Is Auto blogging Still Alive After Panda Update ?

[Dumkist]

Hello,

I wanted to ask if auto blogging is working these days after the Google panda update ?..I was thinking about giving this a try.

My plan is to buy one domain and build many sub domains each only focusing on one niche..I would greatly appreciate your tips and strategies.

[BloggingPro]

I would like to think that it is officially dead, but someone will be along soon to tell you that its not dead "if you just do it right!"

Whatever the hell that means. You will find many others on here who tout that you simply can't go wrong in a post-panda Google with original content. I am one of them. I would encourage you to look elsewhere.

[Dumkist]

So have you made auto blogs before ?

[entrepreneurjay]

Blogging pro summed it up pretty good if it is unique original content I do not see why not..... But I myself would much rather build 1 authority blog over 10 crash and burn low traffic blogs any day of the week.

I pick quality over quantity any day .......

[SpikeS]

Making a decent website/blog and adding relatively original and high quality content is not hard, so why would you auto blog? It's just pure laziness and that is not a solid foundation on which to build a business <-- which is how you should be thinking about it.

[JoshuaZamora]

What is NOT dead is blogs with uniqe quality content. If you are thinking you can set up an auto blog in 10 minutes and it will bring in loads of cash you will be highly disappointed.


And why put yourself in a position where your site can be taken down by google in the first place....assuming you do get good ranking

[lesterlim85]

Autoblogging cannot be said as being dead. I think it can be pretty much alive depends on how you view it. If you take content and post it on your blog directly, of course it won't work. But if you were to take the content, and use some time to spin the articles and make some changes, you will have content which is more "unique".

Take it as autoblogging the semi-automated way. My 2 cents

Cheers,
Lester

[davidjames05]

I agree...great answer!

[high_plains_drifter]

i have 1 autoblog and its running fine

it was 3000 visits per day before panda and now its climbing back up and is at approx 2400 visits per day

[MonopolyMan]

I run an autoblog for testing purposes. It's currently ranking well for a lot of keywords - including the main 3k exact $200 Amazon product term at #2 page 1. That's 500 unique words and hundreds of regurgitated crap.

[niffybranco]

Not going to argue with anyone, all I want to say is google is not the only source of traffic. There are a million and one ways to promote an autoblog without having to worry about pandas or farmers.

[YasirYar]

Originally Posted by BloggingPro

I would like to think that it is officially dead, but someone will be along soon to tell you that its not dead "if you just do it right!"

Whatever the hell that means. You will find many others on here who tout that you simply can't go wrong in a post-panda Google with original content. I am one of them. I would encourage you to look elsewhere.

Well technically speaking, if Google favors "unique" content, we can make content "unique" by getting a non-English article, translating it into another language, then into another and then back into English

Trust me, that kind of approach is something I still believe will work because it will be unique content.

I am sure there are many people still out there operating hundreds of auto blogs, which is making them a good chunk of change.

[JustFelix]

It still work, and will always work no matter what happens in the future. If its unique that is.

[simonbuzz]

After the Panda...Unique content is a must for a website..you won't be ranking with some copy paste article....And I can say for sure because I have a blog that I purchased for testing Google algorithm and my result shows that auto blogs are dead...I hope you got the answer...cheers

[Targeted Traffic]

One very likely possible scenario is that do not expect auto-blogging sites to rank high, not unless you take necessary steps and precautions to retouch or rewrite the articles imported or extracted from other websites. There is no absolute way to determine if Google is capable of differentiating contents that are spin or rewritten versus original content.

In any case, it still make sense from produc but only on sites that you are not expecting to build your list of customers or leads.

[Nathy Curiel]

Last time I hear Auto blog are dead. Especially when you are using adsense

[Viramara]

I have a friend who run an autoblog with adsense, the blog dropped to page 25+ after the Panda and he's kinda hopeless now. But I saw myself his content is crap.

Not a fan of autoblog. :P But I have an abandoned non-English blog with original content and it survived the Panda despite me abandoned it for like, 3 months. The visitors isn't decreasing, surprisingly. But I just updated it now, just in case

[adplus]

Autoblogging may work for some people, but writing unique and valuable content will always win out and generate more profit for you from advertisers or affiliate programs.

