Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis

rattan007 · 07-18-2011, 06:08 PM

Hi Guys,

Just came across another Page Rank Update today. Can't say it is a rollback. As the page rank updated for some of websites is still same and for some of them went down or up. It looks strange.

Some interesting data is shown below.

Following data is for different websites:

June Update - 0 to 4 and now n/a (A profile page on website)
June Update - 0 to 4 and still 4 (Internal page of a website)
June Update - 3 to 4 and now again 3 (Home page)
June Update - 2 to 3 and now 4 (Home page)
June Update - 4 (no change) and still 4 (No change)

Following data is for same website (single domain):

Homepage - June update - 3 to 4 now 3 again
Internal page of same website - June update - 0 to 4 and still 4
Many other internal pages are still same page rank as updated in June update.

It looks strange.

How is it working with you guys? And what do you think about this update?

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August 05 2011 - Saw changes in PR today again. Another Page rank update is here?

DonMecca · 07-18-2011, 06:25 PM

It seems like a roll back to me, many of the sites that I noticed have rolled back to the original PR number.

high_plains_drifter · 07-18-2011, 06:26 PM

2 sites went back to what they were -_-

JSC_TX · 07-18-2011, 06:33 PM

My site rolled back from 4 to 3. Disappointing.

rattan007 · 07-18-2011, 06:40 PM

Some of my websites have higher page rank for internal pages than home page

rattan007 · 07-18-2011, 06:41 PM

Need some expert warriors insights on this topic.

RevSEO · 07-18-2011, 06:44 PM

This is without a doubt a new update and NOT a rollback.

I have hundreds of sites with PageRank, ranging from smaller all the way up to very large PR sites.

I have sites that have received NEW PageRank #'s outside of what they were on the most prior update. Thus - no way it was only a PR rollback.

Some PR did "rollback" but others kept it, or received new PR. I also have internal pages that changed/gained PR that didn't have it on the last two updates.

Valera · 07-18-2011, 06:46 PM

Ok,

I run a large private PR blog network for my own backlinking needs.

I had a lot of sites with PR3 and 4 that went to mostly PR2 last PR update and some went from PR3 to 4 and one went from PR4 to 6 lol

So all in all, some sites lost PR and only a couple gained PR

I am checking PR in my entire network right now to see the latest update.

Will post some feedback shortly

seoguru1 · 07-18-2011, 06:47 PM

I have hundreds of domains... I am seeing diverse effects. Most seem unchanged, some up and some down... I do not think its a rollback whatsoever... however I wonder if google is going to be doing regular PR updates, as this is the first time I have seen 2 PR updates so close to each other

RevSEO · 07-18-2011, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seoguru1

I have hundreds of domains... I am seeing diverse effects. Most seem unchanged, some up and some down... I do not think its a rollback whatsoever... however I wonder if google is going to be doing regular PR updates, as this is the first time I have seen 2 PR updates so close to each other

This is the same thing I was thinking, I'm wondering if this is something new. My gut tells me that this is an exception to fix whatever they "broke" the last go around.

Valera · 07-18-2011, 06:55 PM

On My Initial Analysis it looks like a half-rollback.

I got some PR back, but some sites have still decreased by 1 rank.

Some domains that went up in pr initially last update have gone back to the way they were before and 1 site increased to PR5 from PR4

I think there was a bit of a screw up last PR update somewhere as I noticed ALOT of sites across the web, mine and other peoples that went to PR2 across the board.

Im sure others would have noticed a lot of sites become PR2 from 0 and from 3 to 2

RWilson · 07-18-2011, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattan007

Some of my websites have higher page rank for internal pages than home page

What kind of tool do you use to check all of your sites pages?

Mike Anthony · 07-18-2011, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSEO

This is without a doubt a new update and NOT a rollback.

I think you misunderstand what a rollback would be. it would Not be a roll back to the past it would be a roll back to what it would be now if there were not something screwy about the last PR UPDATE.

The last PR update in June had some strange numbers. Some site that went to PR4 from 0 would not have normally got that PR (sorry for the people selling WSOs - and sorrier for those who bought them- on how to bump your PR overnight). They just didn't have the links for it. Some other sites dropped in Pr when they had the links to be higher than what they were.

Now today those pages that had been PR4 got rolled back to whatever they would be at this time. they may qualify for PR1 but its still a roll back from that Strange PR update a month ago.

Mike Anthony · 07-18-2011, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seoguru1

. however I wonder if google is going to be doing regular PR updates, as this is the first time I have seen 2 PR updates so close to each other

Possible but unlikely. they have been downplaying the importance of PR too much to start updating it every month. Its more likely that either the june update was buggy OR they are playing around with the PR to make people less reliant on it and to throw a big wrench in the link buying game that is often based on PR.

emigre · 07-18-2011, 07:28 PM

All but 1 of mine rolled back to the previous PRs.

BarryWheeler · 07-18-2011, 07:29 PM

Just sit back and enjoy folks. Google is obviously making some adjustments.

