Warning from Google Webmaster Tools on Artificial Links

[LilBlackDress]

I read of people getting sites deindexed that were in webmaster tools and their other sites (not in webmaster tools) were untouched so this is problematic for sure

on the other hand

lets say a site is slapped and the owner is not in Google webmaster tools. Then the owner would be totally clueless as to why. But if the site is in webmaster tools and the owner gets an email, explaining the reasons or at least indicating something is wrong ...doesn't this merit a reason why webmaster tools may be a good thing?

[Matt.Lake]

Originally Posted by Davioli

Did they do anything to your websites? Did your rankings get affected?

Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso

Nop. Nada.

Then why are you getting so mad Fernando?

Of course that's not to say that you won't be affected soon.

[thebitbotdotcom]

Awwww...Yeah! Time to start bombing some competitors, baby. Let me put on my mask, it's about to get ugly.

We're about to retool all of these massive backlinking tools...

[gnd5969]

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

I read of people getting sites deindexed that were in webmaster tools and their other sites (not in webmaster tools) were untouched so this is problematic for sure

Hey, I was one of those.

I had a bunch of sites that were listed in Webmaster Tools back in 2009 that got de-indexed (not sandboxed).

The sites that I never got around listing in Webmaster Tools were never affected.

Most were prime domain names and were on the front page of Yahoo and Bing so I held on to them and about 2 months ago (2011) they were all re-indexed.

Do a search and you will find that big G employees have their hands in Webmaster Tools.

Also, all these sites have always had adsense.

I will never use Webmaster Tools or Analytics again.

[derekwong28]

This is really important news.

I was told by an acquaintance who knows Matt Cutts personally that one way that Google looks for unusual linking patterns is whether you have got a "natural progression of PR links" e.g.

A site with a natural progression of links should look like this e.g. 1 PR5 links, 4 PR4 links, 10 PR3 links, 24 PR2 links, 60 PR1 links, and 100 PR0 links.

Wheres as site that is involved in unnatural linking practice may just have 4 PR6 links to the site.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by derekwong28

This is really important news.

I was told by an acquaintance who knows Matt Cutts personally that one way that Google looks for unusual linking patterns is whether you have got a "natural progression of PR links" e.g.

A site with a natural progression of links should look like this e.g. 1 PR5 links, 4 PR4 links, 10 PR3 links, 24 PR2 links, 60 PR1 links, and 100 PR0 links.

Wheres as site that is involved in unnatural linking practice may just have 4 PR6 links to the site.

this is just silly.

[london710]

have u considered that the link in sig is the problem? i mean, i can se that you have made almost 3000 posts on warriorforum, so wouldnt every post on every page include your links? Thats 3000 links pointing to a few sites. from the same domain.. That hardly looks natural. Just saying.

[Josh MacDonald]

Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso

Forgot to add owners of automated tools will love this approach from Google... Now THEY CAN destroy their competition using tools or Fiverr gigs.

How cool is that Google?

That's true, once Google finally decides the creteria at which sites will be punished at, then everyone will do that to their competitors.

[Serenity090]

Might be Google Team Thinks Differently?

Crappy Links = Clean Links in Eyes of Google?

As you have never done these crappy links before...So, why not give it a try?

By the way, i suspect about internal backlinks your site have (Because that's only thing you can fix - that's what they want?)

[ggmi]

Ahh, I hate it when google plays with our heads. I personally think that google de-indexing sites that get a lot of ANY kind of backlinks (again) would be like police giving away free fire guns to delinquency. I really don't think they'll go that route.

Besides, I also think that google has ways of knowing whatever information they need about any site weather they are in or out of google webmaster tools or google analytics. Using their tools will just give them "premission" to tell you... "AHA!! I know you're doing this and that because I can legally spy on all your website actions!!".

I know people who heavily use automation proggies like Senuke and EVO2, have their sites on both google tools and doing just fine.

I really think that the problem might begin if you're unlucky enough to get your site(s) personally inspected by any google employee.

What do you guys think?

[wolfmanjack]

Originally Posted by paulgl

I hardly ever check my rankings. I check for the bottom line: Money.

I do check my PR, but that only changes a little.

I do check out cpanel stats frequently. Gives me a whole lot
of neat info. Having never used analytics, I don't know if they
are comparable. I like cpanel to tell me where my last 100
visitors came from, and, what words and phrases were searched
for to find my site. I tweak to my advantage. That means, I think
it's crazy when people say they rank #1 for such and such keyword.
I go to to cpanel, and notice 200 visits came from google using
50 different words and phrases. I don't give a rat's hat that I
rank #1 for X-keyword.

What do I really need analytics for? It won't tell me how to make
more money.

July has started off better than June, and June was my best adsense
month ever. So I must be doing something right.

My backlinking is done mostly via my own content: blog posts, internal
linking, new content, squidoo, and, 4 other forums that I am active in.

I have never seen the need to get masses of backlinks from useless places.
I've got better things to do.

Paul

Google analytics would show which if the 4 forums you post on generate the most traffic so you could concentrate your efforts. It is good for new people like me that are trying to learn SEO to see where are efforts are bearing fruit and which are a waste of effort. Having said that an SEO friend of mine told me not to use them because when we do we tell google every thing we are doing with our sites. I m not sure that they can't figure it out anyway but he says why hand them the information on a sliver platter. He suggested an alternative program but i can't remember what it was. The price he quoted me was way too high for me to afford right now anyway.

[commoditytrainer]

Unless there is something isn't being said, it does sound strange the Google would do that. How are your serp's in GWT? Have you responded back to Google to asked them if the really did sent the information? Very strange.