Short cuts may work some of the time for some people, but writing great content wins everytime.

[Rob Maggs]

I've used autoblogging for a few years.made a reasonable amount from adsense and some decent product sales too. However I've really come around to the unique content way of thinking, it does add value, so I'm turning my existing autoblogs into small quality sites.

[atwellpub]

I don't see why it wouldn't work. It's usually good for targeting low competition long tail keywords. And when paired with a good seo stat duplicate content can still make it's way out of the sandbox.

But automation over autoblogging is still a very good practice and can serve up some great niche blogs. (blogs line Engadget).

[Rsberg]

You will get every opinion under the sun when you post a thread like this. There are those that dont like autoblogging that will swear Google is on the verge of killing off all things auto and there are those who have had success with autoblogs pre and post panda, farmer...etc.

Your best bet is to do some research (here and other places too) and decide for yourself if it's something you want to do or not. One thread with mixed opinions wont serve as enough info to help you make an informed decision that you will be happy with later (regardless whcih way you go).

Best of luck!
Robert

[BloggingPro]

Originally Posted by YasirYar

Well technically speaking, if Google favors "unique" content, we can make content "unique" by getting a non-English article, translating it into another language, then into another and then back into English

Trust me, that kind of approach is something I still believe will work because it will be unique content.

I am sure there are many people still out there operating hundreds of auto blogs, which is making them a good chunk of change.

Something tells me (my vast experience with originally written content) that Google would rank originally content over spun or translated content now that we have a big Panda bear on our side.

Not sayings its a war or anything, but you can't argue with original content. My hard work pays off each and every month and gets easier with every month after that.

I would rather build my business on a SOLID foundation utilizing tried and true methods than have my sites sway like a boat without a sail in an ocean storm.

[Cosmit]

Originally Posted by lesterlim85

Autoblogging cannot be said as being dead. I think it can be pretty much alive depends on how you view it. If you take content and post it on your blog directly, of course it won't work. But if you were to take the content, and use some time to spin the articles and make some changes, you will have content which is more "unique".

Take it as autoblogging the semi-automated way. My 2 cents

Cheers,
Lester

Or, the time spent re-spinning that content, how about create something useful?

[PAP]

Originally Posted by entrepreneurjay

Blogging pro summed it up pretty good if it is unique original content I do not see why not..... But I myself would much rather build 1 authority blog over 10 crash and burn low traffic blogs any day of the week.

I pick quality over quantity any day .......

Funny you say low traffic crash and burn blogs

I know one or two guys who makes from 300-500 a day from their autoblogs some of them even due a lot better.

I'm pretty sure if I decided set up an autoblog it should be almost as easy as before the so called panda update to rank it. And get it to make money.

Every part of the IM world have been deemed dead at least once, but in 9 out of 10 cases the stuff aren't dead. It's just a marketing hoax to get you to buy their new shiny gimmick.

Content cloaking is dead? no

spun content? No it ain't dead either

blog comments for backlinks? No far from it

Article directories can still help you generate traffic and rank.

In 5 years people will say uhh normal non video content is dead.

Yeah right believe that and then I'll crush it with written content.

[boxoun]

My 2 month old autoblog I developed for testing purposes with 5k exact local is on front page with no backlinks.

Do I expect it to last? No

Am I surprised its on 1st page? Yes

[BloggingPro]

Originally Posted by PAP

I'm pretty sure if I decided set up an autoblog it should be almost as easy as before the so called panda update to rank it. And get it to make money.

Now wait a minute, you know for sure, or your just pretty sure? If I just do autoblogging "right" when I can make serious money? How exactly do you steal someone else's content the "right" way?

Translate it? Spin it? What is there "right" way to do this?

Also, I would also argue that all of my sites that run original content (even the adult ones--speaking strictly of text mind you!) will still be alive, kicking and riding the waves of page one while the rest of these autoblogs go the way of keyword stuffing.

[celente]

Google are sticking their chest out now, and beating it smiling as they look around.

I told 3 WF members to stop with their autoblogs, as I felt it was just another shiney object. And they told me to get lost.

Now I know 2 of them have lost their business auto blogs over night.

Why would you want to flood the internet with crap stuff anyway, google has never liked that, and you stealing other peoples content that is already out there.

