Confused as to the difference between sites

martymee · 08-31-2011, 01:34 AM

Hi all,

I'm pretty new to SEO and the Warrior forums but i have been reading as much as i can.

I wanted to ask a question but this is the back story first. I had a website developed by someone else Green and Gold Electrics - Electrician Bayside - Domesitc & Commercial we can get into the back end but cant change much with it only content and stuff, its wordpress. The person who did the site has gone MIA and we cant contact them. They havent been returning out calls. So worried about our site disappearing one day we set up our own site Electrician Local thats the same.

We have been doing what SEO we can to both sites. Content/backlinks etc. Our knowledge is limited but we are learning!

So i am confused as to why the 1st site (Green and Gold electrics) ranks on the 1st page yet the 2nd one (electrician local) dosnt rank anywhere. For example when i search Electricians Hampton in google this comes up on the 1st page Electricians Hampton Victoria, Electrical contractors Hampton, Electrician Hampton yet this page Electricians Hampton Victoria, Electrical contractors Hampton, Electrician Hampton | electricianlocal.com.au which is the same dosnt rank at all.

I've love to know why? Whats the difference and where i am going wrong?

I am using Seopressor and All in one SEO pack for the Electrician local site and the Green and Gold Electrics site is using Genesis SEO

I hope all that is understandable?

Thanks heaps,

Kelly

UMS · 08-31-2011, 02:18 AM

The reason electricianlocal.com.au doesn't rank is that you've essentially copied the content verbatim off the original site.

Google will see this site has having duplicate content and given the original site already ranks highly, there is no reason for Google to rank another website with the same content on it.

PooFinger · 08-31-2011, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by UMS

The reason electricianlocal.com.au doesn't rank is that you've essentially copied the content verbatim off the original site.

Google will see this site has having duplicate content and given the original site already ranks highly, there is no reason for Google to rank another website with the same content on it.

Agreed, duplicate content is a killer. Make your content unique, doesn't take much, just rewrite what you have already.

With your first site, is it hosted on their servers or yours? I have seen wordpress sites hosted on your own (paid) host, that only allow you to change your content and nothing else. If you can contact the host then you should be able to find out from them how to change more than just the content, you shouldn't need to go through the original designer.

owenlee · 08-31-2011, 03:15 AM

agree with UMS that due to the same content...and are you targeting the same keywords?you can look into this area..try to target the other keywords..

martymee · 08-31-2011, 04:21 AM

Thanks all! That helps me so much.

I wrote the original content so it isnt the designers. I might change the key words on the other then and see what happens.

Quote:

With your first site, is it hosted on their servers or yours? I have seen wordpress sites hosted on your own (paid) host, that only allow you to change your content and nothing else. If you can contact the host then you should be able to find out from them how to change more than just the content, you shouldn't need to go through the original designer.

Their servers. They havent even taken payment for the site so thats why we are worried about it just disappearing. All we have is a back end log in.

Thanks so much!

Aaron Egan · 08-31-2011, 04:28 AM

Google's duplicate content filter runs at about 90ish % (correct me if I'm wrong), so there's not a great deal to change. Do some paraphrasing, mix up the titles, h1's and h2's, change the meta up, and don't go overboard with keyword densities. I often run Backup Buddy which clones Wordpress sites and by doing the above I've never had pages from either sites excluded from the index.

PooFinger · 08-31-2011, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martymee

Thanks all! That helps me so much.

I wrote the original content so it isnt the designers. I might change the key words on the other then and see what happens.

Their servers. They havent even taken payment for the site so thats why we are worried about it just disappearing. All we have is a back end log in.

Thanks so much!

Only thing I can think of then is whether or not you control the name of the domain through your own host. Then it would be a simple matter of building your own WP site and changing the DNS servers? This would be done through who you registered the domain through and hopefully still pay to renew the domain name.

RokDot · 08-31-2011, 04:34 AM

Yeah like everyone else has said, Googles duplicate filter is the reason mate.

08-31-2011, 01:34 AM	#1
martymee Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Confused as to the difference between sites Hi all, I'm pretty new to SEO and the Warrior forums but i have been reading as much as i can. I wanted to ask a question but this is the back story first. I had a website developed by someone else Green and Gold Electrics - Electrician Bayside - Domesitc & Commercial we can get into the back end but cant change much with it only content and stuff, its wordpress. The person who did the site has gone MIA and we cant contact them. They havent been returning out calls. So worried about our site disappearing one day we set up our own site Electrician Local thats the same. We have been doing what SEO we can to both sites. Content/backlinks etc. Our knowledge is limited but we are learning! So i am confused as to why the 1st site (Green and Gold electrics) ranks on the 1st page yet the 2nd one (electrician local) dosnt rank anywhere. For example when i search Electricians Hampton in google this comes up on the 1st page Electricians Hampton Victoria, Electrical contractors Hampton, Electrician Hampton yet this page Electricians Hampton Victoria, Electrical contractors Hampton, Electrician Hampton \| electricianlocal.com.au which is the same dosnt rank at all. I've love to know why? Whats the difference and where i am going wrong? I am using Seopressor and All in one SEO pack for the Electrician local site and the Green and Gold Electrics site is using Genesis SEO I hope all that is understandable? Thanks heaps, Kelly

08-31-2011, 02:18 AM	#2
UMS Peter Sundstrom War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,854 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 177 Thanked 503 Times in 370 Posts Social Networking	Re: Confused as to the difference between sites The reason electricianlocal.com.au doesn't rank is that you've essentially copied the content verbatim off the original site. Google will see this site has having duplicate content and given the original site already ranks highly, there is no reason for Google to rank another website with the same content on it.
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08-31-2011, 04:28 AM	#6
Aaron Egan Search Marketing Guru Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 28 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Confused as to the difference between sites Google's duplicate content filter runs at about 90ish % (correct me if I'm wrong), so there's not a great deal to change. Do some paraphrasing, mix up the titles, h1's and h2's, change the meta up, and don't go overboard with keyword densities. I often run Backup Buddy which clones Wordpress sites and by doing the above I've never had pages from either sites excluded from the index.

08-31-2011, 04:34 AM	#8
RokDot Mr Rok War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Narnia Posts: 135 Thanks: 4 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts Contact Info	Re: Confused as to the difference between sites Yeah like everyone else has said, Googles duplicate filter is the reason mate.