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All I have to say is, things that people will do to sell an ebook never cease to amuse me. We know you're the "expert" now. The only backlinks worthy of doing is the one you promote, amirite? I see you ridicule mattlaclear all the time, it amuses me because you guys are two of the same. |
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. I don't sell an ebook and the direct offer that this thread talks about isn't even mine. You pimpin out that signature AND avatar just fine though right? (lol)
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Step 1: Make a thread ranting about spammy backlinks. Step 2: Offer a solution. Step 3: Solution "happens" to be in signature. and if people argue with you just challenge them to an SEO "battle" because they can never win because it will never happen, because most people have better things to do than SEO to win a petty $100. Did I get it right? I'm a closet spammer? Still can't beat your authority links right? and you'll teach me how to build them for $xxx but I'll need to PM you first because that thing is "invite-only". I'm out. | |
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SO your only claim to fame is that I have a sig but guess what? - so do you (and considerably more tricked out for attention than mine - though I should get one too )so perhaps we know why you are attaching yourself to this thread with nothing of substance to say that relates to the actual subject.
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Sure I am also doing some marketing research but what did I link to? My own solution or someone elses? BZZZZ . Someone else's. You have no point. See me have any opt in form to collect email addresses for any future services (like cough cough someone else.... )? Your own sig is pimped out and ready to go although you could have chosen to turn it off.Nuff said Now do you have anything to say on this subject or just want to derail it some more and get your sig out there in a popular thread? |
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As they say "those that can't...."
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| .....do SEO try to promote insurance through an IM Forum"? . Anyway getting back on point that s exactly the issue. You have people wasting time running around building up post count on forums so they can drop links, doing blasts, paying $149 a month to senuke, paying for thousands of article directory blasts and if they just applied themselves they could build a real business with real rankings by concentrating on a little content creation like the offer referred to in this thread which is totally unrelated to me. Quote:
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![]() Again (I love it! ) your conditional comments, everything anyone post always triggers silly conditions to your seo theories. ![]() Quote:
I have an idea, since that's all that's being bounced around here, how about you test your own theories & get back with us on how that worked out. Whatever happend to that last WF seo thread, when all you had to do was spam another site with backlinks to sink them in the SERPs, that theory never panned out either did it (didn't think so). ![]() Finish/Test one theory before starting another... I kinda understand what's going on here since your learning seo from Matt Cutts (here). You can disbelieve what I'm telling you all you need, but I'll tell you straight up Matt Cutts doesn't have your best interest in mind when he creates his silly videos. Those videos are not about seo, no matter how much you want them to be. Just a heads up. BTW, You won't smoke anything, we both know that. ![]() Take some time one day & do your own real seo testing, instead of taking shortcuts & getting others to do it for you. I would like to think were all here to help each other with seo, but a guy has to be willing help himself before asking others for help. | ||
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What's not OK is starting a thread ridiculing something to pimp out your upcoming service, you did it so fast we couldn't even blink. You dropped it in your second post in this thread. Whatever you say is only backed by your egoistic tone, and people have smarten up to see through your BS. I'm outta here. | |
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![]() Why in the world would someone build site content & give it away for free, that's nuts when they could just build their own backlink site, that won't get deleted. OP has no idea If those links will be around, the site could be flipped etc... Op, no doubt is pushing something he has an interest in, which is directly related to what OP sells on this forum. ![]() Then OP has the nerve to tell other members they shouldn't have a banner in his thread. Dude this isn't a WSO, & you didn't pay $$ for this thread. | |
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The rest of your post is just tired nonsense . I learn nothing from Matt Cutts without testing and you don't know anything about getting high quality links outside of spam blog comments or you wouldn't state that writing an article was tooo hard . What? you really think anyone here is stupid enough to believe your PR5 and PR6 all day that takes no work comment besides blasting blog comments? LOL. everyone can see through that malarkey but dance with it some more if you think you are fooling anyone..Quote:
Anyone noticed how silly the he's trying to sell his services argument is now? If I were just selling I'd agree with Yukon since building your own backlinks sites is all that is my sig. | ||
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I will point out any service I see fit to talk about and there is not a thing you can do about it. It was not my own service and I linked to none of my sites or services. My services will always line up with my beliefs and practices not the other way around no matter what you try to imply. The fact that I mentioned that if that were the case it would have an impact on what I planned to offer does not change any other fact in my OP. You will just have to deal with it. | |
