How big are your Micro Niche sites?

[Bulldozer]

How big is your Micro niche site (or sites)?

I've read that some people just slap one page, others go for a full blown website with lots of info on it.

How big is yours, and in case that you are running one of those super small one-page web sites: how long it's been lasting in the Top 10 on Google and how it does against competitors that are running bigger sites?

[That Guy]

I have five micro niche site, where three of them are still very new but my two older sites have over 30 pages while my newer ones only have about 10 pages. I plan on adding more and more pages to my sites consistently until they have about 80-90 pages each.

So far I have scheduled posts up until the end of September.

-Mark

[InTheMaking]

Originally Posted by Bulldozer

How big is your Micro niche site (or sites)?

I've read that some people just slap one page, others go for a full blown website with lots of info on it.

How big is yours, and in case that you are running one of those super small one-page web sites: how long it's been lasting in the Top 10 on Google and how it does against competitors that are running bigger sites?

Only 2,500 - 5,000 words of content, but 30x of these are bringing me in $300+ a day, so why complain?

[RayW]

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

Only 2,500 - 5,000 words of content, but 30x of these are bringing me in $300+ a day, so why complain?

lol just like two weeks ago, you said you were making $150/day, and now all of a sudden you're saying you're making $300?? Wow you are so full of sh*t...
How much are you willing to lie just to sell your stupid course?

[InTheMaking]

Originally Posted by raxr

lol just like two weeks ago, you said you were making $150/day, and now all of a sudden you're saying you're making $300?? Wow you are so full of sh*t...
How much are you willing to lie just to sell your stupid course?

haha actually your right, I am lying when I said I'm earning $300/day because last thurs I actually had a $394 day - ALL from adsense, 37 sites total.

I laugh when I make a post and I get this criticism, because they're from guys making maybe $5/day in a matter of 6+ months. Like you, for example

The reason why I have coaching in my sig is so I can use my coaching money to pay my online fee's every month and not take it out of my bank account.

I just hope 1 of my 4 student's i've had the past month sees this thread and comments, so I can laugh at you.

The increased $150-$300/day jump is simple.

Run 10-15 sites at once, order articles in bulk, have a backlink system laid out.

Rather than complain like the peice of sh*t you are, try it, and see how it works for you. You could imagine 10 or 15 websites all of a sudden ranking could have a huge impact on my revenue.

Honestly, this month will only be about $6,500 - $7,000. Why? Because for half the month they werent ranking.

Also, you want to know my past 4 months of earnings?

May - $28 - I only started my first website on the 16th
June - $890
July - $2300
Aug - $6500 - $7,000 estimated
Sept - $8,000 - $10,000 - another estimate, by the way production is going.

Right now I'm in the middle of creating 3 Affiliate websites, so production has slowed for the past week because I've never gotten into this.

What I'm trying to say is, don't be a douchebag and complain all the time about peoples success and actually try and make money yourself and put in the effort.

EDIT* - I want to make an example out of you. People like you spread all this information across the forum, who make nothing. That's right nothing. You start threads About exactly what to do, and how well everything works, what not to do, etc. Honestly, how the hell do you know what works if you've never ranked a site, and made any money?

My coaching may cost money, but at least get people started and on their feet with the right information.

[ExploringInfinity]

Originally Posted by raxr

lol just like two weeks ago, you said you were making $150/day, and now all of a sudden you're saying you're making $300?? Wow you are so full of sh*t...
How much are you willing to lie just to sell your stupid course?

I've actually seen proof and been working with InTheMaking. I can back him up when he says he's earning this much. I have watched him go from making $50-$60 a day just weeks ago to having his sites rank up even higher and now he is earning almost $400 a day.

It's nuts, and watching his success with adsense has encouraged me to put up some adsense sites of my own. I have been focusing almost 100% on affiliate commissions until the last 30 days when I started setting up a few new sites that are only monetized with adsense.

I can't just sit by and watch InTheMaking earn that much with adsense without trying to copy his success for myself.

Certainly there are people on the WF who make **** up to sell their courses, but this is not one of them.

[James-]

raxr, i can understand your comment because what Jeremy has done is quite astonishing. However i would like to back him up here though. I have been chatting with him on Skype for quite a while now, and although i have never seen his proof of earnings i have no reason to doubt that he is making that much.

He has shown me how he makes these sites and his way of back linking them. In just over 3 weeks I am sitting at #7 for a term that is currently bringing me in £3-5 a day. When i rank top 3 i expect to be making a lot more, so you can see the potential.

