Got tank by Big Google- 15 adsense site de-index at once!

[Born2rule]

I just notice that my entire 15 adsense site got tank by Google, am not sure why, some of the site that got de-index are PR1-3.
I have now remove adsense code from the other new site that was not affected, just to be on the safe side. The only thing all the site have in common is that they are in the same analytic account, of cause the same adsense code. They were all on share hosting account, at "host gator" and "host monster". Now am not sure whether to just dumb the AdSense account altogether, hence now under G raider now. I don't remember doing anything wrong with my adsense account, all the site are on mix niche, why this happen I don't really know, big G can do whatever they like, no question ask right? Nonetheless lesson learn! Oh they did leave out the much older site with PR4, they just relegated the site from position #3 on first page to around page 5! Folks don’t rely on Google ensure you diversify! Whatever happen we don’t give up.


Thanks for your kind comment in advance. Am sorry to spread bad news!

[outwest]

If I start doing really well on Adsense, (I hope) I would open 1 possibly two more accounts, different banks, different businesses

if you had a huge amount of money coming in on only one acct and they got a burr up their google butt for some reason, that would be way bad

[razorhound]

Do you mind to show one of the sites to see what's wrong with it?

[Jeremy Banks]

Please share links to some of your websites.

[JMartin]

Same host, template, ip, account, etc doesn't matter. Neither does making money.

Sorry to hear your story. Usually it's people violating ToS in some way. Google doesn't care if you have sites in the same place or if you make money.

[futuremills]

more info would help in trying to figure what happened. Did you have a contact page, about, and privacy policy? Were these one page websites? Did you have the same theme for all of them? How much per day were you making?

[Born2rule]

Thanks you all for your concern, here is one of the site "dentaluniforms.org yes all the site does have admin pages "contact page, about, and privacy policy" etc. 7 of the effected site share the same theme thou. The site was not making much money from adsense, average of $15 a day from all the site combine. One thing thou is it wise to continue to use the same AdSense account for my other site?

[ichl13]

Could possible be because on some of your posts or "pages" you only have about 300 words of content and then 2 massive adsense boxes which could get you done for thin content.

[bdavisx]

Well on the site you pointed to, your contact forms page isn't working.

[futuremills]

Originally Posted by Born2rule

Thanks you all for your concern, here is one of the site "dentaluniforms.org yes all the site does have admin pages "contact page, about, and privacy policy" etc. 7 of the effected site share the same theme thou. The site was not making much money from adsense, average of $15 a day from all the site combine. One thing thou is it wise to continue to use the same AdSense account for my other site?

thats sucks, i would say the problem was that the site did not have much content on each page, and it looks like a pure MFA. How high up were you ranking, what type of link building did you do? Something which leaves a big footprint could be your culprit too

[Jacob Cuculiza]

Dental Uniforms - Have your dental uniforms at a greater level of professionalism looks a bit like a "made for adsense" site, that could maybe be the reason. More content, less ads.

[Born2rule]

But the other site has excess of 500 words article and uses different theme with less ads and more contents. Link building was moderate mainly done thru BMR. Almost all the site was on first page. Would you continue to use the same adsense acc?

[art72]

After reading several threads lately concerning "G" de-indexing sites, it almost seems to me that the amount of investment (time, money, and effort) it takes to please "G" it appears easier to promote affiliate products around your niche. Whether be it eBooks from Amazon, CB products, or creating your own... too many horror stories about "G" has me steering clear of making them my 1st priority in any "sense" of the word.

Now understanding, there are several marketer's who have had great success with AdSense, it leaves those like myself (green to AdSense, admittedly)to wonder; "what's the point of placing so much reliance and effort into such low payout percentages, with little or no control over the outcome?

Unless your targeting mesothelioma, or superior "keywords" it seems the volume of sites, the volume of traffic, and the work to "please" the almighty "G" is a scary gamble, for a low return, and a constant threat of getting sandboxed.

