Buying expired domains with high PR

[Seofarmer]

I am thinking of buying some expired domains with high PR (like PR3 etc.), make a blog off it and link it to my 'money site'. Will that help in terms of passing the juice, or will Google know that its a completely new site and ignore the backlink from it etc.?

[stodary2000]

I will tell you nicer idea

you can buy an expired domains and add them to a free website for linkbuilding, it is called "authority link network dot com"

remove the spaces and replace the dot with .

and so you will be able to post articles in other blogs to get a link from high PR blogs

Remember, expired domains do not keep the PR for long time
I think maximum 2-3 months

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by stodary2000

Remember, expired domains do not keep the PR for long time
I think maximum 2-3 months

Thats not true. if you know what you are doing they need NEVER lose their PR

[markowe]

Back to the OP - definitely, this is a strategy many are using. These are what you would call "feeder sites". However, it is important to keep some fresh content happening on those feeder sites, and to try to get some nice backlinks to them too.

I don't do this for a very simple reason - I find that for the kind of competition I am tackling (not too great) it's quite sufficient to do the same thing, but on existing Web 2.0 platforms like Wordpress.com, LiveJournal, Blog.com etc. etc.

I have a number of those, plus other Web 2.0 thingies feeding into my "serious" money site - all quality content, updated from time to time, and it works a treat. And it's pretty white-hat too, and doesn't really take any more work than automated blasting, spinning and all that stuff. And I wonder if it isn't more effective, too, over the long run...

[stodary2000]

Hi Mike Anthony,
So how can I keep the PR

I bought one PR 3 domain and I had no experience buying any PR domains before so I checked the backlinks created to this PR domain, there was no links at all

then the site lost its PR 3 rank after 3 weeks

[Valera]

Well, I have discussed this in another thread and your site would have most likely gone from PR3 to 0 because it was a fake PR, not real PR.

Most make the mistake of buying fake PR domains, but that is the catch, sometimes its really hard to determine if the PR is fake or real.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by stodary2000

Hi Mike Anthony,
So how can I keep the PR

I bought one PR 3 domain and I had no experience buying any PR domains before so I checked the backlinks created to this PR domain, there was no links at all

then the site lost its PR 3 rank after 3 weeks

Oh vey. Sorry to hear bro but domain buying is not something you jump into without learning how to do it. Feel free to PM me . I have been getting this kind of question a lot.

Heres a very quick primer

1) you must do an info:domainname.com search on google and make sure the domain name matches the result domain. This helps spot faked PR
2)You absolutely MUST do a backlink check. Another scam is to aim a whole lot of bought links at a site . You buy it and guess what happens? the links get pulled and so does your PR
3) you must also do a history check of the domain. if its been dropped before then alot of its links might be before the drop and google does not count them(generally)

theres a lot more that goes into it because you can still do those and lose PR but once you know what you are doing then no the Pr will last for a long time.

[seoguru1]

not intended to be a plug for my WSO, but its exactly on topic. This is what we call homepage contextual backlinks. There are many people offering large networks of these types of domains ranging from as little as 10 sites up to several hundred.

On each of the sites, your url is listed on the home page. Many networks come with many high PR sites.

From my experience, these types of links make the biggest impact, but as you will learn, buying up, hosting, managing and backlinking these sites requires a lot of time and money. You can easily spend 1,000s or even 10,000s to make your network.

If your working on a smaller budget, it may be easier for you to get started by joining some of these networks, most if them are less than $100 and many even below $50. Getting listed on 25 high PR domains for $50 a month is a steal compared to buying them all up individually.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Oh vey. Sorry to hear bro but domain buying is not something you jump into without learning how to do it. Feel free to PM me . I have been getting this kind of question a lot.

Heres a very quick primer

1) you must do an info:domainname.com search on google and make sure the domain name matches the result domain. This helps spot faked PR
2)You absolutely MUST do a backlink check. Another scam is to aim a whole lot of bought links at a site . You buy it and guess what happens? the links get pulled and so does your PR
3) you must also do a history check of the domain. if its been dropped before then alot of its links might be before the drop and google does not count them(generally)

theres a lot more that goes into it because you can still do those and lose PR but once you know what you are doing then no the Pr will last for a long time.

This is really important. If you are scraping the domains from TDNAM (GoDaddy Auctions), I would guess that about 95% of the domains with a PR of 3 or greater are faked PR. You have to do what Mike says and check it. You can also use rankchecker.com to check this.

I learned the hard way several years ago about this. Thought I had hit the jackpot with 7 or 8 PR 5 domains for just a few bucks on GoDaddy. They were all fake. A couple of them did end up having a PR of 3 or so, so it wasn't a complete loss.

SEO SpyGlass is a good tool for doing the backlink check. Visit the sites with a high PR that come up and make sure they are not bought links that will disappear.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by seoguru1

If your working on a smaller budget, it may be easier for you to get started by joining some of these networks, most if them are less than $100 and many even below $50. Getting listed on 25 high PR domains for $50 a month is a steal compared to buying them all up individually.

Problem with that is that often times the owners of these pages load the pages up with too many links in order to recoup their cost. buying your own domains means you control the link juice without having to divide them up with another hundred links. So it really is apples and oranges .

You are not going to get the full effect on each domain. Plus to be frank if you are in a competitive niche and other webmasters get a wind of what you are doing to outrank them they will report the network and a bunch of the sites are going to get deindexed for selling links. Its just too easy to spot the way most sellers do it.

