Problems With SEO

[rowanman28]

I have been having a lot of problems with SEO for my site Professional Social Promotion.

My hub on Hubpages got un-published cause it was against the terms of service, my Blogger blog just got deleted, the whole damn thing.

My site has slipped off the first page, and I'm sick of trying to get it back up there, cause as far as I can see, I would have to work every day for the rest of my life to keep it there, or pay someone most of the money I would make if I was there.

Screw it, I've got better things to do. I've got 50,000 Twitter followers on different accounts, and I can tweet them pages with a title like "make money now" or "lose weight fast" without having to worry about whether I could compete on Google for that title.

If one out of a hundred people click on a link, and if one person out of a hundred of those people buys something, then that's five sales on any page I make, which I can make in five minutes, and then set up the scheduled tweets.

I've had it with SEO.

[MikeFriedman]

I can play your game too...

I've had it with social media. It sucks. Everyday I lose followers on Facebook and Twitter. I have to spend hours every single day trying to attract just a few new followers. And most of the people I do attract seem completely unresponsive to what I am trying to sell down their throat. I feel like I am wasting all my time Tweeting and publishing status updates on all my different pages to keep them fresh and interesting, when I should be devoting my time to creating good solid content and new pages to promote.

On top of that, at any moment Twitter or Facebook can ban one of my accounts (and they have) and I lose all that work I have put into it.

For now on I am focusing all my time on SEO where I can find targeted traffic and zero in on people who are actually looking for what I am offering instead of me invading their social space. It seems the only way to build a lasting business.

See, it's real easy.

If you want to promote your social media services, that's fine. I would suggest you just stop doing it in such a blatant way by bashing SEO, in an SEO forum, no less. You have started multiple threads like this now.

Having a Hubpage and Blogger account deleted because you cannot follow their TOS in no way reflects poorly on SEO.

SEO is alive and well. Social Media is a great way to promote a business as well. Nobody has to choose one or the other. Actually, I would say someone is completely foolish to ignore either one in their business.

[TheFBGuy]

How long have you been doing SEO...?

[Tmill]

lol just because you got a few links taken down? obviously you don't know much about SEO. If you have other ways to market and they work better for you then go for it, but SEO will always be the best source of traffic. Maybe you are just doing SEO for a bad niche

[LakiPolitis]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

SEO is alive and well. Social Media is a great way to promote a business as well. Nobody has to choose one or the other. Actually, I would say someone is completely foolish to ignore either one in their business.

This ^^ The combo is where you make the killing.

Anyways, SEO isn't spam sites, rowanman. You want to run a spammy website and then complain that it gets taken down, that's like sticking your hand in the frying pan and hoping for the best.

People that want to have a website run for 5 - 10 years. Let's talk SEO. You're creating BS content every 10 minutes. You don't need it. Stop trashing something you don't understand, clearly.

[SwiftSEO]

Ok here the thing well optimized pages wont go down . i would like to share a small example here . We optimsed our website swiftsaves.com and it appearing on top 15 positions from past 1 year with term "online auctions uk" . and we wont work on it any more .you can check on your own also you can see the Competition on those keywords.

[rowanman28]

OK, well I don't have any money, at all, that's why I'm trying to sell services of any kind to make some money, and I've been doing SEO for two years, but going after more specific searches like my most popular article on Factoidz was: what are the most searched words on Google? I did a number of these, like: What are the most googled words on Google? What are the most searched things on Google? So I'm used to churning out article after article that doesn't really have anything new or interesting to say, but what if it doesn't even work? How do I know when I've tried as hard as I should try to compete for a Google search, when I don't even know how much money I would make once I got there?

[LakiPolitis]

Originally Posted by rowanman28

OK, well I don't have any money, at all, that's why I'm trying to sell services of any kind to make some money, and I've been doing SEO for two years, but going after more specific searches like my most popular article on Factoidz was: what are the most searched words on Google? I did a number of these, like: What are the most googled words on Google? What are the most searched things on Google? So I'm used to churning out article after article that doesn't really have anything new or interesting to say, but what if it doesn't even work? How do I know when I've tried as hard as I should try to compete for a Google search, when I don't even know how much money I would make once I got there?

You're trying to make lemonade out of chili sauce, man. That's not what SEO is for. If you want to game Google, you're going to get ruined. Your site will be blacklisted after its honeymoon. And your only option is going to be purchasing new domains, and making money on the honeymoon with Google.

Why don't you try to start a blog, monetize it by putting AdSense and writing sponsored articles. Or why don't you take your talents and develop them for clients. Build a portfolio site, do SEO work on it, monetize the blog you attach to it, and do SEO work for clients. You're not going to sustain a business model that violates Google's webmaster guidelines on Google...

[rowanman28]

Wait a minute, what are you saying I did that was violating Google's guidelines? I've been making back links from articles, isn't that what everybody said I was supposed to be doing? Why do you think my site would get black listed? The HubPages thing was because I had an opt-in form giving away a free e-book, and I don't know why my Blogger blog got deleted, I guess it's cause I was just making a lot of back links to different sites from it.

[Mark Jason]

The best way is to havbe blog with real content and get bunch of good links.

[nicktyler]

By your own admission you were churning out lots of articles with nothing new or interesting to say. I suggest this could be some of your problem and the reason you are obviously frustrated and probably bored with doing it.

[kkchoon]

You gave up SEO too early, and you've not found the correct way of article marketing, else you'll be getting thousands of visitors everyday - autopilot.

I do agree social media had a lot of traffic, but for me they are good for relationship building, not generating new traffic...

[rowanman28]

No it's not new traffic, but I've got about twenty subscribers, and I'm very new at the list building thing. I'm new at the website thing. I'm not convinced about the article syndication thing for back links. I guess I should give it a try, I've got nothing to lose. So should I just take an article from my site, and submit it to a site that allows republishing? Doesn't Google eventually de-index these copies of the same article?

[LakiPolitis]

Originally Posted by rowanman28

Wait a minute, what are you saying I did that was violating Google's guidelines? I've been making back links from articles, isn't that what everybody said I was supposed to be doing? Why do you think my site would get black listed?

You were essentially content scraping. You're not going to rank when you're content scraping. Especially if you're using blogger and content scraping, they'll simply delete your account. Your tip-toeing the spam line, and if you don't tip-toe it just right, they'll simply chalk you up to being a content scraper and ax you.

Read Matt Cutt's blog, you'll see.

[rowanman28]

What is content scraping? I wrote all original articles, some people spin articles, or just syndicate them. Everyone has a different opinion on what to do, and I just don't get it. I made a few more back link pages that were original content, it took me hours, and it all seems like spam to me. I give up.

[outwest]

And also I think the success or failure of ONE SITE should not determine longterm strategy for anything

[webgyorglobal]

Hi,
from how many days you r working for your website promotion.

Thanks,
Webgyor global

[brianlmaule]

SEO take time to get improvement