How bout you set up a real blog, with real posts, and with real high quality content that is actually going to help and enrich peoples life??? I mean seriously? auto blogs were doomed to fail from day one!!!

Google has only even wanted high quality content, and they will still want this 10 years from now. That is what most people dont get. Most people chase after a moneyspinner (autoblogs) how about creating a real business....not just a money spinner.

Having a real business that will last for years is not hard to set up. Good luck to all the autobloggers out there, may you rest in peace. LOL.

[BloggingPro]

Originally Posted by celente

Google are sticking their chest out now, and beating it smiling as they look around.

I told 3 WF members to stop with their autoblogs, as I felt it was just another shiney object. And they told me to get lost.

Now I know 2 of them have lost their business auto blogs over night.

Why would you want to flood the internet with crap stuff anyway, google has never liked that, and you stealing other peoples content that is already out there.

How bout you set up a real blog, with real posts, and with real high quality content that is actually going to help and enrich peoples life??? I mean seriously? auto blogs were doomed to fail from day one!!!

Google has only even wanted high quality content, and they will still want this 10 years from now. That is what most people dont get. Most people chase after a moneyspinner (autoblogs) how about creating a real business....not just a money spinner.

Having a real business that will last for years is not hard to set up. Good luck to all the autobloggers out there, may you rest in peace. LOL.

My thoughts exactly. I would however like to add that there is a difference between an AutoBlog and a blog that is drip fed. No reason why you can't automate your posting, or even use an AutoBlogging tool like Carty's where you can import your original posts and have them auto-dripped that way.

[Steven Miranda]

I think autoblogs are certainly dead by now after the various QUALITY updates with Google.

[Greg Jacobs]

Im sorry about all the previous answers. I would catagorize most of them into the realm of "speculation"

bottom line, is that with the latest Panda update(s) some autoblogs went down and some up. with no net effect (actually same as every google update)

Autoblogs are typically used to target long-long-tail keywords by the thousands. things that maybe only 50 people a month are searching for, but if you have 5000 of those keywords on your site then you win through quantity. These types are sites are not effected. (anybody that tells you they were slapped, there is another who will tell you that they got raised)

Oh.. and dont believe whatever google "tells" you. what they say and what "works" have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

[larkin]

Originally Posted by high_plains_drifter

i have 1 autoblog and its running fine

it was 3000 visits per day before panda and now its climbing back up and is at approx 2400 visits per day

sounds good. It looks like autoblog is still working.

[aneel90]

I would like to say that they are dead, but I can't guarantee it, I have seen some pretty absurd websites getting rankings. Yes most of them have fallen but in a few instances they are still up there, but with the way things are going they will all be shot down.

[YellowGreenMedia]

Funny how people think Google is God, i have 10 .info domains with 4 autoblogs each, after the panda update i got hit on 3 domains, after i added a view thousand links on the 3 domains they all except one sub-domain came back and are still paying my rent, internet and car insurance and i'll even have some €€€ left for a beer

Don't belief people in forums like this, most of them don't know ****... do your own testing, that is very educational and fun... more fun then reading the opinions of people who think that Google is God, Mat Cutts is Jesus himself and the Google TOS is the holy bible of internet marketing... LOL

Think for yourself.

[TLCarroll]

Originally Posted by BloggingPro

I would however like to add that there is a difference between an AutoBlog and a blog that is drip fed. No reason why you can't automate your posting, or even use an AutoBlogging tool like Carty's where you can import your original posts and have them auto-dripped that way.

Dude! That IS autoblogging. Seriously, are you even reading what you write before you post it?

Autoblogging is THE ACT of AUTOMATING a blog. PERIOD.

It has NOTHING to do with stealing content or doing anything shady.

Yes, there are BAD autoblogs made with shady methods. There are also BAD NON-automated blogs made with shady methods.

AUTOMATION ONLY MEANS THAT AS MANY ELEMENTS OF BLOG BUILDING/MAINTENANCE ARE AUTOMATED USING SOFTWARE OR OUTSOURCING OR OTHER RESOURCES.

Sheesh

[BloggingPro]

Originally Posted by TLCarroll

Dude! That IS autoblogging. Seriously, are you even reading what you write before you post it?

Autoblogging is THE ACT of AUTOMATING a blog. PERIOD.