The fact Jeremy has 30+ of these sites there is no reason why he is not making that much in a short time, once you get the hang of the process you can make lots of these sites quickly which is what i intend to do when i have the time.

[RayW]

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

haha actually your right, I am lying when I said I'm earning $300/day because last thurs I actually had a $394 day - ALL from adsense, 37 sites total.

I laugh when I make a post and I get this criticism, because they're from guys making maybe $5/day in a matter of 6+ months. Like you, for example

The reason why I have coaching in my sig is so I can use my coaching money to pay my online fee's every month and not take it out of my bank account.

I just hope 1 of my 4 student's i've had the past month sees this thread and comments, so I can laugh at you.

The increased $150-$300/day jump is simple.

Run 10-15 sites at once, order articles in bulk, have a backlink system laid out.

Rather than complain like the peice of sh*t you are, try it, and see how it works for you. You could imagine 10 or 15 websites all of a sudden ranking could have a huge impact on my revenue.

Honestly, this month will only be about $6,500 - $7,000. Why? Because for half the month they werent ranking.

Also, you want to know my past 4 months of earnings?

May - $28 - I only started my first website on the 16th
June - $890
July - $2300
Aug - $6500 - $7,000 estimated
Sept - $8,000 - $10,000 - another estimate, by the way production is going.

Right now I'm in the middle of creating 3 Affiliate websites, so production has slowed for the past week because I've never gotten into this.

What I'm trying to say is, don't be a douchebag and complain all the time about peoples success and actually try and make money yourself and put in the effort.

EDIT* - I want to make an example out of you. People like you spread all this information across the forum, who make nothing. That's right nothing. You start threads About exactly what to do, and how well everything works, what not to do, etc. Honestly, how the hell do you know what works if you've never ranked a site, and made any money?

My coaching may cost money, but at least get people started and on their feet with the right information.

lol don't get mad at me for exposing you for the fraud that you are.

There have been many people who have tried what you said and haven't had any success, why should we believe that you're an exception, especially when you haven't shown any proof and ESPECIALLY when you're selling a service in your sig? If you really are making that much from adsense, surely your time would be much better spent on making adsense sites than on giving others advice on making adsense sites...

You say you use your coaching money to pay your bank fees? lol if you're so good at earning from adsense, couldn't you just make another adsense site to cover those fees?

Come to think of it, this is a pretty good plan you have here to make money online:
- make outrageous claims on IM success on WF
- trick some desperate noobs to sign up for your course
- sit back and watch the money roll in

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

I just hope 1 of my 4 student's i've had the past month sees this thread and comments, so I can laugh at you.

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

Rather than complain like the peice of sh*t you are, try it, and see how it works for you. You could imagine 10 or 15 websites all of a sudden ranking could have a huge impact on my revenue.

Hey Jeremy,

I used to respect your opinion and believe every word that came out of your mouth, but you seem to be going on the defensive so easily. Plus I've been following the things that you have been saying and one minute you say one thing and the next you say/imply that you haven't done it before. Also you seemed to of gotten a lot of back up in a short period of time. Do you student follow your every move, even in the forums?

But let's try not to stray away from what this thread is trying to ask though. Bulldozer is just trying to get an answer from all of us.

-Mark

P.S: Your explanation of why you want to charge for you coaching services is kind of flawed (this goes for all coaching services in fact). If you are making so much money, why charge such a "minor" fee when you can make it in a day? If you want to just "help out a fellow warrior" then do it for free since that kind of money should be insignificant.

[InTheMaking]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Hey Jeremy,

I used to respect your opinion and believe every word that came out of your mouth, but you seem to be going on the defensive so easily. Plus I've been following the things that you have been saying and one minute you say one thing and the next you say/imply that you haven't done it before.

Let's try not to stray away from what this thread is trying to ask though. This guy is just trying to get an answer from all of us.

-Mark

hahah na, I'll throw up my adsense earnings here for you guys that make f*** all and complain 24/7.

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[ExploringInfinity]

Why wouldn't you want to add another dynamic stream to your income? If it weren't for people who teach others AND CHARGE A FEE for coaching there would be a lot less people making money on the internet these days.

The best thing you can do when you create a solid income stream is to diversify it and create new ways of making money. Coaching people in adsense is a perfectly legitimate way to do that, and I do believe that once you're making a couple hundred a day at adsense that would qualify you to teach a few things to people who make a couple bucks a day, (or less).

