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Old 09-11-2011, 01:52 AM   #1
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I'm fairly familiar with the causes of the "Google Dance", but I'm wondering if this happens with Yahoo and Bing as well. In other words, is it common for the other search engines to also send your ranking for a keyword plummeting when you're building backlinks for a new site?

The reason is, I have a site that is about 3 weeks old that I had ranked into the top 10 for several different keywords as of a week ago. Overnight, three of its pages (ones that I had been more aggressively BLing) plummeted into oblivion on all three search engines.

Granted, I wasn't on the first page for Yahoo or Bing yet, but I was showing up in the top 50 at least. For the last several days, none of these pages have shown up in the top 500 in any of the search engines.

Does this sound normal for a new site, or does it sound more like I've been penalized (by all 3 search engines, nonetheless)?
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Old 09-11-2011, 02:48 AM   #2
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It is too early to say you have been penalized by all three search engines.

Q: My site was ranked #(x) for keyword term (y) and it has dropped in rank. Why?
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Bing website ranking is completely automated. The Bing ranking algorithm analyzes factors such as web page content, the number and quality of websites that link to your pages, and the relevance of your website’s content to keywords. Site ranks change as we review the factors that make up the ranking. Although you can't directly change your website’s ranking, you can optimize its design and technical implementation to enable appropriate ranking by most search engines. For information about improving your website's ranking, we suggest you check out the Webmaster Center tools. We highly recommend that you use Webmaster Center’s Crawl Issues tool to determine if your site is being penalized for issues such as malware. Also review our post on what to do if you are not ranking.

I didn't see anything about Yahoo but you can have a look here.

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Old 09-11-2011, 03:02 AM   #3
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Does this sound normal for a new site, or does it sound more like I've been penalized (by all 3 search engines, nonetheless)?
It's very normal. In fact I bet your not at the bottom of the search engines all the time. This hour you could be on page 17, next page 10, next page 500.

Whatever you do, don't stop building links. The algo is just reacting to your link build and mainly its keeping track of your velocity over a long period of time. Stop building links and the algo will stop finding them.

Do a press release announcing your site (I recommend PRWeb) to flesh out your link profile. It will stabilize your site and stop the eratic dancing. You'll still dance, just not as wildly.

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Old 09-11-2011, 04:49 PM   #4
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PRweb is awesome btw!

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Old 09-11-2011, 06:17 PM   #5
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Default Re: Question about the Google Dance

Stop doing such aggressive linking building to a brand new site.

My initial link building consists of plugins that send out links to each page I create to places like ping.fm, hellotxt etc etc.

Then I use high quality PR blog networks to get some good quality links going; I prefer to use BMR because it will make sure your link gets indexed without any outside help.

High quality links are far better than getting blasts of 1000s upon 1000s of low quality ones.

With proper onpage SEO coupled with high quality off page seo you can outrank sites that have 10s of 1000s of links.

I am constantly outranking sites on the first page of Google that have 10s of 1000s of links to it and high PR. These are sites that even have a bunch of .edu and .gov links ( some with 100s some with 1000s.). Hell, I outrank .edu and .gov sites themselves that are based on my niche.

You need to stop relying on blasting 1000s of backlinks to your site. If you go quality over quantity you will see less of what is called the "Google dance". Instead, you will see a constant upward momentum of your rankings.

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Old 09-12-2011, 12:49 AM   #6
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You should focus on website optimization than building backlinks for a new website. I had also a new website and i just started creating backlinks quickly, first it was getting up and later it was not in top 500. Focus on your website and do some on page SEO for it.

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I agree with SmartGuy, get high contextual links on high pr blog networks. I use BMR and other methods to get my sites to page 1 on google.

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I think because of your site have low PR. So get the link juice.

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