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Old 09-18-2011, 06:31 AM   #1
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I am thinking about spun content recently.

There are so many spin software in the market now, and it seems pretty easy to use, and seems like you can generate many versions of articles with it.

However I am thinking there is a big problem with it. Because you are using synonyms from the software, which I believe google must have a way to know they mean basically the same thing.

For example

{keyword a|keyword b|keyword c} all mean {keyword d}, at the end of the day, google will think all 3 articles are meant for keyword d, google will still think they are duplicate content or think it is spam.

So I think id you don't spin sentence or paragraph, sooner or later you will be caught.

Or maybe, spin sentence/paragraph is not even enough.

Maybe in the future, only unique content will stay, for all the blog networks, maybe only build my rank will stay, all the others will be banned by google.

any thoughts ?
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I am thinking about spun content recently.

There are so many spin software in the market now, and it seems pretty easy to use, and seems like you can generate many versions of articles with it.

However I am thinking there is a big problem with it. Because you are using synonyms from the software, which I believe google must have a way to know they mean basically the same thing.

For example

{keyword a|keyword b|keyword c} all mean {keyword d}, at the end of the day, google will think all 3 articles are meant for keyword d, google will still think they are duplicate content or think it is spam.

So I think id you don't spin sentence or paragraph, sooner or later you will be caught.

Or maybe, spin sentence/paragraph is not even enough.

Maybe in the future, only unique content will stay, for all the blog networks, maybe only build my rank will stay, all the others will be banned by google.

any thoughts ?
If you dont have the time to spin proper lingo then dont use them use alternative software such as speech recognition software or outsource it. If in doubt of duplicate content such as ABC=D use copyscape then see if your worries are true. If you want to ask google check the omitted results...

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Old 09-18-2011, 09:34 AM   #3
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Build your business for the long-term.

Article spinning is NOT a long term strategy in my opinion.

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Old 09-18-2011, 11:17 AM   #4
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Spinned content is only effective if you use it on second tire backlinks.

High Qualiy Blog Posts! 100% Unique Content.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:46 AM   #5
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Spun Content is Useful. There is no Doubt.

Because it is not possible to have 200 Unique article for 200 different links.. So use Spun Article there.

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Old 09-18-2011, 11:55 AM   #6
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Depends on what you're using it for. If it's purely to drive traffic from article directories, blogs etc - then not a good idea really as been discussed in depth already here. However if it's part of your overall SEO strategy in terms of gaining backlinks, can be viable but probably more so to build tier 2 type links.
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Old 09-18-2011, 12:30 PM   #7
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Build your business for the long-term.

Article spinning is NOT a long term strategy in my opinion.
I think he is talking about for building links to his links...always at least one degree of separation.

Obviously, you should never put spun content on your site or linking to it, but linking to your links...now that is a different story...

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Old 09-18-2011, 12:39 PM   #8
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Yes, of course.

I gave it up over 2 years ago, now, and do far better without it than with it.

The people gaining from it are the people selling spinning software and spinning services.

Nobody else.

Not marketers, not writers, not readers, not vendors, not affiliates, not backlinkers, not searchers, not customers ...

Nobody.

When you see people claiming benefits "from spinning", they're just misattributing the causation: they'd typically have had the exact same benefits doing whatever it was they did but without the spinning. The only people who often argue with this perspective are ... you guessed it: the people selling spinning software and services.

It's all an urban myth, because people who don't understand what "duplicate content" is are living in fear of "duplicate content penalties" and believing that they exist and can be avoided by "spinning".

This little article by a well-known, respected expert explains it all neatly enough.

Google's WebMaster Central Blog actually contains the words "Duplicate content doesn’t cause your site to be penalized". And most of what people think is duplicate content is actually syndicated content anyway. But even most people who understand the difference don't usually read what Google says on the subject, anyway: most people just repeat what other people say, so everyone's information is second-hand and mistaken, and in reality people end up believing and repeating what the guys selling the software/services want everyone to believe.

This thread will tell you what you really need to know about spinning.

But that's only for people who are willing to read it and think about it for themselves, of course.

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It only works for a while. Yes, Google detects spun content due to N-grams. So definitely not a worth thing to do. Better outsource your content to someone who offers cheap but quality articles.

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Spun articles are good and effective as long as it was spun correctly with 90 percent difference from the original.

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i think you can make a reasonable apply of spun content. i want to show it in three aspects:
firstly:yes, spun content has a risk of punishment. especially after Panda. So, from the quantity, you should decrease them.
secondly:spun content are not the same, they also have levels. i mean different quality, you can use some good rewrite tool to make them more like original ones.
thirdly:spun content is necessary, because it can make sure your update frequency.
in a word,the best way is using rewrite tool to do a huge rewrite, and try your best compose more original content.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:54 PM   #12
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Default Re: spun content should we stop

Well said, nobody yet has clear concept about the content duplication and even the requirement varies in accordance with the website niche. If you are doing SEO to generate backlinks for the website and you have to work under restriction than spinner may help you but if you are sit to improve overall seo strategy and want to rank for the targeted keywords, you should go for unique content.
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I just submitted a press release that was distributed over 30k times as indexed in Google....no duplicate content penalties. Syndicated content is duplicate?, is CBS, NBC, or any of the thousands of local newspapers getting "hit" with duplicate content penalties? Nope! Submit once, make sure it gets indexed, and then submit as many times as you would like.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:09 PM   #14
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There are arguments for both. Since I started HEAVILY spinning ie. paragraphs, sentences, phrases AND words, for 4 or 5 levels, of have seen awesome results. This is when used for raw backlinks only, not for syndication or article traffic.
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