Be it, "G" runs the show, and we get to pay to to attend the show (one way or another) I respect the necessity to place some stock in their ever-expanding monopoly, as it's almost unavoidable.

But from a newcomer's perspective regarding building sites, I feel for your loss, as it's a lot of work building pr1-pr3 sites. Forgive my rant, as I too have slowly started integrating AdSense into a few sites, but I am doing so with the focus on content 1st, affiliate sales 2nd, and AdSense last!

Besides, they suspended me for life from AdWords, all because I was playing around with my 1st ad... that I 'ignorantly' linked to a CB product. Don't get me wrong, I was at fault, and even with that admission, they refused to reinstate my account.

I mean give me a break, if the not for the little guys (and gals) like us IM'ers... they wouldn't be so HUGE!

Again, sorry for your loss... I would replace them with relevant "affiliate commissions" and tell them keep their BS!

Just my 2 cents.


All the Best,

Art

PS - For those who have been considering multiple AdSense accounts...that too will get you de-indexed, so, if you go that route, be sure you have the bases covered.

[discustipated]

man i just started out but i stripped all my thin content sites down and outsourced 1500 word articles and im adding tons of content to fill up for the ads so that it is valuable and doesn't look like a MFA site. Im going to focus on affiliate products and cpa offers to so ill be ok if this ever happens to me. it sounds like google doesn't give a **** about its publishers.

[futuremills]

Originally Posted by Born2rule

Thanks you all for your concern, here is one of the site "dentaluniforms.org yes all the site does have admin pages "contact page, about, and privacy policy" etc. 7 of the effected site share the same theme thou. The site was not making much money from adsense, average of $15 a day from all the site combine. One thing thou is it wise to continue to use the same AdSense account for my other site?

test it out , try it on a site maybe you dont care too much about(its always good to have these sites). If you are really paranoid make a company adsense account. all it takes is getting a DBA or LLC set up

[Born2rule]

Thanks art72, you are right "G" runs the show, even worse if you a building your business around adsense revenue.. affiliate products and cpa offers are the way to go if you wanna play this game and win all the time.

Thanks Futuremills, I will consider company adsense account then.

[Dumkist]

This really made me smile..finally the greedy bastards are In the hot seat !

Google head disputes that company thwarts rivals - Yahoo! News

[Born2rule]

"quote unquote"
Yep big “G” " run the racetrack, own the racetrack," now also owns some of the horses and "they certainly seem to be winning," by"doping the horses."
Not being on Google is the equivalent to not existing on the net, how true?

[Born2rule]

Jrv 26, its may not be the best blog, but certainly there are a lot worst site with adsense out there, you oviously dont know what you are talking about, but that was not the reason for de-index!

[domaining]

very odd. They removed you from search but did not ban your adsense.

Maybe due to the fact that it is such a thin website with errors/broken links.

Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /home/settime/public_html/NATURALFACEMASKS/wp-config.php on line 1 with your sitemap.

contact form is not correct.

Perhaps fix these issues, try to build some more / better content. Build some more links. and see if the issue gets resolved.

I would like to know the real issue here though.

[tycoon828]

On your dentaluniforms.org site, the sitemap points to naturalfacemasks.org/sitemap.xml, and it doesn't work.

This seems the real reason.

[Born2rule]

Thanks “tycoon828” and “domainingfor” for your in-depth analyses of the site, I will fix the error and resubmit via webmaster tools and see what happen, the DB error is probably due to hosting move from Godady to hostgator back in August 10th 2011. But if two of my sites has an issue, would that be a reason for Google to de-index almost all the site on my adsense account?

[Texjd]

I've seen many far worse MFA sites. But you might have fallen under a manual review and for whatever reason got the ax.

Some websites are never worth the effort to bring back, have to take a hard look at the ROI and time necessary.

As far as content goes, you could add some about related useful info like the best way to clean uniforms, why some are better than others, latest styles, etc. Make posts 500-650 with related terms. Use some diversity in lnks, some "naked" and from multiple soruces like videos, PR's, social bookmarking, etc.

