I have $2k budget for SEO I need help on what to do

[tryinghard]

Hi,

I have a budget of $2k for a website for the SEO. I would like to know what methods I can use so that my website will rank 1st page of google.

This keyword is on the level of "hard keywords" but not "very hard". I just want my budget to be spent on methods that is worth it and would generate results.

I have already look around the for hire section will be using some of the interesting service there. I would just like some more ideas because maybe I missed some service or I am just not aware of the impact of a certain service. Also, maybe there are more way/methods out there for SEO that is not listed in the for hire section in WF.

Thanks for the help fellow warriors!

Edit: thanks for all the reply fellow warriors. Yes, I'm kinda new in SEO but I can off course decide what services are great based on other member reviews. I just want to have more choices before I will narrow down on what services I would use.

I have use one service here before and gave me good results but sadly the guy does not respond anymore and I think his service thread is not active anymore.

Looking for more great services that could help my business.

PS: It wont help if they self promote and then I can't see any proof and reviews. Off course I would only choose the best. I can combine the services that I will choose so I'm sure it would at least generate the best possible results.

Case study would help but only if there are solid proof.

[sandy11]

I use

http://www.warriorforum.com/warriors...-discount.html

http://www.warriorforum.com/warriors...g-reviews.html

and see good result so far. they have lots of reviews.

Hope that helps

Sandy

[MikeFriedman]

With that amount of money, you could look at buying aged, high PR existing domains to setup your own network.

It gives you the added benefit of being able to use the network to rank other projects in the future.

Of course, you need to know what you are doing before you just go haphazardly buying domains.

[mosthost]

I'd spend the $2,000 on something else and stick to free SEO

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

With that amount of money, you could look at buying aged, high PR existing domains to setup your own network.

Every other piece of advice on this thread so far is a total waste of money INCLUDING the advice to spend it on something not related to SEO. Why should the OP NOT spend it on his business if he has it? Its total malarkey to claim that free SEo is efficient. Thats why they run around here dropping signature links to get their sites indexed and ranked. Terribly inefficient and lots of time a big waste of time compared with doing more productive things.

[eljeffe77]

I've been using Matt LaClears SEO Services quite a bit with moderate success so far.

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...than-rest.html

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by eljeffe77

I've been using Matt LaClears SEO Services quite a bit with moderate success so far.

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...than-rest.html

IF the Op has the kind of money that he claims then he can do better than moderate success and for a whole lot of keywords.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by outwest

So you advise newbies to drop thousands of dollars having someone else do their SEO (half of whom dont even know what they are doing) (example all the backlink blast companies selling blasts which may get your site deindexed)
instead of LEARNING SEO, (which is the only longterm strategy that is reliable)

I take it they don't teach how to read in schools anymore where you live. If you don't know what is being talked about then ask, Building a network has nothing to do with having someone else do your seo its about YOU doing your SEO. Buy a clue sometimes. Your search of the internets SEO lessons are not doing well.

So the guy is now going to pay thousands of dollars for EACH of his sites to have them properly SEO'd?
ya thats sounds logical LOL

ROFL - NO boy genius a network will rank MULTIPLE sites. How many times in a month can you demonstrate you don't have a clue about what SEO is. Yukon may have left for spam but seriously its these crappy posts that are not much better than spam that drives people away. As I recall you are the same guy that claimed .infos are hard to rank while claiming 90% of the board doesn't know SEO - thereby demonstrating that you are in the 90%.

Build My Rankrank built out a network. Ever heard of them? SO has every homepage backlink seller and a bunch of other services. If the OP spends 2,000 dollars buildign out the beginning of a network he can do his own SEO not hire someone else. You didn't even know what was being talked about before you came in claiming nonsense.

time out in the corner

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by outwest

So you advise newbies to drop thousands of dollars having someone else do their SEO (half of whom dont even know what they are doing) (example all the backlink blast companies selling blasts which may get your site deindexed)
instead of LEARNING SEO, (which is the only longterm strategy that is reliable)

Ya that makes about as much sense as paying rankPay 250 bucks a month to rank your site on page 3 with crappy kws. IMO if you want to have a future in this buss you HAVE to learn to do SEO yourself, if nothing else to make sure your sites are properly SEO'd. I would not rely on a third party for that.

So the guy is now going to pay thousands of dollars for EACH of his sites to have them properly SEO'd?
ya thats sounds logical LOL

I would argue that learning SEO for yourself is actually not a smart strategy for everyone. In fact, it is not a smart strategy for most people.

Most of the people I have met or talked to that are really successful online, have no clue what a title tag, meta description, or pagerank even is. They outsource their SEO. They outsource a lot of things.

