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Old 09-24-2011, 03:25 AM   #1
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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone here outsources back linking and if they do could you recommend any companies which do a good job?

If you do not, why not? Some people think this might be dangerous, but if they are a good company, could they not simply follow rules set by the client (i.e. only get links from certain niche sites, using certain keywords with certain PR etc.)? Any known companies which work this way?

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Outsourcing is the best thing to do this generation. It will leverage everything.
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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone here outsources back linking and if they do could you recommend any companies which do a good job?

If you do not, why not? Some people think this might be dangerous, but if they are a good company, could they not simply follow rules set by the client (i.e. only get links from certain niche sites, using certain keywords with certain PR etc.)? Any known companies which work this way?

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Build Tier-1 backlinks. Then outsource Tier-2 and 3 backlinks. I dont like to build tier-1 backlinks by using software as google hates it. Also I dont trust link builders too. There is no guarantee that they will not use software. If you need guarantee then hire them hourly basis using oDesk. Also dont forget to analyze some screenshot regularly to check what are they doing. Whether they are building backlinks manually or not.

But tier 2 and 3 backlinks will not harm your moneypage. So that you can use software for creating 2 and 3. And usually 2 and 3 backlinks are huge so that tough to create without using any software. So I will recommend you to use software. But if you dont have the software then you can hire some expert link builders for creating 2 and 3 backlinks. They will use software to create thousands of backlinks within few days probably few hours. In this way you will be able to save your time, money and at the same time your website will enjoy good progress in SERP without any side effect.

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Outsourcing it's a great multiplier tool if you used it correctly, for example you should be clear about what you are asking, give specific orders and restrictions and make it clear that you will pay only if everything is done as you told them. You can find many individuals and companies if you search on freelance sites like elance, freelancer, guru, odesk etc that could do all the work for you!

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I am going to go against the grain here and suggest that you not purchase any backlinks unless they are targeted nofollow links.

I believe in a total white hat strategy and buying links is against the webmaster guidelines. So if you have a website that you want to build long term stability towards I recommend that you don't take any short cuts like purchased backlinks!

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I am going to go against the grain here and suggest that you not purchase any backlinks unless they are targeted nofollow links.

I believe in a total white hat strategy and buying links is against the webmaster guidelines. So if you have a website that you want to build long term stability towards I recommend that you don't take any short cuts like purchased backlinks!

JUST MY opinoin.

I agree with you buying back links could even hurt your site in the long run but outsourcing doesn't mean that you will buy links, it means that you can pay someone else to do what you already doing yourself, like blog commenting, writing quality articles (especially if you are not a good writer or english is not your first language) producing videos (that you can use for video marketing), designing websites etc

You just have to think like a businessman and not like someone who believes that he/she is the best in everything and he/she could do everything by himself, even if someone is the best in everything (there is no such person in the world) he/she has limited time so he/she will have limited income!

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As a firm believer in manual linkbuilding (black hat SEO software sucks balls) outsourcing for those long tedious tasks is the way to go. I have to do all mine myself, but if I could find someone competent enough to do it, I would.
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Hi guys,

Thanks for all your comments. I guess one thing I wanted to clarify is that I do not want any Black Hat techniques. If I wanted that, then I would simply use one of the many available link spamming software tools around.

No, I am thinking along the lines of hiring people to deliver quality links by doing the research I would have done myself. I simply do not have the time to do that, and would rather dedicate my time on marketing.

kochtgr hit the nail on the head with his/her post. Yes, I am looking for people to find suitable sites to link from, and that is what this post is all about, but I also already outsource several article pieces and post these across the web - some on my own sites (exclusively), some on Squidoo (exclusively) , some to blogs (exclusively) and others I just submit to article directories.

The video comments have intrigued me and I will be looking into these. Do you guys also outsource them through Fiverr?

Once again thanks to everyone's input. This has been a most helpful post and you all contributed greatly.
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Some people on warriors for hire actually do good quality manual backlinks. These are basically the same backlinks that you or I would do if we were to do it ourselves.

I would advise you to stay away from any automated "blasts" from scrapebox or senukex because they don't really give your site any value. Instead look for high PR backlinks to give you maximum link juice.