Adsense is always at risk, and n the last year it's been brutal.

[masspingtool]

same here.. my 10 blogspot deleted by google
like a rocket that falls to me very sad

[ChartTraderZ]

Strange.

Did you do too many backlinks? Share with us.

It happened to me 2 weeks ago ... 2-years old site that I was doing nothing to. Started posting on daily basis and the site rose to #2 at page 1 (!), i built very few links .. around 8 links.

Now it disappeared completely ....

[Talen]

If all your sites were like the dental uniform site then it's very easy to see why the were de-indexed.

Not only is the site thin it gives absolutely 0 real information to the user and it's written horribly. Clearly it's an MFA site and google hates poorly done MFA sites.

You need to give real information.

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by domaining

very odd. They removed you from search but did not ban your adsense.

Maybe due to the fact that it is such a thin website with errors/broken links.

Parse error: syntax error, unexpected in /home/settime/public_html/NATURALFACEMASKS/wp-config.php on line 1 with your sitemap.

contact form is not correct.

Perhaps fix these issues, try to build some more / better content. Build some more links. and see if the issue gets resolved.

I would like to know the real issue here though.

Not odd at all. Many people still don't realize that there's a WebMaster Department at Google whose primary concern is quality results and they do manual reviews of sites.. and they outsource a lot of people who do nothing else but manual reviews.. and all it takes is one manual reviewer who broke up with her boyfriend last night, stubbed her toe before turning the computer on and found your site(s) first. The reviewers have nothing to do with the AdSense team so you'll very rarely (if ever) see a site deindexed with AdSense removed at the same time.

Like someone else said though.. I've seen (and have) far worse MFA sites. But.. Google is getting stricter and stricter about pulling sites from the results and keeping only what they deem to be quality sites. My neighbor lost several thousand a month over night earlier this year when his entire network was hit. I have about 15 out there that got deindexed all in one night. I rebuilt them under a new domain name the next day. They're all doing better.

One big important rule: Don't ever list your sites in Google Analytics and WebMaster Tools unless you have a true authority site that can't be confused with MFA.

and Art72.. Getting "sandboxed" is completely different than de-indexed.

Sorry about your hit though. It's a sucky feeling but just bounce back stronger!

[LakiPolitis]

Either you content scrape or you duplicate content:

Wearing dental uniforms does not need to be a drab anymore. At present, dentists with their associates and staff can come to work comfortably and in style. - Google Search

Google hates that.

[molan]

i had the same thing happned to me couple months ago...
after searching a lot, my answer is that no one really know's why..
but the main reason are:
- short main page- make it a blog roll with lots of articles in the main page, not only 1 sticky page
- different theme- and legit one! to every single site!
- legit content!
- legit linking! its better to make linking with different articles than making backlinks with spun versions of your article..

but basically i think, it has a lot to do with the theme and blog roll...again , if they site looked legit and cool one, no human who review your site will deindexed it....
use "artisteer" to make unique themes....that look pretty legit and unique..i belief this by itself can help a lot to not deindexed you...

but again those are all speculations...no one really knows! so we just need to hope for the best!

[Born2rule]

Thanks outwest, Your could be right, the only site that was not affected was the site with excess of 50+ index pages, again this is pure speculations...no one really knows, except big "G"!
LakiPolitis, some of the other affected site, I have not done any back links to them recently thou!
guitarjosh, thanks for your advice, I may try the " new domain name" method, do you then move to another host as well?

[paulgl]

Using google is a choice.

Why blame them for playing the game they want to play?

If you can't stand google, stop using them. Stop relying on them.
Stop taking their money. Stop the insanity.

spicoli - YouTube

If dentaluniforms.org is an example of your sites, they are junk. Pure junk.

You toss junk up and wonder why google may not like it?