Large companies are not learning how to do SEO. They are paying people with the knowledge of how to do it to implement it for them.

Now if you are brand new to internet marketing and have no budget, of course it would be silly to spend money on SEO. It would be equally as silly to spend money on content writing, building websites, and a host of other things.

However, if you have the budget, the #1 thing you should spend the money on is traffic generation. That can be through SEO, social promotion, PPC, whatever.

Most of the big gurus out there hardly do a thing except think up ideas to promote. Then they pay other people to implement it.

If you have the resources, you would be an idiot to try to do everything on your own.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Most of the people I have met or talked to that are really successful online, have no clue what a title tag, meta description, or pagerank even is. They outsource their SEO. They outsource a lot of things.

Large companies are not learning how to do SEO. They are paying people with the knowledge of how to do it to implement it for them.

Thats because there are adults in IM that have two quarters to rub together and they make $25,$50, $100, $200 per hour doing their business. They would actually LOSE money learning SEO because it would take them away from the work that makes them 4 and five times what their SEO charges them.

That blows the minds of some wannabe successfuls here. The surest sign that some one is not successful online is they see $2,000 and think wow thats a ton load of money. Notice no question about the niche the OP is in, the conversion rates and the per conversion profit. They think that everyone should do everything or even some things because at this point in their busines they make so little that they save money doing SEO themselves. Newsflash I do SEO for a living and on occassion I will hire another SEO to work on a site because I am making more doing something else with those hours.

If people Learned something about real business and especially about SEO before spouting off this board would be far better than it is at the moment.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by outwest

Never said large companies should do their own SEO
Of course they outsource it

How many newbies on this forum are owners of large companies? probably zero percent

the newbies on this forum are trying to learn to make websites , and either by Amazon, Adsense Clickbank whatever make money through affilliate marketing, get paid by google or whatever.

Those are the people I am talking about
Not owners of large companies looking to establish or expand their presence online

I think the fact this guy has only 2000 dollars for SEO kind of confirms he is not the owner of a large company, that would be a pretty paltry SEO budget considering many large companys spend 10k a month on SEO

I'm well aware he is not the owner of a large company.

My point was that if he has the budget to spend money on traffic generation, he should absolutely do it versus learning how to do all that crap himself.

He is thinking like a business owner, not like a small-minded IM'er.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by outwest

the newbies on this forum are trying to learn to make websites , and either by Amazon, Adsense Clickbank whatever make money through affilliate marketing, get paid by google or whatever.

Wrong and dead wrong. Those are not the only people that come to this section so quit pretending to be talking for everyone. I meet and get PMs all the time from newbie Warriors that are doing none of those. They are selling their own services, products and promoting their offline business PLUs many of them have full time jobs that pay them well and families and don't have the time to learn SEO in addition to float their dreams. Because you can't come up with any idea of your own to promote besides being an affiliate or getting paid for random clicks doesn't mean you speak for the whole board.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

He is thinking like a business owner, not like a small-minded IM'er.

That about sums it up

[larkykid]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

With that amount of money, you could look at buying aged, high PR existing domains to setup your own network.

It gives you the added benefit of being able to use the network to rank other projects in the future.

Of course, you need to know what you are doing before you just go haphazardly buying domains.

What sort of budget are you talking? Say if you wanted to start of with about 50 sites initially. Without getting into all the technical details, is the main idea just a case of buying these high PR aged domains and slapping them up onto a SEO hosting plan that delivers different class C IPs. Must agree, sounds such a powerful plan. Unfortunately, also the requirement for a very large starting budget and presumably, a high level of knowledge and experience with SEO.

[InitialEffort]

Here is one of the services I provide:

[GUARANTEED RANK INCREASE] SE Slingshot - High PageRank Blog Posts

You can take a look through some of the examples and see how the difficulty of your keyword aligns with some of the keywords we have done.

[larkykid]

checked it out, looks good.

[dtang4]

Here is how I do SEO these days, adjusted for Panda, and have had decent success...

I write my own unique articles and manually integrate spintax to ensure that it's readable. Since you have a nice budget, you can easily outsource to people who speak perfect English.

I then feed my articles through Linkpushing. I re-use my unique articles by "shuffling" the content (i.e. reordering paragraphs, reordering sentences) so that I don't need to constantly write new articles.

If you're not familiar w/ Linkpushing, it's a paid service that gives you X linkpushes a month, depending on your package. Each linkpush will create a 3-tier linking structure composed of a number of different web properties, e.g. blogs, microblogs, articles, docushare sites.

