OFF Page SEO advice

[markw89]

So I went for this low - moderate competition keyword, reserved a domain of keyword +s for it..

I bought a package of high pr blog posts and it got my website to first position on page number 3. And then I purchased a package of high pr blog comments.. but what is really bothering me is:

I have time to do OFF page SEO but I just dont know what to do or where to start.. I tried to do blog comments by myself instead of having my URL posted on these bblogs with spammy comments but I really couldn't find dofollow blogs, all of them are no follow.

My plan is to purchase home page back link for my website, but apart from that, I am also willing to put time to do natural SEO to my website so as not to get deindexed. I do have quality content.

[umrbd]

Whoa! who are you? a spammer! well u are talking like a spammer. Dude paid seo will kill your website wake up

[markw89]

No I am not a spammer and I understand in order to maintain your site you will have to do natural SEO along with paid SEO.

[umrbd]

paid seo will not hurt in case of directory submission but it will surely hurt if you are buying high PR link packages I have witnesses even swapping the links can hurt. Google is becoming strict guys

[eurekapsycrille]

If you're sticking to blog commenting, you would definitely find a hard time in getting your site ranked even if you buy bunches of link packages.

You can do other methods in getting links. If you don't know how to do it, you can learn it in the internet. Don't worry, you will not find it hard to learn other link building methods.

You can still use paid links, but make sure that you spend some time to build links for your site manually.

[markw89]

This is exactly what I meant, I do want to put effort on it, as for blog commenting (I know its one part of OFF site SEO) Does it have to be dofollow blogs? I have been searching and looking for hundreds of websites but I have found none.

Also please suggest me a book or anything you recommend for off site SEO..

[fredrikrob]

I am not agree that paid SEO kill.. But it depends that how you are doing or which method you are using for your SEO work. Its really hard to found do follow blogs. But you need to get back links from many resources. But instead of only blogs back link there are other resource link article submission, Rss feed, Directory submission etc. And Social Networking and social media optimization is the best part you can do yourself.

[wakee456]

I read all the discussion above .
My answer is very simple just do seo work manually .
Social Bookmaking
Directory Submission
Blog commenting
etc etc

[lalitbansal004]

Do Quaility Off page for your website Like :-

web 2.0 (Very Powerful)

Article Submission(Article base, Ezinearticles , Goarticles, Ideamarketers)

Then Do Social Bookmarking For these Links.

Super Blaster for Your Website.

Thanks.

[r8a1l4]

are these effective? i mean using paid links or software will probably banned you from google?

[jonnyhardbaked]

Originally Posted by fredrikrob

I am not agree that paid SEO kill.. But it depends that how you are doing or which method you are using for your SEO work. Its really hard to found do follow blogs. But you need to get back links from many resources. But instead of only blogs back link there are other resource link article submission, Rss feed, Directory submission etc. And Social Networking and social media optimization is the best part you can do yourself.

It is not mandatory for us to get dofollow links "only". There are some people who said that dofollow doesn't really exist. When you search the internet, you will not find any strong and firm information about the so-called "dofollow".

There are some who just used the term "dofollow" to substitute it to the absence of nofollow links which really exist. So, don't make it hard for yourself in finding a "dofollow" blogs. Just find a blog that is related to your niche and leave comments there.

But let me remind you of this: blog commenting takes hell of a time and effort because it will always depend on the moderators if they want to approve or comments or not.

[Jenny4u1]

Instead of purchasing try to do SEO on your own. You must get good results.

[Cordell]

Its good to have all sorts of do follow or no follow links. Google looks for quality in your back links but they also looks at variety of those quality back links, from edu to url to .com's.

[futuremills]

LOL at paid seo killing your site. You may not need paid seo to rank "buy discounted peanut shell holder" but if you want to start ranking for big kws in money niches you will have to pay for seo in some way. How else do you think million dollar a year affiliates or corporations rank for high volume kws

[markw89]

Thank you guys for responses, really helpful

[UMS]

Originally Posted by umrbd

Whoa! who are you? a spammer! well u are talking like a spammer. Dude paid seo will kill your website wake up

Oh, so all the paid SEO work I had done on my sites to get to #1 are killing it?

Must go and kill some more sites.

[markw89]

I am disappointed to sound really stupid about it, I am trying to find an ebook or whatever that explains what you guys said but I couldnt find any. For example I tried to start with article submission and I have like 5 articles..

I want to do it manually, so is it going to be like posting each article, to each directory?
and do I use the same title and content of my original article on my website?
its confusing..

[LawrenceTam]

it's always great to come in here and see people advocating "do it yourself!!!! paid seo will kill your stuff".

AWESOME... makes it easier and easier for my sites to rank faster above yours.

[VinnyBock]

Originally Posted by umrbd

Whoa! who are you? a spammer! well u are talking like a spammer. Dude paid seo will kill your website wake up

LOL where are you buying "paid SEO that kills your site"?

So all the SEO Services Listed On WF With Great Reviews Is What...

All A Big Conspiracy...