Has nothing to do with a privacy page. I don't know why people go
ga-ga over something like that. Your dentaluniforms.org is a useless
page. Zero value. Oh wait. Except fishing for an adsense click.

Paul

[jflexvegas]

I have over 500 categories ranging from 1500 word articles to 30 word articles. All written by me original unique content. Google won't do anything to my site i read the TOS.

[InTheMaking]

I think whats more important is the fact that "TryBPO" has created that certain site, and sold it on Flippa.

They sell tons of sites for sometimes over 12 months rev. I actually talked to them a few weeks ago and he told me that they actually met with a Google Rep and that they're websites they have been creating were fine, and suggested they keep promoting their sites.

Now, I'm not saying that TryBPO caused this, because I just did a few searches for their sites, and all of their rankings still seem to be holding up. What's more important is what you did to cause this?

[paulgl]

Originally Posted by LakiPolitis

Either you content scrape or you duplicate content:
Google hates that.

No matter. That site is junk. Pure junk.

I don't know why people just cannot get it through their think
skulls that if you put out junk-garbage-sites, don't be surprised
at google de-indexing you.

The thing to do is become a member of this forum, read, learn,
BEFORE you start putting out junk like that and swearing at
google for making you poor.

Paul

[SERPWizzard]

Originally Posted by ChartTraderZ

Strange.

Did you do too many backlinks? Share with us.

It happened to me 2 weeks ago ... 2-years old site that I was doing nothing to. Started posting on daily basis and the site rose to #2 at page 1 (!), i built very few links .. around 8 links.

Now it disappeared completely ....

That could be the Google dance. Keep posting content and build a few quality links a day. It will probably come back stronger.

[Born2rule]

I already contacted TryBPO, they been very helpful, they said their sites were not affected, I don't thinks they are the caused.

[Buyseech]

I said it once and I ll say it again ... "Give the people what they want = give Google what he wants and he will reward you plenty...try to trick him and outsmart him...be ready for blood and tears."

My 2 cents...

[LakiPolitis]

Originally Posted by paulgl

No matter. That site is junk. Pure junk.

I don't know why people just cannot get it through their think
skulls that if you put out junk-garbage-sites, don't be surprised
at google de-indexing you.

The thing to do is become a member of this forum, read, learn,
BEFORE you start putting out junk like that and swearing at
google for making you poor.
Paul

I absolutely agree, man. Content Scraping isn't a compliment. It's a blatant way to get de-indexed. Content like that is designed to piss of Google inherently. Please the Gods...

[Born2rule]

Thanks you warrior for your input, lesson learn, warning, don’t make it easy for “G” to knock you down, give them an arm’s length, don’t list all your site in AdSense account, neither list all your site in one analytic/webmaster tools Acc. My only adsense site that was save were not listed in “G” properties at all, but have adsense code!

[axus_auto]

Are you sure they are de-indexed or did their rankings just fall?

[Domsa]

I haven't check your site, but here's what I would do in your shoes:

1) Check the quality of my content.

Get a native speaker to review it if the language barrier is keeping you from offering quality content. If it's simply garbage, take some time and do some research of the topic & content writing. Have each post have at least 500 words.

2) Read Google's ToS

Go through every single point and sincerely ask yourself if you are in a clear or have you been naughty. Don't lie to yourself since it won't really help you.

3) Make the necessary changes

As far as I have figured it out, Panda is focusing a lot on garbage and/or duplicate content. Generally make sure your content passes Copyscape to be sure it's not a duplicate of something. Furthermore, if you have made a wordpress post your homepage, you will have 2 urls with the same content. For example:

ilikepie.com
ilikepie.com/i-like-pie

I usually correct it by making the homepage a Page, not a Post.

4) File a reconsideration request

Tell them what you think the issues were and how you resolved them. Also note any black hat SEO you have done. They are not idiots, they know what you have done so hiding things won't help you.

Good luck

[boxoun]

Seo content is zero value. Listing places where you can find top ten favorite holiday theme uniforms...more value.

