Google, Sites, and IP's

[michaelcorvin]

Hey Warriors, Have a quick question. Have a dedicated server that we are in the process of building an additional 50 sites on. These will be WordPress site but have custom themes. They are product-driven sites. We have 8 categories of products we are going to to promoting through these sites. So we may have 4 site that are selling the same products. Design will be different for all 4.

Now I have heard that when you put similar sites on the same server that Google looks down on that and maybe making sure all 4 of those sites are on different IP's will do the trick.

What's the best way to approach this?

Thanks

Michael

[Jacob Cuculiza]

Im also looking forward to see a good answer :-)

[DarrenHaynes]

I am not an expert on the matter, but my concern would be that if all the sites are on the same IP and google doesn't like one of the sites and decides to de-index it, they possible could wipe them all out. A freind of mine who has a 100 sites got 30 of them deindexed, the 30 sites had the same "whois" info, and the other site have a different whois.

But, back to your original question, I am not so sure that they frown on it per say. Another guy I know has 100 sites on the same server, and even has the same google analytics account on all of the sites, and a number of the sites are in the same niche and he has never had an issue. I know that a lot his sites are actually high quality.

Ultimately, I think a lot of the same sites in the same niche that are not so great are what can cause the problems.

Of course, these are just a few example, and in the bigger picture I could be completely wrong!

[michaelcorvin]

Would anyone like to take a deeper shot at this?

[g36]

That's right, those sites need to have different IPs, not to mention those sites sell the same product. It may be seen as "duplicate content" and they can be de-indexed.

[michaelcorvin]

Originally Posted by g36

That's right, those sites need to have different IPs, not to mention those sites sell the same product. It may be seen as "duplicate content" and they can be de-indexed.

So as long as the IP's are changed we should be good to go?

[phpguy]

Couple of diffErent cblocks couldn't hurt

[michaelcorvin]

Originally Posted by phpguy

Couple of diffErent cblocks couldn't hurt

Great!! What are cblocks :-)

[DarrenHaynes]

[quoteGreat!! What are cblocks :-)][/quote]

A "C" block refers to a specific part of IP addresses. Lets take "195.24.53.107" as an example of an IP address.

"195" is the A class section of the address
"24" is the B class
"53" is the C class
"107" is the D class

To keep sites separated, so they cannot be linked together as you being the sole owner of them, you need to assign a unique IP address to each site at the C class level, this means that the A class and B class numbers can be exactly the same, but the C class number need to be different. Such as"

195.24.53.107
195.24.27.456
195.23.63.904

So, as we can see, each of the above numbers differ starting at the C class. Having your sites separated just at the D class level isn't enough to provide anonymity.

However, if google wanted to take a closer look, they could links sites together by other means, such as them having the same affiliate I'D's, or through "whois" information if it is not set to private.

[michaelcorvin]

Originally Posted by DarrenHaynes

[quoteGreat!! What are cblocks :-)]

A "C" block refers to a specific part of IP addresses. Lets take "195.24.53.107" as an example of an IP address.

"195" is the A class section of the address
"24" is the B class
"53" is the C class
"107" is the D class

To keep sites separated, so they cannot be linked together as you being the sole owner of them, you need to assign a unique IP address to each site at the C class level, this means that the A class and B class numbers can be exactly the same, but the C class number need to be different. Such as"

195.24.53.107
195.24.27.456
195.23.63.904

So, as we can see, each of the above numbers differ starting at the C class. Having your sites separated just at the D class level isn't enough to provide anonymity.

However, if google wanted to take a closer look, they could links sites together by other means, such as them having the same affiliate I'D's, or through "whois" information if it is not set to private.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Darren...exactly what I was looking for.

Michael

[Alyona The Publicist]

Michael, whatever other internet marketers and SEO gurus say about the google ranking alghorithym I still believe that the only thing that makes a difference are BACKLINKS. Get backlinks with the keywords you want to rank and you will rank no matter what! Other so-called experts are saying that other factors count, ok I won't say they won't count but i would say it's 90% backlinks and 10% other factors.

so believe me ... don't bother about other tactics other than link building... that's from my experience

[Brian Alaway]

Originally Posted by michaelcorvin

So we may have 4 site that are selling the same products. Design will be different for all 4.

I don't get this. Are you trying to split test design by having multiple sites selling the same products? If so this could be done much more efficiently. I think the ip issue will be the least of your concerns.

[michaelcorvin]

Brian...Simple story...have new niche hitting the markets...have 4 customers who called and want me to build them a company. Very high-end stuff. Sites will all be different but around the same subject. No duplicate content or anything...just 4 sites on the same IP and want to make sure Google doesn't slam my clients for same type of products on the same IP.

Michael

[Brian Alaway]

If you're not linking these sites to each other then the ip issue is mute. Think about it, there are probably thousands of sites selling same or similar products on shared hosting. How can there not be ip overlap? If they're unique, Google won't care about that.