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| Active Warrior Join Date: May 2011 Location: India
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We all know we need to be extra careful when it comes to a new site, in terms of link building. Build too many links (or low quality links from pages with spammy OBLs) in a short period of time and BAM you're sandboxed. So, my question is, if you have a brand new site, how many backlinks would you build to this site every day in the beginning and what will you increase the number to after 1 week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, and so on? (Just for the record, I'm talking about GOOD quality links here - blog comments on quality blogs, web 2.0 directory submissions, social bookmarks, contextual links from blogs, etc. No spam. My point is just about the "quantity" of links you'd build here, assuming quality is fine.) Personally, I'm not an SEO expert, but from what I know and have experienced, I would probably start by building 10 links in the first week, around 20-25 new next week, 30-40 the third week, and so on. Do you think that's okay? That rate won't risk the site being sandboxed, will it? |
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Surrey, England
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This is a massive grey area, some people say backlinks can't negatively affect your website and others say they can. Personally I think they can as well so I normally build about 10 links for the first week, maybe 12 or so for the second and just do it consistently with very high PR blog comments. This gets me ranked slowly but I feel its safer |
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2011
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I have always built them manually, as fast as I can go. I have never had a problem doing this. When I purchased them 20k at a time, I noticed a temporary setback. Might have been coincidence, but then again maybe not. |
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Ease into it. If you can get high-quality links (not spammy), you should be A-OK.
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| Plundering the Web War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , , .
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Where do you people get this stuff? Build as many links as you can. Period. Such nonsense. Low quality links won't even be seen. Links you build today even take a while to be seen. So that whole scenario just falls apart. Have you people never heard of "viral"? I've said it before and I'll keep repeating it. You had better put big signs on your sites saying, "Don't link to me! I am afraid that I get them too fast, or not good enough, or, or,or,..." Yeah. Sure. You go extra slow and careful and let your competition leave you in the dust. Do you people ever want to make money? Paul | |
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What is "Google Sandbox"? It's just a Myth. Nothing else. As long as you are building manual, Quality (as you said) backlinks with a consistent diversity, nothing gonna happen like so called Sand Box. P.S. For any site specially New one, QUALITY and HELPFUL content should be the First Priority. It'll bring your site even at First page without any effort. |
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United Kingdom
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I agree with Mr.Paulgl. My teacher does websites for people all the time and he does like 5,000 backlinks in a week!! 10-25 is nothing you need 10000 backlinks 1st month minimum. 10-25....HA! |
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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2011
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I've read over here posts from many people worried about the google "sandbox", you shouldn't worry that much, as long as you don't send hundreds of thousands of spammy low quality links in a short period of time you are under the radar. It reminds me to a thread I read months ago (here on WF), of a guy who said that he would create 1 link the first year, 2 links the second year, 3 links the third year and so on to not get sandboxed. He was serious on this. Yep, google's "sandbox" fear has gone to this extent! | |
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Dang it! Paul got here before I did! |
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| Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2011
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I have spent countless hours building backlinks to my sites without much luck. I have never used a paid service to build these links for me. Has anyone had good success with a paid service that can offer 20k links for a certain price? |
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Low quality links won't ever be seen? What about if you ping them all?
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010
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Brand new sites go for 50+ article submission and 1000 social bookmarks. Straight into site, don't worry about tiered linking, you're links will slowly get indexed by big G at a natural rate. Ramp it up week 3-4 after you see your keywords drop in somewhere in the top 100 |
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| Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Goowai is based in Italy, but provides services to clients worldwide.
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Backlinks cannot harm your website. On page factors (things that are under your control) can have a negative effect on rankings (eg: having too many outbound links on your site).
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| Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Italy
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You can build as many as you want.Because they want be indexed in the same time.
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| Advanced Warrior Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pearl of the East - Pilipinas
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When I had my first website, I blasted it with links from different sources. I didn't experienced the what you called "sandbox"?! What I did was I just make sure that the links that I was building was not from crappy websites.So I think there's nothing to worry about building many links to a new site because Google will not crawl and index them all at the same time. The thing is that, don't get links from spammy websites, if that happens, then you would definitely get your site hurt and you might experience what you believe is "sandbox"?!?!?!?!?!? ![]() ![]() | |
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The reason for the Sandbox is because Google see's 10,000 links show up (viralness - yes?!) and throws your rank down. Why? To see if those links coming in are SEOed or viral of course! Obviously not all 10,000 links came from Google searches alone - they came from people talking about it, presenting a viral aspect. To defeat this 'sandbox'? Just keep building that many links at that same velocity. If Google de-ranks you, and you build zero backlinks the next 3 days - they know what's going on, it's pretty damn obvious. But if your website is truly 'viral' it will keep getting thousands of links per day so they cannot punish you for that. The question you have to ask yourself - how much link velocity can you HANDLE? If you start at 10,000 backlinks, you better be building 5,000-15,000 links A DAY to keep out of Google's radar. If you do not have that many backlinking resources, then just limit yourself to how many you DO have. When I begin all my backlinking, I take all my backlinks and divide by 365 (1 year). This basically tells me how many backlinks I can build each day to keep up with my velocity. |
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| Real Person, Real Results War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2011
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You can build as many links as you want, as fast as you want. The key is to remain somewhat consistent with your link building velocity. Your goal is not to get as many links as you can though. Your purpose is to gain authority for your keyword in the eyes of the search engines. Keep that purpose in mind as you develop your link building campaign. You want quality links mixed in with a wide range of lesser (profiles, AA comments) links from varying domains.
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Kentucky, Trimble City
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It is not preferable for a new site to create multiple number of links eventually it can harm your site. Just make a moderate link building first until it become mature.
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how can i build links?? any easiest way ?? and kindly tell me,what about exchange of links?
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