After my linkpushes are created, I feed them into BacklinksIndexer. This service will add a 4th tier and get my first tiers indexed by Google. It does this with a variety of web properties, e.g. blogs, social bookmarks.

Rinse and repeat.

[vtotheyouknow]

Hey brother, look what you started!

Here's my honest opinion and recommendation: outsource a lot of high quality content and then pay somebody to syndicate that content to high-quality, RELEVANT websites.

This is a value-adding, future-proof strategy that improves your SEO significantly, especially after Panda.

Good luck!
Vic

Originally Posted by tryinghard

Hi,

I have a budget of $2k for a website for the SEO. I would like to know what methods I can use so that my website will rank 1st page of google.

This keyword is on the level of "hard keywords" but not "very hard". I just want my budget to be spent on methods that is worth it and would generate results.

I have already look around the for hire section will be using some of the interesting service there. I would just like some more ideas because maybe I missed some service or I am just not aware of the impact of a certain service. Also, maybe there are more way/methods out there for SEO that is not listed in the for hire section in WF.

Thanks for the help fellow warriors!

[robrave]

Wow that's a large budget but considering if you are after a very competitive keyword then that can do.

I suggest you consider this wso by matt.

Page One Ranking

I have this website I'm trying to rank to page 1 for two months and it just stays on the page 3 after spending more than $200 on it. Well, after I try that wso I stated above, surprisingly after 10 days it was now on rank 14. Seriously, I'm amazed lol.

Anyway, it is still your choice.

[TopGun38]

With that budget, you have more than enough for SEO for your site. I'm not going to recommend anything or advice you what to do, but there's a service that can get you that page 1 ranking. However, it's offered at a special pricing for another IM group. Well, I'm going to PM you the info and see if that's what you want to try.

*Edit - Just found out I can't PM yet. You can PM me if you're interested.

Originally Posted by tryinghard

Hi,

I have a budget of $2k for a website for the SEO. I would like to know what methods I can use so that my website will rank 1st page of google.

This keyword is on the level of "hard keywords" but not "very hard". I just want my budget to be spent on methods that is worth it and would generate results.

I have already look around the for hire section will be using some of the interesting service there. I would just like some more ideas because maybe I missed some service or I am just not aware of the impact of a certain service. Also, maybe there are more way/methods out there for SEO that is not listed in the for hire section in WF.

Thanks for the help fellow warriors!

[Matt Ward]

With due respect to MikeFriedman and Mike Anthony - I understand and somewhat agree with what you guys are saying.

However, I would argue that perhaps it would be of significant benefit to have a general understanding of SEO before investing a large amount of money in it; you would be much more capable of discerning between an SEO service that is a waste of money and one which is well worth paying big $$$$ for. As an example, you can look at many of the SEO provider threads on the Warrior Forum: you will see many people praising services that probably were not nearly as effectual as they thought they were.

Of course, there are big names that don't even touch SEO, like mentioned here. Perfectly valid point there.

However, I think you could get bled dry pretty quickly approaching it this way, with the "I have lots of money; what can I throw it at for SEO?" - it's a pretty good way to draw predators. I'm sure the OP has had more than a few private messages by now.

If you're smart and do it properly, then yeah, having good money to invest in SEO right off the bat could definitely give you a huge advantage. I don't think it's necessarily something that everyone could do properly, though.

[kakaboo]

Dont buy anything, seriously if you are just starting out.. can see that a lot of guys are just trying to pimp their services.

If you are just starting out, do everything manually , and see what works for yourself. It might take a longer time, but it is definitely worth it in the long run as you would be able to determine whether someone is overcharging you in the future.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by Matt Ward

With due respect to MikeFriedman and Mike Anthony - I understand and somewhat agree with what you guys are saying.

However, I would argue that perhaps it would be of significant benefit to have a general understanding of SEO before investing a large amount of money in it; you would be much more capable of discerning between an SEO service that is a waste of money and one which is well worth paying big $$$$ for. As an example, you can look at many of the SEO provider threads on the Warrior Forum: you will see many people praising services that probably were not nearly as effectual as they thought they were.

Of course, there are big names that don't even touch SEO, like mentioned here. Perfectly valid point there.

However, I think you could get bled dry pretty quickly approaching it this way, with the "I have lots of money; what can I throw it at for SEO?" - it's a pretty good way to draw predators. I'm sure the OP has had more than a few private messages by now.

If you're smart and do it properly, then yeah, having good money to invest in SEO right off the bat could definitely give you a huge advantage. I don't think it's necessarily something that everyone could do properly, though.

Matt,

Yes you are right. If I had talked to him before he made this thread, the first thing I would have done was to advise him not to disclose his budget. That is probably bringing out all sorts of people.

