"Article marketing" and duplicate content

[Bulldozer]

Before I ask my question, let me just say that I have no clear idea what article marketing is.
I don't know whether it is just a way to get backlinks by posting articles on the internet or if it is when you are marketing your articles for money and getting backlinks in the process.

Whatever it is, my question is:
Is it OK SEO-wise to submit one and the same article to multiple article directories for the sake of getting a backlink from each directory?

Will this be considered use of duplicate content of some sort and will the linked site get penalized by Google?

[nicktyler]

That is a very good question. it has been asked before and you might get mixed answers to it.

I would say it is duplicate content but all that will happen is the links will be devalued on any sited considered to be duplicate after the "origional" therefore it is simply a waste of time and you should submit to only unique articles to a few of the best directories.

The linked site probably does not get penalty from this type of duplicate content but it is a waste of time submitting over and over.

[36burrows]

Yes it is ok.

Duplicate content is only referring to having the same content on pages within your website.

Which just means Google will only rank one of the pages as opposed to all of them.

[Bulldozer]

Originally Posted by nicktyler

That is a very good question. it has been asked before and you might get mixed answers to it.

I would say it is duplicate content but all that will happen is the links will be devalued on any sited considered to be duplicate after the "origional" therefore it is simply a waste of time and you should submit to only unique articles to a few of the best directories.

The linked site probably does not get penalty from this type of duplicate content but it is a waste of time submitting over and over.

^ Makes sense, thank you very much.
What are the best article directories to submit to?

Also, aren't those article directories just trying to steal people's niches (or maybe the people who frequent them are doing that?).

I guess a lot of people are doing this...

[ckrieger]

As long as the article is on all different sites it is not considered duplicate content. It is only considered duplicate content if the same site has the same article more than once. Submitting the same article to a bunch of different sites will still get you a backlink from each of those sites.

[Bulldozer]

Originally Posted by ckrieger

As long as the article is on all different sites it is not considered duplicate content. It is only considered duplicate content if the same site has the same article more than once. Submitting the same article to a bunch of different sites will still get you a backlink from each of those sites.

Yeah, but it looks like the value of those backlinks will be diminished.

[Bulldozer]

Aren't those article directories just trying to steal people's niches (or maybe the people who frequent them are doing that?).

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by Bulldozer

Yeah, but it looks like the value of those backlinks will be diminished.

No the links are not devalued. Although, they don't carry a tremendous value to begin with since they are PR 0 and PR n/a links.

Nick's response was completely wrong though. It is not duplicate content, and you can get the same article indexed multiple times on different sites.

It's called syndication.

[XIIIzen]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

No the links are not devalued. Although, they don't carry a tremendous value to begin with since they are PR 0 and PR n/a links.

Nick's response was completely wrong though. It is not duplicate content, and you can get the same article indexed multiple times on different sites.

It's called syndication.

Let me see if I got it right, since I find your posts Mike some of the best advice on the forum.

So if I have an original article and post it on my site and to create backlinks I write another article on the same topic (with a backlink to the original) and post this to I dunno 10 directories, that will mean 10 backlinks and it doesn't matter if it is spinned or not?

I'm just asking, since proof of this would put to rest the so called duplicate content fear and the need for spinners.

[paulgl]

The articles you put on other sites may have a link to your
site. That's a backlink.

It does not matter that it's the exact same thing. Major sites
use the same stuff. Like Mike said, it's called syndication.

Duplicate content on even your own site will not get you penalized,
unless it's done in a way to manipulate search engines.
But it's the manipulation, not duplication that's the problem.

There is a difference in the terms devalued and low level.

They are not the same. A low level link is not really a devalued
link. A devalued link would be something on a high authority page
that got spammed or otherwise junked, then the link would get
devalued. Google I assume has done some mass devaluing.

Directory links are low level in today's world.

I would not make article sites rich with content. I used to,
but found it oh so much nicer to be pumping up my own
sites, blogs, squidoos, etc. And those are links I can control.

I don't have to time nor need for article marketing. I may get
slammed for saying this, but I think people graduate from
article marketing after they are schooled a little bit.

Paul

[XIIIzen]

Originally Posted by paulgl

The articles you put on other sites may have a link to your
site. That's a backlink.

It does not matter that it's the exact same thing. Major sites
use the same stuff. Like Mike said, it's called syndication.

Duplicate content on even your own site will not get you penalized,
unless it's done in a way to manipulate search engines.
But it's the manipulation, not duplication that's the problem.

There is a difference in the terms devalued and low level.

They are not the same. A low level link is not really a devalued
link. A devalued link would be something on a high authority page
that got spammed or otherwise junked, then the link would get
devalued. Google I assume has done some mass devaluing.

Directory links are low level in today's world.

