor.

Many businesses may go the route of choosing a unique, memorable domain for branding purposes, Amazon or Google being the most famous that come to mind. If you search for 'insurance' the #1 site currently is Allstate not insurance dot com.

BUT, what if you are a small start-up business that is about to launch a brand new website? For example, let's say the company is for an event planning service and it is called BLAMBO. Let's assume after some keyword research the most popular phrase is 'event planners'.

In my opinion the optimum strategy is to host the website on blambo dot com (for branding purposes) and host it on eventplanners dot com (for SEO, assuming it is available). All the business collateral (business cards, letterhead, advertisements, brochures) would publish the site address of blambo dot com.

However, for SEO purposes, eventplanners dot com would be used. Not only does the domain provide an advantage, but it increases the chances the inbound link anchor text will contain the keywords instead of just containing the word BLAMBO.

I see two challenges in this strategy though and am interested in people's opinions.

#1 - Duplicate Content Penalty. This is easily avoided by either (a) making the content significantly different between the two sites, or if there are budget constraints that prevent that, (b) instruct the search bot not to index the BLAMBO domain

There is a downside to (b) though. If someone searches for 'blambo' on Google, the main site will not come up. In fact I've tested this with a 1-month old website, and because the company is not yet showing up in any directories, it is very hard to find. Maybe over time this won't be an issue after there are more inbound links. But in the short-run, would a possible solution be to create yet a third domain: blamboplanning dot com and have it redirect in a Google-friendly way so that it comes up for the search 'Blambo' but you are redirected to blambo dot com and Google still does not index blambo dot com still? I'm not sure there is a way to do that without appearing to Google as a doorway site and getting penalized? But I suppose one could argue, any time/money you save not creating unique content for blambo dot com is sort of lost by creating content for this third domain. So maybe the answer is to list in directories as soon as possible even if the site isn't up yet. yellowpages dot com comes to mind.

#2 - Dilution of inbound linking - Probably the more significant of the two 'challenges' is preventing dilution of inbound linking. Essentially this strategy can only prove successful if the advantage of the keywords in the domain will overweigh the decrease in inbound links due to some linking to blambo dot com instead of linking to eventplanners dot com instead of all of them to one or the other. I think that a good SEO would have enough control to insure the vast majority of links went to the SEO site domain to the point it would make this a non-issue, especially for a small local business.

I would expect some might argue this solution is not optimal from an online branding aspect. But frankly, when you hit a home page, do you pay attention to the brand (big logo on the page) more or the domain in the URL bar more? I would say the brand. If someone bookmarks the SEO domain site, big deal, the still find their way back to the site. If they try to verbally refer someone to the site they are going to say go lookup Blambo or go to blambo dot com and they will still find the site. I think the lowest probability is the SEO domain being pushed around via word of mouth (go to eventplanners dot com) but even so, that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Again, I'm not looking to discuss how big a factor keyword domains are. For sake of discussion in this thread let us assume all other ranking factors are equal.

06-30-2011, 11:30 AM	#1
consultant1027 Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 77 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Domain Name Keywords & Duplicate Content It is a known fact that one significant ranking factor on Google is if the keywords are in the domain. Granted this factor can be heavily outweighed by a multitude of other ranking factors but nonetheless it is factored in. This thread is not to discuss the importance of this factor. Many businesses may go the route of choosing a unique, memorable domain for branding purposes, Amazon or Google being the most famous that come to mind. If you search for 'insurance' the #1 site currently is Allstate not insurance dot com. BUT, what if you are a small start-up business that is about to launch a brand new website? For example, let's say the company is for an event planning service and it is called BLAMBO. Let's assume after some keyword research the most popular phrase is 'event planners'. In my opinion the optimum strategy is to host the website on blambo dot com (for branding purposes) and host it on eventplanners dot com (for SEO, assuming it is available). All the business collateral (business cards, letterhead, advertisements, brochures) would publish the site address of blambo dot com. However, for SEO purposes, eventplanners dot com would be used. Not only does the domain provide an advantage, but it increases the chances the inbound link anchor text will contain the keywords instead of just containing the word BLAMBO. I see two challenges in this strategy though and am interested in people's opinions. #1 - Duplicate Content Penalty. This is easily avoided by either (a) making the content significantly different between the two sites, or if there are budget constraints that prevent that, (b) instruct the search bot not to index the BLAMBO domain There is a downside to (b) though. If someone searches for 'blambo' on Google, the main site will not come up. In fact I've tested this with a 1-month old website, and because the company is not yet showing up in any directories, it is very hard to find. Maybe over time this won't be an issue after there are more inbound links. But in the short-run, would a possible solution be to create yet a third domain: blamboplanning dot com and have it redirect in a Google-friendly way so that it comes up for the search 'Blambo' but you are redirected to blambo dot com and Google still does not index blambo dot com still? I'm not sure there is a way to do that without appearing to Google as a doorway site and getting penalized? But I suppose one could argue, any time/money you save not creating unique content for blambo dot com is sort of lost by creating content for this third domain. So maybe the answer is to list in directories as soon as possible even if the site isn't up yet. yellowpages dot com comes to mind. #2 - Dilution of inbound linking - Probably the more significant of the two 'challenges' is preventing dilution of inbound linking. Essentially this strategy can only prove successful if the advantage of the keywords in the domain will overweigh the decrease in inbound links due to some linking to blambo dot com instead of linking to eventplanners dot com instead of all of them to one or the other. I think that a good SEO would have enough control to insure the vast majority of links went to the SEO site domain to the point it would make this a non-issue, especially for a small local business. I would expect some might argue this solution is not optimal from an online branding aspect. But frankly, when you hit a home page, do you pay attention to the brand (big logo on the page) more or the domain in the URL bar more? I would say the brand. If someone bookmarks the SEO domain site, big deal, the still find their way back to the site. If they try to verbally refer someone to the site they are going to say go lookup Blambo or go to blambo dot com and they will still find the site. I think the lowest probability is the SEO domain being pushed around via word of mouth (go to eventplanners dot com) but even so, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Again, I'm not looking to discuss how big a factor keyword domains are. For sake of discussion in this thread let us assume all other ranking factors are equal.