And you are also correct that he could end up throwing away the money uselessly if he is not careful. However, that is the same with just about anyone you hire for anything. He needs to be careful, evaluate his needs, and find someone that fills those needs.

He probably should have a basic understanding of how SEO works, but he doesn't need to grasp it all. If this is a typical IM niche, he probably would not need to spend anywhere near all of his budget to get a decent SEO to do this for him. For those saying he should do it all himself, if he can get the project done for $1000, is that not worth the time? It could take him a year to learn what he needs on his own and to implement it. I would gladly pay a lot more than that for something that saved me a year's worth of time. My time is a lot more valuable than that.

And that's another thing, he needs to look for an SEO, not a backlinker. Which means he needs to stay away from 99.99% of the services or WSO's offered here.

In all honesty, if it is someone new to the business, I would probably tell them to find a local online marketing firm and have a meeting with them face-to-face. They can sit down and explain what he needs, what it will cost, and what the expected benefit will be.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by robrave

Wow that's a large budget but considering if you are after a very competitive keyword then that can do.

I suggest you consider this wso by matt.

Page One Ranking

I have this website I'm trying to rank to page 1 for two months and it just stays on the page 3 after spending more than $200 on it. Well, after I try that wso I stated above, surprisingly after 10 days it was now on rank 14. Seriously, I'm amazed lol.

Anyway, it is still your choice.

No. I'm sure he wants a top 3 ranking, not merely a page one ranking.

[mattlaclear]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

No. I'm sure he wants a top 3 ranking, not merely a page one ranking.

And what exactly do you know about our service where you feel entitled to make a base assumption against it like you just did? We regularly pull in top 3 rankings.

[kochtgr]

As someone else said above, I would hire a few writers to write quality and informative articles about my niche and then contact high traffic and PR blogs on my niche to publish these articles as guest posts, this will not only be a huge boost from a search engines ranking perspective but it will drive thousands targeted visitors who will want to know more about your site. I am sure that this is the most effective way to rank on page one of google and get tons of targeted traffic

[rabbi45]

Hi, you can hire one of my workers for full time 8 hrs a day, 5 times a week

we have seo softwares and blog networks

[tryinghard]

Originally Posted by rabbi45

Hi, you can hire one of my workers for full time 8 hrs a day, 5 times a week

we have seo softwares and blog networks

What kind of SEO softwares and blog networks?

What is the price for a worker and can they create quality unique articles?

[larkykid]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

And that's another thing, he needs to look for an SEO, not a backlinker. Which means he needs to stay away from 99.99% of the services or WSO's offered here.

Mike, could you expand on this please, what would be the benefit? Looking at other SEO firms outwith the WF and other well known online IM forums, the link building doesn't appear any different, the same old profile link building, blasting to directories etc. If the only difference would be the addition of examining the on page SEO, I don't think that's worth the extra hundreds or even thousands of dollars.

[Clyde]

Just do LinxBoss + BMR, outsource the writer for BMR, and spend the rest on Squidoo pointing to your page.

Give it 1 month.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by mattlaclear

And what exactly do you know about our service where you feel entitled to make a base assumption against it like you just did? We regularly pull in top 3 rankings.

You may pull in top 3 rankings, but you don't work towards those. You get them to page one and stop. Maybe they're in the top 3. Maybe they are not.

For IM'ers on a limited budget, perhaps your service makes sense.

This individual has a little bit more money to spend than the average new IM'er. If they can afford it (which in this case they can), they should be looking for a more comprehensive SEO and traffic generation solution. They can look for an SEO adviser and project manager. They do not need to shop at WalMart (your word, not mine).

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by larkykid

Mike, could you expand on this please, what would be the benefit? Looking at other SEO firms outwith the WF and other well known online IM forums, the link building doesn't appear any different, the same old profile link building, blasting to directories etc. If the only difference would be the addition of examining the on page SEO, I don't think that's worth the extra hundreds or even thousands of dollars.

People offering just profile link building, blasting to directories, etc. are link building service providers. There's nothing wrong with that. But that's what it is.

Someone working in the capacity as an SEO is going to do more than that. Yes, they will do a lot of on-page SEO, but in addition most will do things like:

• Analyze a competitor's backlinks for things like backlinking opportunities, the percentage of keyword anchor text used, and the type of backlinks that are most likely responsible for their ranking.
• Advise on acquiring aged domains that can be used for the current campaign.
• Seek out and acquire relevant link partners.
• Research additional keywords that may present opportunities.
• Optimize other properties in addition to main website (Facebook, YouTube Channel, a blog, etc)
• Claim and optimize a Google Places listing if appropriate.
• Seek out niche specific directories to be a part of.
• Seek out niche specific forums that may be worth participating in (not spamming).
• For a local business, make sure the company is listed in all local directories like Yahoo! Business, Yelp!, YellowPages.com, MerchantCircle, etc.
• Provide constant reporting on work done and progress.

