LOL. Permanent ON page PR links and you wouldn't be interested??

[Mike Anthony]

Funny stuff. I saw a guy here on WF recently willing to give PR links (not forum profile, not senuke blast, not blog comment but a real honest to goodness in context link) just for well written articles.

So far he doesn't seem to have much takers. Then a question hit me

Is this board really so into spamming that they don't know the benefit of having real authority links like this one? I mean had the guy dropped in and siad $5 for 200 blog comments he would have had a rush of PMs.

So let me ask straight out. IF a service could give you Authority links that would NOT roll off the authority page (lets say pageranked page) are you telling me you couldn't be bothered if you had to write an article or pay someone $5 or less to have one written?

[ichl13]

Must have missed it because I would have definitely pounced on that sh... offer. Was it in the WSO?

[Mike Anthony]

Okay so there are some people who see the value?

I was wondering because I am about to launch a service that has some of those benefits.

No I saw it here not even a WSO

Guest Post Opportunities On Great Sites. Get Powerful Links FREE!

Maybe its just the section he posted it in.

[Justin Lewis]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Funny stuff. I saw a guy here on WF recently willing to give PR links (not forum profile, not senuke blast, not blog comment but a real honest to goodness in context link) just for well written articles.

So far he doesn't seem to have much takers. Then a question hit me

Is this board really so into spamming that they don't know the benefit of having real authority links like this one? I mean had the guy dropped in and siad $5 for 200 blog comments he would have had a rush of PMs.

So let me ask straight out. IF a service could give you Authority links that would NOT roll off the authority page (lets say pageranked page) are you telling me you couldn't be bothered if you had to write an article or pay someone $5 or less to have one written?

Most things I have seen in the internet marketing world deal with spamming the internet :P

I try and try to help people understand that spamming isn't the way to go, but that doesn't stop WSO's and other methods teaching people to use them.

I personally would do this, if the website would actually bring me traffic. If there was no way that traffic would come to my website, then I probably would skip it. Yes I understand ranking in the search engines = traffic, but I prefer to focus on backlink methods that actually build traffic from the place where the backlink is located.

Great post.

[UMS]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Maybe its just the section he posted it in.

Yep. Never visited that section of the WF before and it's certainly not an area that gets much traffic compared to the other areas.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

I personally would do this, if the website would actually bring me traffic. If there was no way that traffic would come to my website, then I probably would skip it. Yes I understand ranking in the search engines = traffic, but I prefer to focus on backlink methods that actually build traffic from the place where the backlink is located.

I just responded to that kind of thinking in the post where you proposed it and I think its terribly short sighted. Essentially you have bottled yourself into a false world where anything that does not immediately lead to traffic is not something that you think is worthy.

Truth is most of the traffic on the internet is earned in some way by doing something other than getting direct traffic. Top sites with mad traffic are not going to just give you traffic links. You will generally have to work some system, promotion or contacts that is NOT a direct traffic link. With Google still in the top three for traffic that involves getting links.

[yukon]

I see the value of in content links, but what makes that any different than EZA, besides EZA having tougher restrictions on getting approved?

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Funny stuff. I saw a guy here on WF recently willing to give PR links (not forum profile, not senuke blast, not blog comment but a real honest to goodness in context link) just for well written articles.

So far he doesn't seem to have much takers. Then a question hit me

Is this board really so into spamming that they don't know the benefit of having real authority links like this one? I mean had the guy dropped in and siad $5 for 200 blog comments he would have had a rush of PMs.

So let me ask straight out. IF a service could give you Authority links that would NOT roll off the authority page (lets say pageranked page) are you telling me you couldn't be bothered if you had to write an article or pay someone $5 or less to have one written?

[Mike Anthony]

EZA give you links with on page PR, low links on page and limited links on the whole domain? tell on Brother Yukon. Plus last time I checked EZa stuck your links at the end not in the article itself. Don't you know all this stuff? then how could you even ask such a newb question?

Originally Posted by yukon

I see the value of in content links, but what makes that any different than EZA, besides tougher restrictions on getting approved?

[yukon]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

EZA give you links with on page PR, low links on page and limited links on the whole domain? tell on Brother Yukon. Plus last time I checked EZa stuck your links at the end not in the article itself. Don't you know all this stuff? then how could you even ask such a newb question?

Lol, your entertaining.

You always have these special little conditions that never appear until you can't back something up.

Anyways...

Who cares the link is in the last sentence (don't be that guy)?

I could care less about EZA & I'm not promoting them, I'm all for build your own sites/links. Those EZA links (and your links) are for Google bots, they don't care If the link is at the top or bottom, as long as it exist on the page. You already should know this, it's simple seo.