Saying that his 'low fee' is suspicious is pretty n00bish. If he charged more nobody would buy his coaching, if he charged less he would be wasting his time. And no, I have never paid Jeremy for anything (nor has he paid me for anything). I have no vested interest in propping him up, but I saw this thread and people accusing him of being a fraud, to which I have to reply because I have seen that he is not a fraud with my own eyes.

A lot of people say "I did exactly what you said and it doesnt work so its a scam" about all sorts of courses, people, and methods, but the problem is that most n00bs don't actually do what they were taught but think they are following the instructions (or adding their own n00b twist to it that they think will work better, but in fact it does not).

I've seen it many times myself, I can explain to people a thousand times the way I do my affiliate sites, and then the person I was trying to help out comes back and says THIS DOESNT WORK, I HAVENT EARNED ANY COMMISSIONS. Then I see their site and they haven't followed the instructions. Sometimes they haven't even made an attempt to follow the instructions, but for some reason they still have the nerve to say the method doesn't work, even though they are too n00b to actually do it properly.

Now, I haven't followed Jeremy's posts on the WF and I have no idea really what he's been saying in other threads here, but I HAVE seen proof of Jeremy's earnings via screenshots and daily communication, and he and I have been helping eachother out over skype for many months now. I get almost daily updates from him (and he gets updates from me too) and I've watched his online empire grow to the size of mine, and then double it in the matter of a couple months, the real explosion for him has been in the last few weeks though.

And to answer the actual thread topic, I have several affiliate sites earning commissions daily, and I've now set up 4 adsense sites following jeremy's style.

In total I make about $120 on average per day, but my days still swing from $50-$320 per day depending.

Making money with mini-sites is not dead. Far from it.

[RayW]

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

hahah na, I'll throw up my adsense earnings here for you guys that make f*** all and complain 24/7.

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Hey, you were able to photoshop an image, good job!

ThatGuy is right, there's no reason for you to be getting so defensive.

I'm not doubting you have a great strategy for making money on adsense. I'm not even doubting you're making some money on adsense. But $300/day... in 3 months?? That's impossible.

[InTheMaking]

Originally Posted by raxr

Hey, you were able to photoshop an image, good job!

ThatGuy is right, there's no reason for you to be getting so defensive.

I'm not doubting you have a great strategy for making money on adsense. I'm not even doubting you're making some money on adsense. But $300/day... in 3 months?? That's impossible.

haha I'm not even going to try and convince you, your a waste of time. Goodluck making any money if you do happen to make anything.

Or better yet, when someone else has success.. tell them they're lying and that it's impossible. Because for you it is.

[RayW]

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

haha I'm not even going to try and convince you, your a waste of time. Goodluck making any money if you do happen to make anything.

Or better yet, when someone else has success.. tell them they're lying and that it's impossible. Because for you it is.

I never said making money online is impossible, I said going from $0 to $300/day in 3 months from just adsense is impossible. Hell, sometimes it takes almost a month for google to recognize a site's backlinks.

[InTheMaking]

Originally Posted by raxr

I never said making money online is impossible, I said going from $0 to $300/day in 3 months from just adsense is impossible. Hell, sometimes it takes almost a month for google to recognize a site's backlinks.

Right, and you read that information on Warriorforum from someone who's never made a penny online also?

hahah it never seems to amaze me what kind of information you hear on this forum.

[ExploringInfinity]

Originally Posted by raxr

I never said making money online is impossible, I said going from $0 to $300/day in 3 months from just adsense is impossible. Hell, sometimes it takes almost a month for google to recognize a site's backlinks.

too noob

[Bulldozer]

Guys, you don't have to go all menstrual and menopausal on each-other in my thread.
Just keep it close to the topic. I appreciate your input.

[ichl13]

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

Right, and you read that information on Warriorforum from someone who's never made a penny online also?

hahah it never seems to amaze me what kind of information you hear on this forum.

I don't know you, and i'm just being honest when I say you're sounding like an arrogant prick...

Back on topic though, I have a few sites that seem to be doing alright in the rankings. I start the site off with about 1000 words of content so google has enough to feed on. Then add new content consistently. Depending on how competitive the niche is, I might add a new post every 3 days to a week until I rank well

[36burrows]

It depends on the site really.

If the site is a clear winner then I will start adding as much content as possible to scale it up, if it's just so-so, then I'll just leave about 6 posts on them then move on to new sites or sell the old ones.