To be honest, I did start link pyramids for a few of my sites but not all of the link juice gets passed right down to your money site and it looks just as artificial as just backlinking straight to your site. Pyramids are only if you want to point spammy links to your sitein your tier 2 or 3. If you just stick to high quality backlinks, you'll be fine.

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I was wondering if anyone here outsources back linking and if they do could you recommend any companies which do a good job?

If you do not, why not? Some people think this might be dangerous, but if they are a good company, could they not simply follow rules set by the client (i.e. only get links from certain niche sites, using certain keywords with certain PR etc.)? Any known companies which work this way?

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Of course, I would definitely say that you should outsource. Many outsourcing firm are now offering this kind of service. You just need to look for the right company. If you need more information, i'll be more than happy to give you more details.

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I think the guys at www dot submitedge dot com do a good job and for a very reasonable price.. But I agree with Rafiseo about managing my tier 1 back links myself.
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Take a look at the people that rank for some of the top keywords. 99% of them outsource their link building. I rarely build a manual link myself unless I absolutely have to.

I recommend either using a service or else building a team yourself to do it. Also don't get hung up with using only one service and thinking it is the be all end all. Make sure to diversify and get links for many C-Class IPs.

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Hi there,

Outsourcing your link building campaign is truly a hard decision to make. Its very normal for your to hesitate on this since there are a lot of scammers nowadays.

However, outsourcing saves you time and even money. I think all you need is to find a service who has a good reputation and has a number of positive reviews. By that you can be assured that your money will be worth it.

Link building is a tedious task so if you have a budget for it then you might want to outsource it.

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Of you can't handle the task then better to outsource but the risk is on how to find a good SEO Agency that worthy with your penny.

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The answer to the question should I outsource "anything" can be answered by asking yourself another question. Can an outsourcer do something better, faster, or cheaper than you could do it yourself (or is it something you just don't want to do). If the answer is yes then the answer to "should I outsource" is also yes.

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if you are going to outsource your SEO do not buy from an seo company. You will be wasting money. Most seo companies charge a couple hundred bucks for just one site. You will be better off buying each component of SEO separately from different providers. It will save you hundreds, if not thousands and you will get your results faster if you make a good plan. Find a service just for articles, a service for web2.0s and one for blog comments or whatever else you may need and buy them individually. With a tool like fiverr widely available there is no reason to go to a SEO Company.
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I am going to go against the grain here and suggest that you not purchase any backlinks unless they are targeted nofollow links.

I believe in a total white hat strategy and buying links is against the webmaster guidelines. So if you have a website that you want to build long term stability towards I recommend that you don't take any short cuts like purchased backlinks!

JUST MY opinoin.
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I agree with you on this one buddy I have seen a lot of people fail just because of spending money on backlink providers, services, software.

If you want full control, go the manual way.

Not to say automation can't help, you just won't have full control over everything.

I use only a very small portion of automation in my industry (niche marketing) and feel it's the best way to do :P

That's just my opinion though.



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Hi,

to outsource or not to outsource depends on your SEO strategy. People tend to outsource either

- routine tasks that take too much of their valuable time they'd rather spend on strategic things

- tasks they are not good at.

As an option to outsourcing backlinks, you can get a good backlink checker to keep an eye on your competitors' link building strategies. You'll see what backlinks have a positive impact on their rankings, and focus on getting similar ones.

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Outsource can really be great. It helps you cut back expenses especially when you get good quality freelancers and reasonably good rate. Just remember that you have to be specific on the kind of things you want them to do for your backlinks. For sure there are a lot out there who can give you great results.

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I would never outsource my backlinking task... As I am very finicky about the quality of my backlinks.

I have seen many services claiming to get backlinks from authority sources, but who guarantees relevancy. And, why would I pay for something which I can do myself without spending a penny...
I am always in the favor of getting quality backlinks and that too manually.

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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone here outsources back linking and if they do could you recommend any companies which do a good job?

If you do not, why not? Some people think this might be dangerous, but if they are a good company, could they not simply follow rules set by the client (i.e. only get links from certain niche sites, using certain keywords with certain PR etc.)? Any known companies which work this way?

