Microsoft&Baidu

[kimseo]

Today Microsoft signed a deal with the biggest Chinese search engine, Baidu, to offer Web search services in English. I believe this deal will be helpful for both Bing and Baidu. Definitely, It gonna increase Bing's search market share. what you say guys?

[yukon]

Originally Posted by kimseo

Today Microsoft signed a deal with the biggest Chinese search engine, Baidu, to offer Web search services in English. I believe this deal will be helpful for both Bing and Baidu. Definitely, It gonna increase Bing's search market share. what you say guys?

What's the English count in China, 57?

[RW]

I hope it increases bing's share of the search market, too early to tell if this will make a difference or not; maybe if we're lucky they will be able to give google's search monopoly some real competition.

[JSProjects]

Isn't baidu Google's biggest competitor in China? I don't know much about them, but I think I recall reading an article on how they're actually Google's biggest worldwide competitor. Not Bing.

Hope this makes Bing more competitive. Google is gaining waaaay too much power.

[yukon]

Originally Posted by JSProjects

Isn't baidu Google's biggest competitor in China? I don't know much about them, but I think I recall reading an article on how they're actually Google's biggest worldwide competitor. Not Bing.

Hope this makes Bing more competitive. Google is gaining waaaay too much power.

I have owned stock in Baidu (BIDU) since they first went public in the US.

Baidu/China knocked the $hit out of Google Search in China, no joke! They literally ran them out of the country.

Google thought they would be slick (fail) & setup shop in Japan, then redirect China search traffic in/out of Japan. China shut that $hit down again, lol.

The monopoly that Baidu has on China search is massive! Baidu owns almost 80% of China search traffic.

Before I invested any money into Baidu stock I was watching the news & how Google was pissing of the China Gov., I invested 50/50 on Both Baidu + Google. Baidu is up over 700% (not a typo), Google is lucky to break even. In fact I dumped Google stock about 2-3 months ago, very poor returns.

China has the largest population on the planet, & Baidu owns that search traffic.

Last I heard Baidu was looking at expanding search into surrounding Asian countries.

The key to Baidu's success is the China Gov. they hate to let down their guard with foreign competition, they see the outside world as a threat to everything. They need that control, which only boost Baidu's strength in internet search.

Another China stock to watch is SINA, it's kind of like yahoo.

[kimseo]

Originally Posted by yukon

What's the English count in China, 57?

In China Baidu is getting about 10 million/day english search

[JSProjects]

Thanks for the overview yukon.

[kimseo]

Originally Posted by JSProjects

Isn't baidu Google's biggest competitor in China? I don't know much about them, but I think I recall reading an article on how they're actually Google's biggest worldwide competitor. Not Bing.

Hope this makes Bing more competitive. Google is gaining waaaay too much power.

In china Baidu has around 84% search market share and google has just around 15% market share

[yukon]

Originally Posted by kimseo

In china Baidu has around 84% search market share and google has just around 15% market share

Last I heard Google wasn't in China as far as Search? I'm in the US so I can't verify.

That 84% sounds right, I knew it was something around 80%. That percentage is just HUGE!

The amount of money a business could generate with 84% of the China search traffic, is just endless.

Wiki says that the population in China is 1,344,960,000, I would guesstimate that 1/2 of that number is online. Minus 16% is 564,883,200 that's over 1/2 a billion in traffic for a single domain.

[kimseo]

Originally Posted by yukon

The amount of money a business could generate with 84% of the China search traffic, is just endless.

Wiki says that the population in China is 1,344,960,000, I would guesstimate that 1/2 of that number is online. Minus 16% is 564,883,200 that's over 1/2 a billion in traffic for a single domain.

You are absolutely right!
Only China and HongKong traffic made Baidu World 5th Largest website

[Lucid]

Originally Posted by yukon

I would guesstimate that 1/2 of that number is online.

Actually, it's about 35% BUT projected to go over 50% by 2014. Still, a huge number of people online today and soon, more than population of North America (about 530 million today).

[ProvenViral]

That will definitely increase those shares - Baidu is still one of the top 10 websites in the world

[kimseo]

I believe Bing is getting ready to give some serious competition to Google

[paulgl]

This is just another rediculous step bt MS.
Who, I might add, have never earned a thin dime via their
online operations. Do you see a pattern?

This was a blip in the recent news that google+ was
the one creating a buzz.

With all due respect to Yukon and baidu...

Google owns the world. Baidu might own China, but China is
not an open internet. People forget that Hong Kong and
a few other areas are in CHINA, but are outside the rules of
"regular" China. Hong Kong is not another country. Macau is
not another country. And those are the places where the
money is made. Google has a stronghold there.

Add to the fact that if people really want to use google in China,
many options remain.

Remember, google got kicked out of regular China, and went on to
record profits. Go figure.

Google just stopped real time search and twitter. They know when
to stop a losing effort.

MS seems to chase a loser. Why, I don't know. They continue to
get their clocks cleaned by google and apple, but still do foolish
things.

Partnering with baidu is not anything earth shattering.

From what I have read in this forum, a lot of you have sites that
would be blocked in China anyway. Remember they censor, filter,
ban, and monitor in a take-no-prisoners attitude. Those that choose
to do things freely, will use google. Seriously. It's a country that
won't allow you more than one child. What do you expect?

Paul

[yukon]

I could care less about Bing, Bing is the equivalent of If MySpace had a search engine, lol, it's like a ghost town.

As far as Google hitting record earnings, If that's true (I don't see it) their stock still sucks from an investors point of view. Google YOY is +21.97%, Baidu is +115.94% for the same YOY. Investors money follows good earnings (Baidu).

Long term I do see Baidu expanding outside of China. Downside is the China monpoly that Baidu has won't follow Baidu once it travels outside of China.

Still Baidu is growing very rapid, compared to recent Google growth.

Originally Posted by paulgl

This is just another rediculous step bt MS.
Who, I might add, have never earned a thin dime via their
online operations. Do you see a pattern?

This was a blip in the recent news that google+ was
the one creating a buzz.

With all due respect to Yukon and baidu...

Google owns the world. Baidu might own China, but China is
not an open internet. People forget that Hong Kong and
a few other areas are in CHINA, but are outside the rules of
"regular" China. Hong Kong is not another country. Macau is
not another country. And those are the places where the
money is made. Google has a stronghold there.

Add to the fact that if people really want to use google in China,
many options remain.

Remember, google got kicked out of regular China, and went on to
record profits. Go figure.

Google just stopped real time search and twitter. They know when
to stop a losing effort.

MS seems to chase a loser. Why, I don't know. They continue to
get their clocks cleaned by google and apple, but still do foolish
things.

Partnering with baidu is not anything earth shattering.

From what I have read in this forum, a lot of you have sites that
would be blocked in China anyway. Remember they censor, filter,
ban, and monitor in a take-no-prisoners attitude. Those that choose
to do things freely, will use google. Seriously. It's a country that
won't allow you more than one child. What do you expect?

Paul

[spesialis]

Baidu is growing rapidly because more and more chinese use internet

There will be market saturation when 90%+ chinese use internet (don't know when), by that time the growth will stop

If I have to put my money, I'll put where the best brains is, which is google

Maybe people need entertainment (facebook), but people always need information (search)

[ngseosept]

Microsoft's search engine, Bing, will appear on Baidu search result pages by the end of the year. While Baidu dominates the Chinese search market, it has been recently trying to improve its English language search results.