[dagaul101]

It could possibly be that some links your site was on was penalised and that penality was passed on to you, it's a great idea to diversify

[sjtmdwns]

It's kinda sad that this site was obviously bought on flippa from TryBpo adsense flippa website.

Build MFA and flipping them, maybe you should contact the person who you bought it from and ask them to review.

[dudeshane01]

did you try searching for your site by the below query ?
site:yoursite.com

First make sure your sites are de-indexed and not just facing a google dance.
If your site does not show up using above query, then it smells badluck.
They will almost never re-index automatically.
You need to submit and application for manual review if your site is not blackhat.

[dmtaylor247]

I've had a look at your site, firstly I've got to disagree with some people on here slagging off duplicate content. OK it's not ideal but it's not to say they will ban a site based on duplicate content.

I bought an autoblog of Flippa 2 months ago and it ranks in the top #3 in Google with over 5000 duplicate posts, admitedly it was total crap but I'm working on it and hopefully it will get better.

...the main point is to add value, your site just blabbers on about medical scrubs, no advice tips, vouchers, prices, size guides, links to suppliers, just search engine fodder and adsense ads.

You have 5 pages, this is thin content
You used one main source to build links
You bought sites that were clearly MFA
The theme is built for adsense clicks
You've never updated the website.

When you look at these points you can see why you got the ban hammer, the main thing is to keep improving these websites and making them useful, otherwise Google will catch up with it and it won't last.

[InternetMarketingIQ]

Google as a Registrar has information on nearly all sites. Form an LLC and register in Proxy.

Unfortunately Google also likes to apply penalty to accounts not to individual sites. So one little misstep and they take down the whole deal! And figuring out what they filtered/penalized can be a real chore in itself.

[4morereferrals]

Originally Posted by Born2rule

I just notice that my entire 15 adsense site got tank by Google, am not sure why, some of the site that got de-index are PR1-3.
I have now remove adsense code from the other new site that was not affected, just to be on the safe side. The only thing all the site have in common is that they are in the same analytic account, of cause the same adsense code. They were all on share hosting account, at "host gator" and "host monster". Now am not sure whether to just dumb the AdSense account altogether, hence now under G raider now. I don't remember doing anything wrong with my adsense account, all the site are on mix niche, why this happen I don't really know, big G can do whatever they like, no question ask right? Nonetheless lesson learn! Oh they did leave out the much older site with PR4, they just relegated the site from position #3 on first page to around page 5! Folks don’t rely on Google ensure you diversify! Whatever happen we don’t give up.


Thanks for your kind comment in advance. Am sorry to spread bad news!

These sites were purchased from a pretty big adsense portfolio and warrior forum celeb :-)

Theme footer is the footprint.

On their blog TryBPO inidicates they had several site hit with de indexing due to another adsense vendor ripping off their site and contents and duplicating it.

I suspect these were in that mix. I suspect more will be coming.

[4morereferrals]

Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ

Google as a Registrar has information on nearly all sites. Form an LLC and register in Proxy.

Unfortunately Google also likes to apply penalty to accounts not to individual sites. So one little misstep and they take down the whole deal! And figuring out what they filtered/penalized can be a real chore in itself.

I hear that often, not sure what that truly means "for" or "against" my domain registration details privacy.

How does them being a registrar allow them to breach the privacy contract I have with my registrar of choice? Name.com / namecheap.com, 1and1 etc...?

"Hi, we're google and we'd like you to just tell us the details of the domains ownership?" Sans a subpeona - somebody in deep bandini if they do that.

[Kauzmo]

While Paul G may have been a bit harsh, his words do ring true. Your site offers no real value to the visitor. When they type dental uniforms in the search box there is an expectation, are you fulfilling that expectation with your content?

As Paul said, no you are not.

Google is looking at your site from the visitors perspective and you have a site that ignores the visitor. It is clearly designed to funnel search traffic to ad-sense advertisements. This is a huge issue for these types of sites now.