I would not make article sites rich with content. I used to,
but found it oh so much nicer to be pumping up my own
sites, blogs, squidoos, etc. And those are links I can control.

I don't have to time nor need for article marketing. I may get
slammed for saying this, but I think people graduate from
article marketing after they are schooled a little bit.

Paul

Now that is a good reply, and very illustrating too. Thanks Paul.

[Jeremy Banks]

I have been submitting the same articles to multiple directories and it has been working. Saves time and money!

[Bulldozer]

Alright, what are some good and tested directories for submitting articles?

[howinfo]

Originally Posted by Bulldozer

Before I ask my question, let me just say that I have no clear idea what article marketing is.
I don't know whether it is just a way to get backlinks by posting articles on the internet or if it is when you are marketing your articles for money and getting backlinks in the process.

To make article marketing work, what you need is a quality article. I have seen some writing services here at warrior forum offer article directory articles for $ 5 and research articles for $ 25. You need the $ 25 article and not $5. If your aim is to get as many article directory back links as possible then the $5 might do but if you want it to get syndicated by other websites and blogs you really need the best quality article.

Although backlink from article directories are fine and can send your site quite a lot of traffic, you should still aim for the high syndication rate.

Lets say that you got a really good article about ‘dog training’ and you have spent $ 25 on it and you submit it to some major article directories and also some niche article directories if there are any article directories for that niche and then some websites and blogs that are concentrating on ‘dog training’ see that and they would say: “ hey, that is a good information, our user would like to read it as well, lets publish it on our site” and then you have gained a relevant backlink to your site that will send you highly targeted traffic. And with good article it should not be problem to get at least 20 sites to syndicate it. So for $ 25 dollars you have gained 20 highly relevant baclinks plus links form article directories as well and that article just keeps working for you without any additional work at your part. Article marketing is the cheapest and easiest way to get quality relevant backlinks.

[hassanimtiaz91]

i've been doing this. submitting same articles on different directories. and it actually helps and saves time.

[hassanimtiaz91]

and you know what.. as long as the link is 'dofollow', it doesn't matter if the content is same in every article directory or not. so just look for the 'dofollow' backlinks and don't worry about the content. hope this helps.

[Alexander Simons]

Originally Posted by hassanimtiaz91

and you know what.. as long as the link is 'dofollow', it doesn't matter if the content is same in every article directory or not. so just look for the 'dofollow' backlinks and don't worry about the content. hope this helps.

That isnt true at all,
1: If you only focus on getting dofollow links, Google Will see this, focus on getting both nofollow and dofollow, remember that Google wants a natural backlinking strategy that both contains nofollow and dofollow.

2: Saying dont worry about the content is like saying dont worry about how and where you place the backlink. Googlar will see that your backlinks are comming from low quality articles/comments and give them less value.

On topic: Its ok to use duplicate content when doing article marketing for backlinks, If you do this you can use the power of syndaction witch means Google is adding all the power to one article (the orginal), remember to first post the article on your money site so its your article that gets the power and not some article directory link.

/Alexander Simons

[ulcseminary]

I've worked about 15 articles and have gotten a lot better at spinning them, but it takes about 12 hours per article to do a high % spin. And a LOT of concentration. Most people don't do this, which is why so many of the spun articles out there are bad.

With that said, I've submitted the articles to several hundred directories and have gotten backlinks from maybe 20 or 30 of them, total.

The rest are, I guess, too low quality to count, but the ones that do, do, so that is a good thing.

But the articles aren't the same article. Spun, but similar.

[ulcseminary]

I've worked about 15 articles and have gotten a lot better at spinning them, but it takes about 12 hours per article to do a high % spin. And a LOT of concentration. Most people don't do this, which is why so many of the spun articles out there are bad.

With that said, I've submitted the articles to several hundred directories and have gotten backlinks from maybe 20 or 30 of them, total.

The rest are, I guess, too low quality to count, but the ones that do, do, so that is a good thing.

But the articles aren't the same article. Spun, but similar.

[warriorkay]

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There's so much to be said on this topic and so much has
already been said in here. There are basically two factions -
those who say duplicate content doesn't matter and those
who say it does. Both factions have strong points, but
are both of them right? That's the question!

I guess everyone should TEST things out thoroughly to
decide for themselves whether duplicate content matters or
not.

For me (and my house, ) duplicate content matters,
now more than ever, so submitting the exact same article
to hundreds of sites (whether article directories or not) is
just a waste of time!

That's why Article Spinning came about, in the first place.

But then again, that's just me. To each his own,

Kingsley

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[ulcseminary]

There's also the question of how much duplicating does Google care about? I have essays that people write, which I post on usually two blogs and the article directory. So each article is posted maybe 3x. Does google notice every bit of duplication?