It has NOTHING to do with stealing content or doing anything shady.

Yes, there are BAD autoblogs made with shady methods. There are also BAD NON-automated blogs made with shady methods.

AUTOMATION ONLY MEANS THAT AS MANY ELEMENTS OF BLOG BUILDING/MAINTENANCE ARE AUTOMATED USING SOFTWARE OR OUTSOURCING OR OTHER RESOURCES.

Sheesh

Woo! Didn't mean to piss your wheaties this morning. Calm down. You said the exact same thing just in other words. Who'da thunk someone could have the same idea but say things differently?

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by celente

I told 3 WF members to stop with their autoblogs, as I felt it was just another shiney object. And they told me to get lost.

Now I know 2 of them have lost their business auto blogs over night.
Why would you want to flood the internet with crap stuff anyway, google has never liked that, and you stealing other peoples content that is already out there.

How bout you set up a real blog, with real posts, and with real high quality content that is actually going to help and enrich peoples life??? I mean seriously? auto blogs were doomed to fail from day one!!!

Google has only even wanted high quality content, and they will still want this 10 years from now. That is what most people dont get. Most people chase after a moneyspinner (autoblogs) how about creating a real business....not just a money spinner.

Having a real business that will last for years is not hard to set up. Good luck to all the autobloggers out there, may you rest in peace. LOL.

You just never give up do you Celente....

For every story like you mention about the 3 WF members there are just as many from those still succeeding with autoblogs post panda or any other update.

I am really sorry you failed with autoblogging when you tried it and to some extent I understand why you auto-bash but really man...give it a rest already.

You always say autoblogging is… stealing content, producing crap content, clogging up the net…blah blah blah

Then you break out your standard speech and tell people to….build a real business, post real content, post content that has value...etc etc.

You sound like a broken record man! What makes it worse is your condescending tone; seriously...you are not the God of IM, stop acting like it!

Just because you don’t like a particular method doesn’t give you the right to talk trash to those that ask questions about it or those that do use it. You really need to learn to be a better forum member. Posting your opinions is one thing, telling others to “rest in peace” comes off like you are a total jerk…if that’s the way you want to be seen then continue to post as you have.

Best of luck,
Robert

[Rsberg]

Originally Posted by BloggingPro

How exactly do you steal someone else's content the "right" way?

Who...besides you...said anything about stealing other peoples content?

You do realize that there are plenty of sources to get content from legally and ethically right?

Have you ever posted an article to ezine articles, put a video up on Youtube (without blocking it), submitted an answer on Yahoo Answers, posted a picture on Flickr (without blocking it)?

If so then you just allowed all of that content be legally and ethically used by autobloggers, don't believe me...read the fine print.

Those are just a few of the MANY legal and ethical sources of content available. There are so many out there these days that autobloggers don't have to resort to stealing content. If they are then I would venture to say they will be among those that fail.

[thebarksmeow]

Originally Posted by niffybranco

Not going to argue with anyone, all I want to say is google is not the only source of traffic. There are a million and one ways to promote an autoblog without having to worry about pandas or farmers.

It's funny how everyone ignored this post. This is the correct answer x10.

[Dumkist]

If we are using syndicated content that is not considered steeling or scraping correct ?

example. I place an ezine article on my site with all the authors links on it..that is not scrapping or steeling..news sites do it..why can't we ?

And do you think it would be ok to place adsense on sites with syndicated content ?

[oscarmike]

Hi guys, i have one question closely related to autoblogging and the google panda algo. What is the difference between an autoblog (using WP robot) and a syndication site (news site) in the eyes of an Internet Marketer and the mighty fat panda? i assume that the panda was created to hurt farmers, but i dont if it is hostile on syndicates (or can it even distinguish the two).

TIA

[Rua999]

[QUOTE=Matt Cutts is Jesus himself[/QUOTE]

lol that made me laugh i think il use this for my new signature!

[dialseo]

I feel like auto-blogs are an unspecific title for the brand of websites in question. I understand they typically are sites that run automatically by posting by themselves new content, like WP-Robot on a WordPress site.

However, using original outsourced content any site could become an auto-blog. From my experience it comes down to your ability to create a quality backlink profile supporting original content. If you can get those things automatically, then you'll do a-okay.