[bhuff85]

Originally Posted by raxr

I never said making money online is impossible, I said going from $0 to $300/day in 3 months from just adsense is impossible. Hell, sometimes it takes almost a month for google to recognize a site's backlinks.

Nothing is impossible. It's all about getting down to work, picking and choosing the right niche markets and taking fast action.

When it comes to Adsense, I like to think of it more like a snowball effect. When you first start out, the earnings aren't necessarily there. That's primarily due to the fact that most people are in the process of researching their niches/keywords, building their website, adding content, backlinks, etc.

Over time (if done correctly), those websites start to creep towards the top spot in Google. When they do, earnings obviously will increase. And, once those sites hit top ranks on the 1st page for their targeted keywords, they only need some light maintenance to keep those spots. Then, it's simply a matter of repeating the same process with a new batch of sites. Earnings start to snowball, increasing month after month.

So, if you've got 10 sites that you start with and get them all ranking solid within a month (which is HIGHLY likely if you know what you're doing, and I can speak from personal experience myself), if you're in Adsense niches with high CPC, you'll really start to see your earnings explode.

While I haven't yet reached the level of success that Jeremy has, I can say that it's really not that difficult. You have to find a method that works, and you put it to use as quick as you can. By doing that, I've been able to double my Adsense earnings every single month since May (when I started to seriously get back into the Adsense model).

Heck, all of those sites that I started in May are now sitting on page one in Google for not only their main keyword phrase, but a plethora of others. Looking back in May, I made $9 in Adsense that month. Now, those sites collectively pull in more than 40 TIMES THAT AMOUNT, just from 7 sites total.

...And, those are just from the batch I started with in May. So, it should be no surprise why I'm significantly ramping up production on new websites.

You know what the secret is? It takes work - A LOT of it, too!

*GASP* - you mean it takes WORK to make money online?

Well, I can tell you that anyone who tells you it doesn't is most likely selling you a pipe dream; however, it doesn't mean that some people won't experience breakout success quickly, either. Everyone is different, and not everyone has the same process or plan that they follow.

Just remember to learn as much as you can and put the work in. It can get tiring somedays to the point where you want to throw in the towel, but then you have those days when you start to see some serious earnings come through that gives you enough motivation to keep stick to your guns and keep going. That's what making money online is all about.

[TryBPO]

First, to answer the OP, our sites are generally 7-12 pages of information. We primarily target a primary keyword, but go after some secondaries or long tail KW's with the additional content. The sites are fine because we're so closely targeted...the larger sites have too many keywords to worry about so our niche sites can usually beat them out.

In regards to Jeremy or InTheMaking, I have no idea what he's making, but i can say that you can get from $0 to 3K in around 6 months. Can you do worse? Of course...can you do better? I'm sure...so I don't think his claims are totally outrageous...seems possible to me.

I do wonder about the coaching, though. I'd rather spend more time building more sites and making more passive income. Even if I had the time for coaching, I wouldn't want to spend my time on a per/hour basis helping someone else make money. Now...maybe Jeremy likes helping other people? Maybe that's a passion of his and, aside from the money, it's something that interests him? I don't know, but his comments here are probably more likely to hurt his coaching than to help...and that came from him, not something someone else said about him.

We have nothing to sell (other than site sales every once in a while) so, I think, you can trust what we have to say for the most part. You can get most everything you need for free...we give it away freely on our site. Someone much further along than we are and with way more content/info on his site is Spencer from NichePursuits.com...should definitely take a look at what he has to say...excellent information there.

[kiddoman]

I am still working on my main site SEO work. No plans for niche site now! Hope to make some in the future!

[RayW]

Originally Posted by TryBPO

Now...maybe Jeremy likes helping other people? Maybe that's a passion of his and, aside from the money, it's something that interests him?

If that were the case, wouldn't he do it for free?

[InTheMaking]

Originally Posted by raxr

If that were the case, wouldn't he do it for free?

Raxr, let me explain it to you once more.. and I'm actually not even going to bother coaching because 1. It's not worth the hassle from people like you 2. It's not even worth $500

If you accept that I'm making $200-300/day or not, my on-page and off-page SEO is obviously working, right? No doubt about it. To get to $300/day within 3 months you definitely have to have it working or you need to be in the right niche.

Also accept that "Warrior Forum" is filled with a few highly knowledged people and a TON of new, clueless people trying to follow the dream of working from home, and making a lot of money.

The whole point of my coaching was to take them from step 1, all the way to step 20. Explaining the basics, teaching them exactly what I've been doing to be profitable, and leaving them with an outline that they can duplicate over and over again which is exactly what I've done.