[seoguru1]

loading them up with too many links was a common problem, most network now limit the OBL. Buying and owning the domains provides greater control, but most small affiliates and website cannot purchase 100 domains with PR6, PR5 and PR4. To purchase even 25 of them will run about $5k investment, plus hosting and management, plus building more backlinks to maintain the PR.

Also, I have yet to see any of the networks get deindexed, or any site for that matter based on a complaint from a competitor... who are you going to report the problem too anyway that will actually do something about it? Not sure if you have ever tried contacting google before, but they are abysmal at response and taking action, nor do they have a complaints hotline

[DamenRabat]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Oh vey. Sorry to hear bro but domain buying is not something you jump into without learning how to do it. Feel free to PM me . I have been getting this kind of question a lot.

Heres a very quick primer

1) you must do an info:domainname.com search on google and make sure the domain name matches the result domain. This helps spot faked PR
2)You absolutely MUST do a backlink check. Another scam is to aim a whole lot of bought links at a site . You buy it and guess what happens? the links get pulled and so does your PR
3) you must also do a history check of the domain. if its been dropped before then alot of its links might be before the drop and google does not count them(generally)

theres a lot more that goes into it because you can still do those and lose PR but once you know what you are doing then no the Pr will last for a long time.

4. look the domain up in the whois database in order to see if there is any information of former drops.

There is a Firefox plugin called SEO Quake which gives you all the above mentioned information for any domain you want to check out.

Also, if you run a Google search on "fake pr checker" you´ll be presented with a variety of sites that you can paste the url into and that will give you the information required.

Good luck!

[Seofarmer]

I know 'scrapebox' has a plugin for fake PR checker.
Anyone uses it and find it reliable?

[curtainsandblind]

i agree with seofarmer. check it ....

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by Seofarmer

I know 'scrapebox' has a plugin for fake PR checker.
Anyone uses it and find it reliable?

It works to sort through a big list and quickly dump the obviously fake ones.

The problem is that Scrapebox will often find the PR based on the WWW domain name. However, the Fake PR checker will check the non-WWW domain.

Scammers know this. They will fake the WWW version but leave the non-WWW go. So the Scrapebox is telling you that a domain has a PR of 4 and the Fake PR checker will say that the PR is real.

The only thing real is the zero that the non-WWW is carrying.

Hope that makes sense.

[orvilleconnor]

it is okay to use and buy the high pr domain. many link builders and seo are doing this kind of strategy. but do not overdo it as it may cause your money website penalize by google

[umatt]

It could always happen that Google penalize your domain name - that is part of the game.
But I think Google dont because it is dropped - they detected selling links or overdone adsense stuff.

It works great to buy expiring domains and use them to push other websites.

[topdown]

If you do proper research you can find some great expired domains, a great idea is to make a network in your niche to promote your website. Advice: keep your network content relevant with your website and keep updating it with new unique content even after you're seeing improvements. To cover the cost of web hosting(multiple c-class ip's), and domain renewals simply sale some niche specific blog posts in your network. This type of backlinking is practiced by big guys also and has a magical impact on SERP's

[terryd]

You really have to do your homework before buying high PR domains. Just last week I purchased a couple to plug into ALN but after doing some more research and getting up to speed on how to buy proper PR domains I know those domains I purchased are going to lose their PR after the next update, in fact I purchased a PR2 (only $10) and after paying for it the very next day it lost it's PR, probably coincidence but still sucked.

Now however I'm confident I can purchase a domain and be pretty sure that it's going to retain it's PR

[Seofarmer]

Back to the topic;

Will purchasing an expired domain impact its initial age?
For example, if I plan to purchase a 8 years old domain, if I buy it today, will it show creation date as from 8 years ago, or today's date?

Most of all, does this even have any impact serps at all?

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by Seofarmer

Back to the topic;

Will purchasing an expired domain impact its initial age?
For example, if I plan to purchase a 8 years old domain, if I buy it today, will it show creation date as from 8 years ago, or today's date?

Most of all, does this even have any impact serps at all?

It's still an 8 year old domain.

[DPM70]

You can get a PR3 domain from scratch in a couple of months. Just post unique content every couple of days, social bookmark each post and throw a handful of other higher PR backlinks at each post. Doesn't take that much effort, although I'd make the posts 600 words plus each time. Relevant posts to the domain keywords that you are targeting, and have those keywords in the domain name.

edit - link back within post (with relevant anchor text) to your main domain a few times and link out to a few authority sites like Wikipedia, .gov research sites etc a couple of times.

Done

[tiara]

Thanks for sharing these info. I was thinking to buy a few expired domains myself and thought it was an easy way to get sites with high PR.

After reading your posts, looks like it is not so easy after all (not to mention the many loopholes). I'll stick to building site PR organically.

[oliva]

Very interesting info here. Just yesterday I've backordered PR5 9 years old domain to build a site on it. I've checked PR on 3 sites:

1.seomastering.com
2.cekpr.com
3.rankchecker.com

First two show it is Valid and last one - Fake...Whom to trust??? Should I delete backorder?

Looks like it is better just to go for good domain and age - maintaining PR seems too complicated...

[roynetwork7]

google will not know that is a new site. because google Refers to the DOMAIN and the backlinks the site have, even if the site is not active for a year, its still Refers to the power of the links.

[oliva]

Update: I've just checked again - rankchecker.com - adding www. before domain. This time it is Pagerank is Valid!

[Blessed88]

Hi,All I also need domains with high PR and backlinks to buy,if any one has let me know Thanks