PR is nothing to get your pee hot over. It is what it is. No matter how much you complain, it's not going to change.

rattan007 · 07-18-2011, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWilson

What kind of tool do you use to check all of your sites pages?

Good question. If some one knows such tool?

I use SEObook toolbar, and checked PR by visiting internal pages of my sites.

mazdak · 07-18-2011, 08:11 PM

How come internal pages have higher page rank?

snhostsn · 07-18-2011, 08:27 PM

My internal pages have higher PR too. I have been building to them, but also building a lot to the homepage for naturalness. I have an internal page of a clients site that is still a PR5. It went from a 0 to a 5 and it is a page that I built just a few months ago. The homepage went from a PR2 to a PR4 in the last update now it's a PR2 again. I know it doesn't really matter... But with no broad updates for almost a year... it's wild what's going on.

Sumdor · 07-18-2011, 09:01 PM

Two of my sites underwent changes yesterday.

one was reinstated PR3
other rose from PR2 to PR3

Strange

rattan007 · 07-18-2011, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazdak

How come internal pages have higher page rank?

rinor81 · 07-18-2011, 11:50 PM

One site of mine was up from PR 3 to PR 4 the last update and today it's back to PR 3....

danoctav · 07-19-2011, 12:12 AM

2 of my sites changed yesterday PR,after last update(the other remained with the same PR) :
1st site increased from PR2 to PR3, yesterday taked again PR2
2nd site down from PR2 to PR0 , yesterday received PR1

ARVolund · 07-19-2011, 04:03 AM

PR is Page Rank not Site Rank. It is very easy to end up with a internal pages with higher PR than the home page. I have quite a few of them and have see lots more. It all depends on the link profile of the pages in question. Now most people end up getting more links to their homepage but having internal pages with higher PR than the homepage is a lot more common than you think, both before and after this last update.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazdak

How come internal pages have higher page rank?

Quote:

Originally Posted by snhostsn

My internal pages have higher PR too. I have been building to them, but also building a lot to the homepage for naturalness. I have an internal page of a clients site that is still a PR5. It went from a 0 to a 5 and it is a page that I built just a few months ago. The homepage went from a PR2 to a PR4 in the last update now it's a PR2 again. I know it doesn't really matter... But with no broad updates for almost a year... it's wild what's going on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattan007

derekwong28 · 07-19-2011, 04:24 AM

The only reason for this update is for Google.com to become PR10 again.

guitarjosh · 07-19-2011, 02:01 PM

Strange.. I show google as n/a in my toolbar (WebRank SEO), which is where my PR3 site went to as well. But.. when I go to prchecker (dot) info, Google shows as a 10/10 and mine as a 3.

Who's right?

masterjani · 07-19-2011, 02:10 PM

one of my site dropped in last update,still remains at same PR.May be this update is for certain geographical areas

guitarjosh · 07-19-2011, 08:55 PM

My page rank is back tonight. Just a 1 day deal for me. Very odd.

rattan007 · 07-21-2011, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

My page rank is back tonight. Just a 1 day deal for me. Very odd.

This is really strange. Did anyone else find the same with website?

rattan007 · 08-04-2011, 03:10 PM

Hey Guys ! I saw an update on PR today again.. Did you see any changes?

IM320 · 08-04-2011, 04:37 PM

My pagerank jumped from 0 to 3 on one of my sites. It's only 4 months old! Perhaps my acute attention to quality content and backlinks has paid off.

rattan007 · 08-04-2011, 05:06 PM

Yes, Quality really matters a lot.. We have seen page rank gone up from 0 to 4 for a press release we submitted for one of our clients on 21st july. How quick was that. A press release have PR 6 published on 29th April.

IM320 · 08-04-2011, 05:08 PM

^^That's fantastic!

Google is obviously watching sites more closely. I guess that means no slacking off!

athenistic · 08-04-2011, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IM320

My pagerank jumped from 0 to 3 on one of my sites. It's only 4 months old! Perhaps my acute attention to quality content and backlinks has paid off.

I had a similar surprise - a site that's not even a full 2 months old and only a handful of articles on it hit PR2 today. Wonder what will happen when I actually get some time to work on it!

silverblade · 08-04-2011, 09:14 PM

My website rolled back from PR3 to PR2
but within a week it went back up to
PR3. All I did to fix it was added a couple
my backlinks to my website.

dagaul101 · 08-05-2011, 03:34 AM

Maybe the algorithm has a few bugs, but we hope they will be sorted out eventually, as many of the things Google tries to implement are for the users benefit

jalicia18 · 08-05-2011, 03:42 AM

This is the result of the new Panda Update. Some sites rollback and others gain high PR. My two blogs without promoting it, gain PR on Google without efforts to link build. My .com site is still on its rank. Fresh and unique contents that is valued by the latest updates.

Srinagarhouseboats · 08-05-2011, 04:48 AM

I think their was any mistake in the PR update before and google in now correcting that

mattbaehr · 08-09-2011, 12:05 PM

Many of my sites went from 0 to 3. Some were unique content, some autoblogs, some 1 page, some many pages.