[VinnyBock]

Originally Posted by markw89

This is exactly what I meant, I do want to put effort on it, as for blog commenting (I know its one part of OFF site SEO) Does it have to be dofollow blogs? I have been searching and looking for hundreds of websites but I have found none.

Also please suggest me a book or anything you recommend for off site SEO..

Now days when it comes to SEO you have to think a little outside the box while not straying to far from what works. 10's of 1000's of blog comments on sites that have a high PR (only for their domain) won't help much.

You need a strategic plan, Example ---> you need social bookmarks pointing to articles which point to blogs which point to your money site...

Just an example, not an exact science...

[Roberto L]

Yes it's not suggested to have too much paid links, but if you are confident enough for your content and the staying time for your customers, you can buy some advertisment.

Google has become more and more strict exactly as I removed some paid but useless links from other website and the ranks for the keyword did not change, and I don't think the paid methods for SEO are so effective as they were in the future, manual is the best way and the eternal way.

Sometimes, a unique content with very high quality ranks on the first page even without any SEO works, so fill your site with them as much as possible!

[kkchoon]

Personally, I love automation. I build most of my backlinks on automation. It doesn't matter if you build backlinks manually or using automated tools or outsource it, they work!

If you want to start learning about backlink building, try to research on Angela backlinks or profile backlinks, that's a start..

[markw89]

Ok this is my progress so far:
- Achieved to get multiple high pr dofollow blog comments, did the comments manually and they were approved.. I find this easy and fun to do.

- I asked my team to write another article on the same subject I am targeting and I submitted this to ezinearticles with 2 links pointing to my website using my anchor text. As soon as it gets approved I will submit the same article on another 4 of top article directory website.. unsure if I will spin or not.. i'm planning to use the same anchor text there.

- I am figuring out what people meant by Web2 properties SEO, but somethings I don't understand:
+ Accounts of web 2 properties should be registered under diff IPs and random users information?
+ Content on these properties should be unique or I can use the article used on my website or the other submitted to directories?
+ Do I include 2 links on each web2 property?
like one pointing to my site and another pointing to the other web2 property? i think this will be a link wheel and I read people saying if google finds out about linkwheels they will penalize my website.
+ Do you guys build links for your web2 properties? like blog comments for my blogpost page or whatever?

[mikeavery10]

A very useful post. I got many tips about off page SEO. Thanks everybody.

[yukon]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Personally, I love automation. I build most of my backlinks on automation. It doesn't matter if you build backlinks manually or using automated tools or outsource it, they work!

If you want to start learning about backlink building, try to research on Angela backlinks or profile backlinks, that's a start..

I might have said the same, back in 2007.

[Do]

Set up your own network, dominate google, that's it. Spamming won't last long

[jimn10]

Mark,

Here are the two eBooks I would recommend. The first is by Jerry West and can be found here: Google Best Practices Guide the cost is $47 and could be the best investment you ever make in SEO.

Jerry maintains over 700 websites which he uses as a testbed for SEO. His eBook contains all that he has learned and his testing continues so he publishes an updated version of his eBook whenever there is something worth mentioning. The good news is that once you purchase his eBook the updates are free.

The second eBook I would recommend is by Dan Thies and it is called SEO Fast Start, very comprehensive and it is free!

I would highly recommend that you get and read both. These two eBooks should become your reference on SEO, you can safely ignore pretty much everything else.

The authors have been doing SEO since the beginning. What you will learn in both eBooks is fact and not speculation.

Good Luck,

[markw89]

Originally Posted by jimn10

Mark,

Here are the two eBooks I would recommend. The first is by Jerry West and can be found here: Google Best Practices Guide the cost is $47 and could be the best investment you ever make in SEO.

Jerry maintains over 700 websites which he uses as a testbed for SEO. His eBook contains all that he has learned and his testing continues so he publishes an updated version of his eBook whenever there is something worth mentioning. The good news is that once you purchase his eBook the updates are free.

The second eBook I would recommend is by Dan Thies and it is called SEO Fast Start, very comprehensive and it is free!

I would highly recommend that you get and read both. These two eBooks should become your reference on SEO, you can safely ignore pretty much everything else.

The authors have been doing SEO since the beginning. What you will learn in both eBooks is fact and not speculation.

Good Luck,

Great, thank you! I needed someone to recommend me to read books, I just dont find it nice to go around forums and ask stupid questions. thanks again

[jimn10]

Mark,

OOPS! I forgot to give you the link for the SEO Faststart eBook by Dan Thies.
http://www.seofaststart.com

[markw89]

Thanks, I already found it and downloaded the content of the first 5 weeks

[jimn10]

Originally Posted by markw89

Thanks, I already found it and downloaded the content of the first 5 weeks

Mark,

There is also a form on the right side of the page that will allow you to download the Seo FastStart eBook.

I think that you downloaded the Plan B Mastermind course which was started over a year ago and the data up through 5 weeks is really great but for some reason he never finished the course but I believe that he is committed to keeping the eBook updated.