If you could cut out the last 6 months of learning SEO with a $500 investment and have all of the correct information shoved in your face, wouldn't you consider it?

You might say, "Why would he coach people when he's making $300/day?" - Yeah I'm making $300/day, but I don't get paid until the end of the next month.

So far from adsense I've only been paid $900 from the first month, and I'm doing this full time. That's almost 2 months ago, how the hell do I live on $900 for 2 full months?

the $500 investment pays all my online expenses per month, allows me to buy domains/articles.

Then I can worry about my offline expenses with the money thats in my bank account.

Why tear me down with "How much bullsh*t lies are you tellin everyone" "that is impossible"

It's not, so quit trying to make everyone believe it is just because you assume so.

[TryBPO]

Hey Jeremy,

I know very little about your business and we've only chatted briefly during a few exchanges. I DO believe you're making a fair amount of money via AdSense (If I remember right, you had a video on a site a while back, right?) but I can't know for sure exactly how much, of course.

Either way, I don't really get why you do the coaching. Sure, we give quite a bit of info away, but that's one-way communication...pretty easy for me. We don't do 1 on 1's because of time restrictions and net benefit...I figure i can do the most amount of good broadcasting the information rather than 1 on 1 and, honestly, I just don't think it's worth my time.

More importantly, though, I would say that if you are going to offer coaching (or other services in general) you should really try to get better at handling criticism. Threads like these may end up haunting you down the road and that definitely wouldn't be good for business. It's not so much what others have brought up attacking you, it's your reaction to those attacks that I would remember and would turn me away from wanting to work with you.

If I remember right you're fairly young? Don't let a hot-head respond to criticism...it's just not a good idea!

I think what many people get a bit frustrated with is people that come along, talk about how they've started killing it online, and then offer a WSO, coaching, etc. It "seems" manufactured and people are turned off by that. We've been accused of it a bit as well, along with pimping our website auctions here, but you can't let it bother you. I know where my motives and goals are. You know yours. Don't let it get to you...

[InTheMaking]

Originally Posted by TryBPO

Hey Jeremy,

I know very little about your business and we've only chatted briefly during a few exchanges. I DO believe you're making a fair amount of money via AdSense (If I remember right, you had a video on a site a while back, right?) but I can't know for sure exactly how much, of course.

Either way, I don't really get why you do the coaching. Sure, we give quite a bit of info away, but that's one-way communication...pretty easy for me. We don't do 1 on 1's because of time restrictions and net benefit...I figure i can do the most amount of good broadcasting the information rather than 1 on 1 and, honestly, I just don't think it's worth my time.

More importantly, though, I would say that if you are going to offer coaching (or other services in general) you should really try to get better at handling criticism. Threads like these may end up haunting you down the road and that definitely wouldn't be good for business. It's not so much what others have brought up attacking you, it's your reaction to those attacks that I would remember and would turn me away from wanting to work with you.

If I remember right you're fairly young? Don't let a hot-head respond to criticism...it's just not a good idea!

I think what many people get a bit frustrated with is people that come along, talk about how they've started killing it online, and then offer a WSO, coaching, etc. It "seems" manufactured and people are turned off by that. We've been accused of it a bit as well, along with pimping our website auctions here, but you can't let it bother you. I know where my motives and goals are. You know yours. Don't let it get to you...

Yeah your exactly right, and I guess my 'coaching' was brought up as a WSO, with a lot of hype which is why people are tearing me down.

I'm only using it as side income at the moment because I do only get paid monthly. And yes, I'm only 18. I'm not here to please anyone though, and I'm not looking to follow in the service route in the near future. I have scratched the idea to keep coaching a few people.

This isn't a game, it's a business. For me it's long term, for many it may be a "give it a go" and move on to something else. Because of this, I take my job very seriously. If someone was calling you a joke, tearing down your newsletter/calling you a lie/telling everyone your a 'scam' you'd be pretty upset.

"Warrior Forum" got me onto my feet, and I appreciate it. We're supposed to be a group of people learning off of eachother, not insulting eachother. I've never sold anyone, ever offered a service. Heck I only registered to warrior forum in 2011. I don't know how to come across as 'professional' and I also haven't taken the time to learn because I've been so busy doing something I know how to do.

[glennforum]

Going back to answering the initial thread question, i think that would depend on how you would like your micro niche site to perform and what it is up against. For a site with high competition micro niche sites can have more than 10 pages since there is a need to add more content into it.