Cheers

What you have to look at is the ROI on your time. If you can save time by either automating and/or outsourcing and the cost is less than the money you will make with that extra time then doing it is a very easy decision. When outsourcing you need to pay attention to the exact amount of time involved in the process so that you know exactly how you are benefiting. There will be some loss because of training (both yours and your employees) in the beginning but you need to make sure that the process does not take too long to become profitable.

Pick a task that seems very time consuming to you or something you really do not like doing and start there. In my case the first thing I started outsourcing was content. While I can write well enough it was sucking up a large portion of my time that I was better off spending elsewhere. That first task though will be different for everyone.

Make sure you create a very specific picture of what you want the person you hire to accomplish. Lay things out (in writing) very clearly before you even talk to anyone. Think of the questions somebody might ask and figure out the answers first. Only when you are sure that you can communicate your needs clearly should you start talking to people.

Once you have the task look around for people to hire and make a list. Start a few of them out on some smaller projects, see which one does the best. One thing to keep in mind is the cheapest worker is not always the best one to use. Someone may cost more per hour but be a lot more productive so always think of how much work is being done per dollar spent rather than a per hour figure.

Do not be afraid of culling someone that is not working out. Too many people waste time trying to fill a round hole with a square peg. If someone is not working out, pay them for their time and send them on their way. Not doing this soon enough and inadequate communication are the two biggest reasons people fail at outsourcing successfully.

Once you have found someone you think will work out gradually increase the amount of freedom they have and the importance of their work while always keeping a watch on what is going on.

After the process is fairly complete make sure you are now getting a better ROI on your time and then start thinking about the next task that you want to outsource.

Rinse and Repeat........
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I would never outsource my backlinking task... As I am very finicky about the quality of my backlinks.

....... And, why would I pay for something which I can do myself without spending a penny........


I am always in the favor of getting quality backlinks and that too manually.
It all depends on how much of a return you can get on your time. Suppose you can do your backlinking for free and to pay someone to do it would cost you $50. The way you are looking at it is you are out that $50.

However there is another way to look at it. There is an opportunity cost to the time you are personally spending on doing your own backlinking. Suppose in that free time that you now have (that cost you $50) you can do other money making activities that increase your income by $100. In this scenario paying that $50 makes a lot of sense.

Time is money and time spent unwisely is money lost.

The time you spending doing something always means there is less time for doing something else. You have a finite number of hours each day. All that time you spend building your own backlinks means you are missing out on other (probably) more profitable activities so yes you are "spending a penny" by doing it all yourself.
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I always check references on anyone I hire to do backlinks or any other outsourcing

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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone here outsources back linking and if they do could you recommend any companies which do a good job?

If you do not, why not? Some people think this might be dangerous, but if they are a good company, could they not simply follow rules set by the client (i.e. only get links from certain niche sites, using certain keywords with certain PR etc.)? Any known companies which work this way?

Cheers
I have to recommend Luminous LTD, the company which I work for, have been in the business for a long time specializing in back-linking:

Directory Submission: both manual and auto, home-page as well as sub-page linking.
Article Writing: (high quality content) and posting

The directories we use are SEO friendly ('dofollow', no redirects, no java).

Blog commenting: We have curing the last 2 years compiled a list with SEO friendy blogs and forums.

The first 2 strategies are quite straight forward, but for blog commenting, we listen to the client's demands. We always write quality comments, pick related pages to each client and don't use over-spammed pages.

Our clients are mostly western SEO/webdesign companies which decided to outsource the link-building since our prices are lower, being based in Thailand, but also many clients with own websites.

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Outsourcing is especially worth the money if your going for article posting and blog commenting.

Outsourcing of article writing and posting.
PROS.
If posting articles in a already existing strong profile account, your article will get indexed faster.
You will not have to set up accounts for each article directory
The directories where your article will be posted are tested and will give good ROI.

Outsourcing of blog posting:
PROS.
For a person with just 1 or 10 blogs, trying to find RELATED do-follow blogs, will take to much time, a specialized SEO company will have a list (Our list have been compiled over the last 2 years).
We are doing researches daily to find good blogs, have a list with 300-600+ tested domains, 60.000+ pages collected.

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