View Poll Results: Your July Page Rank Update?
Rolled Back to as it was before June update	9	45.00%
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Changed with New PR (UP or Down)	8	40.00%
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07-18-2011, 06:08 PM	#1
rattan007 Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 42 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis Hi Guys, Just came across another Page Rank Update today. Can't say it is a rollback. As the page rank updated for some of websites is still same and for some of them went down or up. It looks strange. Some interesting data is shown below. Following data is for different websites: June Update - 0 to 4 and now n/a (A profile page on website) June Update - 0 to 4 and still 4 (Internal page of a website) June Update - 3 to 4 and now again 3 (Home page) June Update - 2 to 3 and now 4 (Home page) June Update - 4 (no change) and still 4 (No change) Following data is for same website (single domain): Homepage - June update - 3 to 4 now 3 again Internal page of same website - June update - 0 to 4 and still 4 Many other internal pages are still same page rank as updated in June update. It looks strange. How is it working with you guys? And what do you think about this update? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- August 05 2011 - Saw changes in PR today again. Another Page rank update is here?
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07-18-2011, 06:40 PM	#5
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RevSEO RevSEO.com High PR Links Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 853 Thanks: 26 Thanked 111 Times in 93 Posts	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis This is without a doubt a new update and NOT a rollback. I have hundreds of sites with PageRank, ranging from smaller all the way up to very large PR sites. I have sites that have received NEW PageRank #'s outside of what they were on the most prior update. Thus - no way it was only a PR rollback. Some PR did "rollback" but others kept it, or received new PR. I also have internal pages that changed/gained PR that didn't have it on the last two updates.
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07-18-2011, 06:46 PM	#8
Valera SEO Menace War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 149 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Social Networking	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis Ok, I run a large private PR blog network for my own backlinking needs. I had a lot of sites with PR3 and 4 that went to mostly PR2 last PR update and some went from PR3 to 4 and one went from PR4 to 6 lol So all in all, some sites lost PR and only a couple gained PR I am checking PR in my entire network right now to see the latest update. Will post some feedback shortly

07-18-2011, 06:47 PM	#9
seoguru1 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 120 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis I have hundreds of domains... I am seeing diverse effects. Most seem unchanged, some up and some down... I do not think its a rollback whatsoever... however I wonder if google is going to be doing regular PR updates, as this is the first time I have seen 2 PR updates so close to each other
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Valera SEO Menace War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 149 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Social Networking	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis On My Initial Analysis it looks like a half-rollback. I got some PR back, but some sites have still decreased by 1 rank. Some domains that went up in pr initially last update have gone back to the way they were before and 1 site increased to PR5 from PR4 I think there was a bit of a screw up last PR update somewhere as I noticed ALOT of sites across the web, mine and other peoples that went to PR2 across the board. Im sure others would have noticed a lot of sites become PR2 from 0 and from 3 to 2

07-18-2011, 07:28 PM	#15
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BarryWheeler HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Newfoundland Posts: 274 Thanks: 24 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts Social Networking	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis Just sit back and enjoy folks. Google is obviously making some adjustments. PR is nothing to get your pee hot over. It is what it is. No matter how much you complain, it's not going to change.
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mazdak HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 99 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis How come internal pages have higher page rank?

07-18-2011, 08:27 PM	#19
snhostsn Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 57 Thanks: 14 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis My internal pages have higher PR too. I have been building to them, but also building a lot to the homepage for naturalness. I have an internal page of a clients site that is still a PR5. It went from a 0 to a 5 and it is a page that I built just a few months ago. The homepage went from a PR2 to a PR4 in the last update now it's a PR2 again. I know it doesn't really matter... But with no broad updates for almost a year... it's wild what's going on.

07-18-2011, 09:01 PM	#20
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07-19-2011, 08:55 PM	#28
guitarjosh HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 475 Thanks: 42 Thanked 68 Times in 47 Posts	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis My page rank is back tonight. Just a 1 day deal for me. Very odd.

08-04-2011, 03:10 PM	#30
rattan007 Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 42 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis Hey Guys ! I saw an update on PR today again.. Did you see any changes?
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IM320 Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 25 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis My pagerank jumped from 0 to 3 on one of my sites. It's only 4 months old! Perhaps my acute attention to quality content and backlinks has paid off.

08-04-2011, 05:06 PM	#32
rattan007 Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 42 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis Yes, Quality really matters a lot.. We have seen page rank gone up from 0 to 4 for a press release we submitted for one of our clients on 21st july. How quick was that. A press release have PR 6 published on 29th April.
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IM320 Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 25 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis ^^That's fantastic! Google is obviously watching sites more closely. I guess that means no slacking off!

08-04-2011, 09:14 PM	#35
silverblade Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: Another Page Rank Update? or a Rollback? Some analysis My website rolled back from PR3 to PR2 but within a week it went back up to PR3. All I did to fix it was added a couple my backlinks to my website.
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08-05-2011, 04:48 AM	#38
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08-09-2011, 12:05 PM	#39
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