There's a lot more that goes into it, but it is more than just throwing a few articles at a couple of article directories and building some spammy forum profile links.

[larkykid]

Basically, it will boil down to how much research and preparation has already been done on any given campaign. Going in raw, would necessitate a comprehensive SEO package, however if someone has done the preliminary SEO steps on their sites, then a good link building provider/s may all you need to gain the desired serp rankings.

[mattlaclear]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

You may pull in top 3 rankings, but you don't work towards those. You get them to page one and stop. Maybe they're in the top 3. Maybe they are not.

For IM'ers on a limited budget, perhaps your service makes sense.

This individual has a little bit more money to spend than the average new IM'er. If they can afford it (which in this case they can), they should be looking for a more comprehensive SEO and traffic generation solution. They can look for an SEO adviser and project manager. They do not need to shop at WalMart (your word, not mine).

A more comprehensive package according to whom? You? I'm tired of seeing your name associating stink on our services. You do it quite often. Does it give you a thrill to do it? I looked everywhere on the forum where at least one person recommended you as an seo adviser. Guess how many I found.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by mattlaclear

A more comprehensive package according to whom? You? I'm tired of seeing your name associating stink on our services. You do it quite often. Does it give you a thrill to do it? I looked everywhere on the forum where at least one person recommended you as an seo adviser. Guess how many I found.

Nor would I expect you to see any here. This is not my target market.

Matt, your service is fine for someone not wanting to spend a lot, or for someone that has a limited number of keywords in their campaign. For $99, it is not a bad service for most campaigns. It is cheap backlinking.

For someone that has more money to spend though and is not just targeting 5 keywords, why wouldn't they hire someone who is going to help them rank ALL of their keywords instead of just 1 out of 5? Why wouldn't they hire someone who is going to work towards driving ALL of their keywords into the top 3 in the search engines? Why wouldn't they hire someone who is going to drive their keywords to the top in Yahoo and Bing as well as Google?

They aren't going to find all of that for $99, nor should they.

[larkykid]

Originally Posted by Clyde

Just do LinxBoss + BMR, outsource the writer for BMR, and spend the rest on Squidoo pointing to your page.

Give it 1 month.

Not seen too many people talk about LinxBoss much, any good? Are there other warriors who've had experience with it, good or bad? The set and forget type systems like this do appeal.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by mattlaclear

A more comprehensive package according to whom? You? I'm tired of seeing your name associating stink on our services.

and we are tired of you trying to hijack every thread to make it about your service without adding anything substantive to what the threads you are in are actually about. Bottom line is someone brought up your service which is fine and someone brought up the FACT that it in only states first page placement not ranking at the top which is not only fine but much more pertinent. Live with the details of your own offer.

IF the OP has $2,000 he would be an idiot to use it for first page placement services so the only way that you or your service should come into this discussion as a VIABLE alternative for the OP is if you guarantee number one or two placements. DO you in your service copy? NO

So its time to be quiet and stop trying to use the excuse of one person suggesting your services as an excuse to derail yet another thread.

[tonymorrison3968]

You could hire me and i will get you on google page one for 3 phrases guaranteed.i will help you to pick 3 phrases with the traffic you need and the competion i can overwelm.i use senuke and sick submitter to get the job done.you can contact me here with a pm the cost for my service is $379 and that includes 3000+ backlinks i will post for you.

[the lord]

what products you sell. budget that you spend must seseuai with ROI of product you make.

If your budget is used to flip a website sunggu huge capital so that you will get a huge ROI from the capital, if interested in cooperation within the fold is a website you can send me a PM.

[pinkflamingo3]

Originally Posted by vtotheyouknow

Hey brother, look what you started!

Here's my honest opinion and recommendation: outsource a lot of high quality content and then pay somebody to syndicate that content to high-quality, RELEVANT websites.

This is a value-adding, future-proof strategy that improves your SEO significantly, especially after Panda.

Good luck!
Vic

hey vic -

i'm 100% on board with this approach as well, my only problem being WHERE do i find someone to OUTSOURCE this kind of work to? i'd be much obliged if you had some recommendations here as all i can ever find is "senuke mass spam" link builders.

thanks so much!

[ShanghaiSEOExpert]

I would also be interested in an answer to the above?