Google Sandbox Paranoia

emb1781 · 09-10-2011, 05:35 PM

Hi, Guys I have some questions basically about link building and actually laying out A link building campaign for new sites without getting sandboxed. I have had problems with this ever since trying to break into IM. I always seem to get sandboxed or even deindexed once after reaching page 1 for target keywords or getting around page 1 for target keywords.

Ive just setup A new site and am quite paranoid at the moment as far as building links. I am hesitating to order some link services or build too many links on my own. I guess I havent quite figured out the proper way to space things out and how many links to build per day etc. Then there are other variables that come into play such as the fact that some links take longer to be indexed then others. This has been very frustrating for me. So thought I would post A question here before proceeding with this new site. I dont have 8 months to sit in the sandbox for every site that i build. Any advice would be greatly appreciated guys.

Thanks
Rick

AnniePot · 09-10-2011, 05:56 PM

I try to approach everything completely "naturally", while being as consistent as possible. It's a fact that just a handful of high quality backlinks are worth thousands and thousands of low quality ones. Also, I just don't worry about the dofollow and nofollow hangup. Some of each appear much more natural. And don't disregard on-page seo, this will provide a solid foundation to build upon. Don't be paranoid, just be consistent.

PaulV · 09-10-2011, 06:37 PM

As Annie pointed out above, consistency is important for mantaining a natural looking linking building process to your site.

Starting out with some social bookmarks and some high PR and/or EDU links to your site is recommended. And then be consistent with a handful of quality links each week.

Then move up to 5-10 links per day.

If you want to blast out 1,000+ links to your site with article marketing software or profile links you will run the risk of being sandbox IF they are directed towards your site.

However, if you can still use this approach of blasting out a bunch of links but make sure it is at a seperate page like a Web 2.0 property, blog, or article that is linking to your site.

That way you will have the link juice transfer effect and will benefit from the links without the risk of your site getting sandboxed.

AnniePot · 09-10-2011, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulV

If you want to blast out 1,000+ links to your site with article marketing software or profile links you will run the risk of being sandbox IF they are directed towards your site.

However, if you can still use this approach of blasting out a bunch of links but make sure it is at a seperate page like a Web 2.0 property, blog, or article that is linking to your site.

That way you will have the link juice transfer effect and will benefit from the links without the risk of your site getting sandboxed.

Exactly. That's the only approach to take with links such as those. Great point Paul.

mattlaclear · 09-10-2011, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulV

If you want to blast out 1,000+ links to your site with article marketing software or profile links you will run the risk of being sandbox IF they are directed towards your site.

However, if you can still use this approach of blasting out a bunch of links but make sure it is at a seperate page like a Web 2.0 property, blog, or article that is linking to your site.

That way you will have the link juice transfer effect and will benefit from the links without the risk of your site getting sandboxed.

I call hogwash. There is no such thing as the Google sandbox. From my experience it is a mystical creation that keeps the weak kneed folks from really opening up on link submissions.

emb1781 · 09-12-2011, 12:55 PM

Thanks for the replies. I certainly believe the google sandbox is real because I have seen it first hand. Going from page 1 all the way to the back of the index or being completely deindexed altogether. I dont do any cloaking or anything dirty. I think with new domains at least for certain keywords... If you are building too many links and flying too high too fast google will filter out the site. At least until the domain or the backlinks you are getting age.

paulgl · 09-12-2011, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emb1781

Thanks for the replies. I certainly believe the google sandbox is real because I have seen it first hand. Going from page 1 all the way to the back of the index or being completely deindexed altogether. I dont do any cloaking or anything dirty. I think with new domains at least for certain keywords... If you are building too many links and flying too high too fast google will filter out the site. At least until the domain or the backlinks you are getting age.

Complete and utter nonsense....the whole reply, actually.

Have you people never heard the word, viral?

De-index is not a sandbox. Sandbox means google is personally burying
your site. Newsflash: Google could care less about you and is NOT doing
anything personal to your site, no matter how great you are, and think
google should love you forever and ever.

Paul

lovboa · 09-12-2011, 02:37 PM

Just build quality sites and you wont have to worry about getting sandboxed.
You wont see a well-made site with quality content be sandboxed because of 1000+ backlinks.
But crap sites will...because they are crap...not because of backlinks....
The 1000+ backlinks probably bring attention to it that it is crap.

09-10-2011, 05:35 PM	#1
emb1781 Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 69 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Google Sandbox Paranoia Hi, Guys I have some questions basically about link building and actually laying out A link building campaign for new sites without getting sandboxed. I have had problems with this ever since trying to break into IM. I always seem to get sandboxed or even deindexed once after reaching page 1 for target keywords or getting around page 1 for target keywords. Ive just setup A new site and am quite paranoid at the moment as far as building links. I am hesitating to order some link services or build too many links on my own. I guess I havent quite figured out the proper way to space things out and how many links to build per day etc. Then there are other variables that come into play such as the fact that some links take longer to be indexed then others. This has been very frustrating for me. So thought I would post A question here before proceeding with this new site. I dont have 8 months to sit in the sandbox for every site that i build. Any advice would be greatly appreciated guys. Thanks Rick

09-10-2011, 05:56 PM	#2
AnniePot a.k.a. Anne Pottinger War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ½ Way between California and New York Posts: 1,724 Thanks: 1,778 Thanked 838 Times in 493 Posts Social Networking	Re: Google Sandbox Paranoia I try to approach everything completely "naturally", while being as consistent as possible. It's a fact that just a handful of high quality backlinks are worth thousands and thousands of low quality ones. Also, I just don't worry about the dofollow and nofollow hangup. Some of each appear much more natural. And don't disregard on-page seo, this will provide a solid foundation to build upon. Don't be paranoid, just be consistent.
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09-10-2011, 06:37 PM	#3
PaulV HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 282 Thanks: 23 Thanked 62 Times in 36 Posts	Re: Google Sandbox Paranoia As Annie pointed out above, consistency is important for mantaining a natural looking linking building process to your site. Starting out with some social bookmarks and some high PR and/or EDU links to your site is recommended. And then be consistent with a handful of quality links each week. Then move up to 5-10 links per day. If you want to blast out 1,000+ links to your site with article marketing software or profile links you will run the risk of being sandbox IF they are directed towards your site. However, if you can still use this approach of blasting out a bunch of links but make sure it is at a seperate page like a Web 2.0 property, blog, or article that is linking to your site. That way you will have the link juice transfer effect and will benefit from the links without the risk of your site getting sandboxed.
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09-12-2011, 12:55 PM	#6
emb1781 Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 69 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Google Sandbox Paranoia Thanks for the replies. I certainly believe the google sandbox is real because I have seen it first hand. Going from page 1 all the way to the back of the index or being completely deindexed altogether. I dont do any cloaking or anything dirty. I think with new domains at least for certain keywords... If you are building too many links and flying too high too fast google will filter out the site. At least until the domain or the backlinks you are getting age.

09-12-2011, 02:37 PM	#8
lovboa Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 741 Thanks: 119 Thanked 80 Times in 71 Posts	Re: Google Sandbox Paranoia Just build quality sites and you wont have to worry about getting sandboxed. You wont see a well-made site with quality content be sandboxed because of 1000+ backlinks. But crap sites will...because they are crap...not because of backlinks.... The 1000+ backlinks probably bring attention to it that it is crap.
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