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I dont see how this is possible as a beginner. Are you guys saying you dont do ANY article marketing? What that guy is offering is a simple solution to those without the funds to find or pay for blog networks with high PR's. Even if I had to pay someone write an article and post it on a PR1-4 site then build links to it it would still be worth it for $4. Now of course the links wont stick forever on the main page and benefit from the home page link juice but I've not seen any blog network offer that either. He's essentially offering what a blog network offers.....but FREE. I dont have to pay to have access to a blog network with a PR1-4. How is this a bad thing? | |
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Hello, How is it determined that a backlink from a guest post on a high PR blog would be more valuable than a comment backlink on a similar high PR blog. Is it due to the fact that the link on the post is an in content link. Also, there's likely to be less OBL as far as where the guest post is placed retaining more link juice, would that be another reason? |
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You clearly pointing toward your upcoming service and there is a discernable motive other than what was mentioned in the OP. But regardless of your motives I think this thread and guest posting in particular has not received enough focus on the forum... this can still be an awesome thread if we stick to the subject of guest posting and the value it contributes to ones backlink profile. We all know anyone can rank for a low-med. term with an emd and some elbow grease but when looking at more competitive terms their needs to be a diverse profile of quality links. Guest posting offers just that but please do not write-off high PR blog commenting as this --when done right-- can and does add tremendous value and juice. When I mentioned my seo strategy on the forum to rank for competitive terms I pointed out that I use guest posts but that will never be enough to rank for competitive terms neither will the use of high PR blog comments on its own. | |
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![]() Next to that, the value a link passes on to your site also depends on relevancy. For example, if your page is about babysitters and a page about cars is linking to that page... then the site may be PR 8 but the link is just as valuable as a link from a page on a lower PR site that IS about babysitting. And then there's the link text itself: exact match text links tend to outdo broad match text links... Do you want me to keep going here? The point is: yes, blog comments, directory listings, social media profiles, and all that spammy stuff DOES suck... but only focusing on how high a website's PR is when you're looking for links sucks just as much. There are other factors involved. | |
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I pointed to an entirely unrelated service to me. Why would I be pointing people to something else if my launch was around the corner? Would I be the first to get peoples idea about their interests in a thread so as to determine viability of other things? Nope. Programmers do it all the time and people actually put threads out for beta testers in THIS VERY Forum. NO I saw this guys offer and it intrigued me the lack of interest. The wrinkle? I said there were SIMILARITIES but I can tell you now there would be huge differences too that I Know would not go over well here at all. so despite what anyone wished to think or swear they know for a fact this has been about basic concepts and not any service I am offering beyond me askign here and there some questions that yes do have some research factors. and despite all the distortions my sig has nothing to do with any such service. Thats just made up garbage. Building a network is an ENTIRELY different matter. Meanwhile had I posted some study about blog comments and me ranking using them there would not have been half the outcry here if I even had a link to my blog offering Scrapebox. Why? because that follows the boards great love of link spam SEO so everyone would be fine with it. | |
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B) Thank you for the strawman argument. No one stated it was only PR. which is. why in context links are better than blog rolls - relevant and editorial in nature guest posts are better. Thts been stated before in this very thread. There are quite likely other authority factors but given that we know of only one value (because Google sporadically releases it) Pr is the only thing in regard to authority I mentioned. Has nothing to do with thinking that is all there is as you allege. But thanks you for the lesson that every one knew and assumed everyone else did. | |
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Mike, I'll refrain from making assumptions but you and I know that marketing is a process! Bottomline... guest posting on authority blogs is powerful and every respectable SEO firm includes guest posting in their strategy and as such it should be used as one piece of the ranking puzzle. |
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Furthermore, your post topic and you yourself insinuated that a site with high PR equals a site you want a link of. But as I've stated before, determining which sites you want a link from is done with a whole range of factors: site theme, page theme, exact/broad match text link, linkprofile of the site, domain authority, domain age, etc. I'm not saying you don't know that buddy, I'm saying that claiming it's good to have links from high PR sites could be misleading. You need to be more specific, because high PR sites can be spammers too. Just look at JC Penney being banned from Google, BMW, etc. lol! | |
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You know what the problem is Mike? That most people think that quantity > quality of the backlinks. Why would I want your awesome PR5 homepage backlink in relevant content when I could have 250,000 awesome Xrumer and Scrapebox spam links! ::sarcasm:: The other issue? Patience. We live in an instant gratification society, and what's with Google not giving my website instant rankings! </end sarcasm> Seriously though, a lot of disinformation goes around as fact on a variety of forums and popular blogs and that's the biggest problem. |
