The PR dilemma

ups1984 · 09-13-2011, 12:08 AM

So I was doing some link building yesterday and a question popped into my mind. let's say I submit an article with my website link to an article directory with a PR 5. Now this website in PR 5 but the page created with my article is probably PR 0. Now depending on the popularity and interaction on this article, it may go up to PR 1 - 4 or it may not and stay at PR 0. So in case it doesn't, will this back link be any useful to me from an SEO point of view?

Coz the way I look at it is, if this ink is not useful then I should stop wasting my time and try to get backlinks from homepages or blogroll etc.

What say?

MartinPlatt · 09-13-2011, 12:11 AM

I don't think it's so much the point of where the article is sitting, in a non-pageranked location, I think it's more about whether the article is good quality, and valuable to people. If it is, then you will get traffic, backlinks, and a better PR.

ups1984 · 09-13-2011, 12:22 AM

Thanks for the reply Martin. This was ust one example...i.e. article marketing, but then you have cases of directory submissions, blog commenting, forum postings etc. For example, the warrior forum is PR 5, but this page that we are discussing on, is PR 0 and might stay that.

Clint Faber · 09-13-2011, 12:27 AM

It depends what you mean by wasting your time as well as the amount of time that you put into it. You do not specify these details in your post. All links help your site, but manually building them yourself or any type SEO work can be hard when you not using submission tools or outsourcing the work.

As the head of a company I spend most my time on idea generation and outsourcing others to implement and I sit back and split test and see what works. In order to do good SEO it takes a lot and when I say a lot I mean a lot of reputation in routines to have any effect and if you were doing all yourself. It is my experience and professional opinion that it is in fact a waste of time if you are manually doing it yourself.

So in conclusion get good tools. Outsource the work. And split test methods for yourself.

MartinPlatt · 09-13-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ups1984

Thanks for the reply Martin. This was ust one example...i.e. article marketing, but then you have cases of directory submissions, blog commenting, forum postings etc. For example, the warrior forum is PR 5, but this page that we are discussing on, is PR 0 and might stay that.

Yeah, my point is, if the information on the page is good, no matter where it is, people will link to it, tweet about it, and probably the PR of that page will go up.

The reality is, it is also very possible if you find a place where you can have DoFollow links, and a high PR, that others will also find it, and high PR divided by lotsa outgoing links somewhat dilutes your effort, which is why I come back to article / comment / post quality.

I completely understand what you're getting at - what you're asking is, is it best to get a high PR link, of course. Is it easy to find one on a related topic? No. Therefore someone is going to have to create a large number of links to have the same effect with lower PR pages with less outgoing links.

In terms of this page, and its pagerank is currentl n/a, it still has the potential to get a lot of traffic, and if the information is of interest people may link to it after the fact. Again, this comes back to quality of information.

vapsjee · 09-13-2011, 12:56 AM

article marketing isnt a waste of time. if you submit them to top directories, it's more than worth the time.

ups1984 · 09-13-2011, 12:58 AM

Thanks for the replies guys.

Clint, can you suggest a good too for one way back links?

Martin, thanks for the detailed reply. I see you are an internet marketer. If I as you, what would you do to get a high PR ranking for a site which have genera topics, what would you say?

ups1984 · 09-13-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vapsjee

article marketing isnt a waste of time. if you submit them to top directories, it's more than worth the time.

I understand what you are saying...but my question was not about article marketing...that was an example, my point is simply, that is it worth it to get a backlink from a PR 0...as the page where the article appears will be PR 0...regardless of what PR the article directory is.

MartinPlatt · 09-13-2011, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ups1984

Thanks for the replies guys.

Clint, can you suggest a good too for one way back links?

Martin, thanks for the detailed reply. I see you are an internet marketer. If I as you, what would you do to get a high PR ranking for a site which have genera topics, what would you say?

Good content on your site, Article marketing, a bit of forum and blog commenting.

Article directories, I'd go GoArticles, EZineArticles, ArticleBase, ArticleDashboard, ArticleAlley maybe then you can also pay to get into some good private networks like blogging underground.

Pinky Painter · 09-13-2011, 01:54 AM

Posting an article to PR helps you in back link especially your site is still new. Of course, the piece of writing must be a quality one.

budhaya · 09-13-2011, 04:05 AM

you could always find a high pr or a edu site to post your article.

kt1000 · 09-13-2011, 05:31 AM

don`t pay attention to PR as it` only one from around 200 factor which google use to "judge" you site. Peaple has PR obsesion...pay attention to good content of your website instead of PR...

IM Ash · 09-13-2011, 09:05 AM

If you submitting articles for the SEO value you need to know that the juice that passes over is minimal. I submit articles but the only reason I do it is for diversity in my backlink profile.

Chances of your article moving to a PR1+ is close to impossible if there isn't a high volume of links pointing to it or atleast a handful of high PR links.

Yes, you are right... your time will be better spent trying to secure high PR backlinks!

09-13-2011, 12:08 AM	#1
ups1984 Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The PR dilemma So I was doing some link building yesterday and a question popped into my mind. let's say I submit an article with my website link to an article directory with a PR 5. Now this website in PR 5 but the page created with my article is probably PR 0. Now depending on the popularity and interaction on this article, it may go up to PR 1 - 4 or it may not and stay at PR 0. So in case it doesn't, will this back link be any useful to me from an SEO point of view? Coz the way I look at it is, if this ink is not useful then I should stop wasting my time and try to get backlinks from homepages or blogroll etc. What say?
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09-13-2011, 12:11 AM	#2
MartinPlatt Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 73 Thanks: 42 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: The PR dilemma I don't think it's so much the point of where the article is sitting, in a non-pageranked location, I think it's more about whether the article is good quality, and valuable to people. If it is, then you will get traffic, backlinks, and a better PR.
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09-13-2011, 12:22 AM	#3
ups1984 Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The PR dilemma Thanks for the reply Martin. This was ust one example...i.e. article marketing, but then you have cases of directory submissions, blog commenting, forum postings etc. For example, the warrior forum is PR 5, but this page that we are discussing on, is PR 0 and might stay that.
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09-13-2011, 12:58 AM	#7
ups1984 Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The PR dilemma Thanks for the replies guys. Clint, can you suggest a good too for one way back links? Martin, thanks for the detailed reply. I see you are an internet marketer. If I as you, what would you do to get a high PR ranking for a site which have genera topics, what would you say?
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09-13-2011, 01:54 AM	#10
Pinky Painter Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 35 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The PR dilemma Posting an article to PR helps you in back link especially your site is still new. Of course, the piece of writing must be a quality one.
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09-13-2011, 04:05 AM	#11
budhaya Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 32 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The PR dilemma you could always find a high pr or a edu site to post your article.

09-13-2011, 05:31 AM	#12
kt1000 Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The PR dilemma don`t pay attention to PR as it` only one from around 200 factor which google use to "judge" you site. Peaple has PR obsesion...pay attention to good content of your website instead of PR...

09-13-2011, 09:05 AM	#13
IM Ash SEO Extraordinaire War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 503 Thanks: 158 Thanked 183 Times in 88 Posts	Re: The PR dilemma If you submitting articles for the SEO value you need to know that the juice that passes over is minimal. I submit articles but the only reason I do it is for diversity in my backlink profile. Chances of your article moving to a PR1+ is close to impossible if there isn't a high volume of links pointing to it or atleast a handful of high PR links. Yes, you are right... your time will be better spent trying to secure high PR backlinks!