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I'm really only posting to say : "This thread, what a mess." But I'll try to add something valuable to the discussion so my post sticks. Give any backlink spam supporter the choice between 1000 High PR, in content, homepage backlinks on pages directly related to their niche OR 2000 generally spammy links and see how quickly they turn coats. Its obvious to see where the value in link building is. Anyone stating otherwise is just living in denial. |
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![]() I am actually loving this thread though because I can see even new people reading through the nonsense and realizing what is being said makes absolutely no sense whatsoever even though it is being said by people who have been passing off knowing SEO for some time. Your other point is on the money as well but it also relates to the IM mentality that says hey "you too can make a gazillion dollars by sitting on the couch and eating popcorn". Thats why you have silly commentary like a $5 article to get a good backlink is a waste because the site might disappear all the while pretending like just about any backlink anyone uses cant disappear. Chicken little silliness as an excuse to not providing any quality content to get links from the rest of the internet that at some point ( because its the INTER net ) everyone ends up relying on. | |
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Referred targeted traffic can be worth more than just the backlink. Capture that traffic onto a mailing list or RSS feed and turn them into a return visitor. If the sites in the offer being discussed are getting decent front page traffic then I think it is worth trying to swing some traffic your way. The link is a bonus. The same with EZA: use it to network with people who like your content and pick and choose the people who will send you the bursts of traffic on top of the backlink. | |
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Yet here he is in this thread deriding the idea of people legitimately contributing to other sites rather than fraudulently. Its like a children's circus in here sometimes. | |
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I got better things to do, it just sucks that the gullible will fall victim to your pitch without realizing it. When are you launching your service that's so awesome and has no flaws o' SEO-lord? Here's your logic: High PR incontextual backlinks are awesome because I'm about to launch a service that provides exactly that. Don't even get me started with you High PR homepage backlinks Terry Kyle wannabe's. | |
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. Although since it would involve quality over quantity it would not be for you I will make sure to let You , yukon and the rest of the gang know. No one has focused more in this thread on what I am doing or about to do more than you guys. You could be key in a fine publicity campaign. How many times now have you referred to my sig or service now? If only it were available. the check would be in the mail .Quote:
Terry's a good guy but even he wouldn't claim he invented SEO networks or homepage backlinks. Try a wider education in SEO. None of those started in WSOs or at any forum ...... and um easy on the wannabe accusations when openly trying to be a market samurai wannabe. Kind a looks hypocritical (again) especially since you admit that you owned and used their software and had the idea to allegedly improve on it. I never owned ANY of Terry's stuff or services and as far as I know (from websites and ads) he doesn't cover all that I do. | ||
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you are right but in many cases Free websites delete links.
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Just stating the obvious, you starting this thread to pre-sell your upcoming service. If you want to promote something, pay for it. You see that banner up there? Goes for $100/day. and that high PR homepage backlinks comment wasn't meant for you btw, I know you don't do blogroll links. | |
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I'm bored Clyde. I referred to another third party service entirely and will again if I feel like it. Theres nothing you can do about it. The fact that I subsequently mentioned that I was looking at that service wondering if it told me anything about one I was considering doing changes nothing. I am selling nothing of that nature here and may never. Fact none of you can change is that its directly about another offer and linked to another offer that is not mine. All some of you derailing guys have including unfortunately Eleva (but to be fair he is not a derailer) is your biased prejudicial mind reading suspicion. I posted the question and this thread because I thought it said something about what people valued and would value here and wanted to see if my suspicions were right. Don't give a rip about what you and Eleva et al want to think was in my head. When you get the world's first valid psychic license call me. Won't be buying the WSOs on that though ![]() Here my man . proof positive - if you had any principle to stand on you would be arguing with this guy What would you like in an SEO kw research software? whose doing nothing but market research himself and nothing else (not even pointing to any other service) but you haven't. Thats not a presell right? LOL. You are in fact happily hypocritically participating in that thread with no complaints because OBVIOUSLY the issue you really have here is what the thread is about and how you think it indicts your spammy ways. Sorry man but your duplicity in that thread makes you as transparent as a clean thin piece of glass to anyone with half a brain. Join the long line . Its the same ole same ole. Any time anyone mentions anything about some white hat legitimate techniques the spammers get all excited and start making accusations. Its happened whether I have had a sig or not. Those be the facts.
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Mike, I am unable to PM; is it possible you could PM me with a way I can contact you?
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