Is the anchor-text backlink found by Google (that would be yes)?

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by yukon

Lol, your entertaining.

You always have these special little conditions that never appear until you can't back something up.

ROFL. Special little conditions? because you didn't read the OP? You funny man. Read the OP. Talks about an offer where the guy is giving on PAGe PR links. I listed four different things that are different and your only come back is some foolishness about links at the bottom of the page getting indexed. The rest you couldn't even touch and we all know why. Yo yukon - Social bookmarks and some forum profiles etc etc get indexed too. Too silly.


EZA does not give you a link with existing PR (for SEO homework look up pagerank)
EZA does not limit the amount of links on a page (For Further SEO homework look up OBL)

Sheesh go learn some SEO and learn to read. The links I am referring to are not my own as you claim but someone else.

In short again There is no comparison between the two unless you are a newb pretending to know SEO

[razorhound]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Okay so there are some people who see the value?

I was wondering because I am about to launch a service that has some of those benefits.

No I saw it here not even a WSO

Guest Post Opportunities On Great Sites. Get Powerful Links FREE!

Maybe its just the section he posted it in.

Yeah it's the section problem. Please send me a pm when your service is ready, thanks.

[MaverickUK]

I never ever read that forum, however your post has lead me to taking him up on his offer. I'll take a PR 4 (page) link any day for a few thousands words, hell yeah

Also since when did EZA off on-page PR from the moment you make a post?

[MaverickUK]

Oh... I read his post again. Maybe I won't be taking him up on his offer -_-

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

Oh... I read his post again. Maybe I won't be taking him up on his offer -_-

Too hard?

[Mike Anthony]

Also since when did EZA off on-page PR from the moment you make a post?

You mean you don't have to build backlinks to your EZA pages anymore? They are all PR4s?

[Fraggler]

Originally Posted by yukon

I see the value of in content links, but what makes that any different than EZA, besides EZA having tougher restrictions on getting approved?

• Domain Diversity
• Relevancy
• Page Authority
• Referred traffic + Brand Exposure

[MaverickUK]

I liked his offer until I read that the PR 1-4 isn't a guarantee. I can build backlinks to my own backlinks on my own

[Lyanna]

But guests posts are PR 0 or N/A? They go on the first page of the blog for a while then they drop out when new posts are made and the actual post itself will have no PR.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

I liked his offer until I read that the PR 1-4 isn't a guarantee. I can build backlinks to my own backlinks on my own

I am reading that differently

They are between PR 1-4 depending on the niche.

Originally Posted by Fraggler

• Domain Diversity
• Relevancy
• Page Authority
• Referred traffic + Brand Exposure

All kinds of differences between basically syndication to multiple authority sites and article directory submissions but as the OP Title suggested there are just some people completely clueless and even hostile to anything but their MFA backlinking strategies.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Lyanna

But guests posts are PR 0 or N/A? They go on the first page of the blog for a while then they drop out when new posts are made and the actual post itself will have no PR.

That may be the case here but I often wonder why people think that posts have to roll off page one to a page with no PR.

A) this is 2011 and wordpress blogs can have all kinds of layouts and pages
B) a post one hop away from say a PR3 is going to still have PR as long as there are not thousands of pages on the site.

Of course you have to realize the difference between toolbar PR and realtime PR. If you have say a PR 4 blog and you create navigation to another second page today the next time the site is crawled that page is going to have PR even though there may have been no toolbar update.

[Justin Lewis]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I just responded to that kind of thinking in the post where you proposed it and I think its terribly short sighted. Essentially you have bottled yourself into a false world where anything that does not immediately lead to traffic is not something that you think is worthy.

Truth is most of the traffic on the internet is earned in some way by doing something other than getting direct traffic. Top sites with mad traffic are not going to just give you traffic links. You will generally have to work some system, promotion or contacts that is NOT a direct traffic link. With Google still in the top three for traffic that involves getting links.

Again, I didn't say links are a bad thing I still think backlinking is important. I just think the majority of marketers are doing it incorrectly, hence why we hear so many people whining about not making money.

I'm not against backlinks, because building traffic can also mean building backlinks. I'm just saying that they should be a primary focus.

I'm not some guru, nor do I want to be, but I can say in my experience, focusing on traffic has done much more for me than anything else out there.

[yukon]

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

I liked his offer until I read that the PR 1-4 isn't a guarantee. I can build backlinks to my own backlinks on my own

Exactly!

Why would anyone write an article when they can get PR5-6 backlinks without an article, all day long?

You guys must like work, lol?

I have enough things to do besides pumping out articles.

Besides, you will not get a PR1-4 link, you'll get a PR0 at best, If your new article is the only article/link on the page. How are you going to give out PR1-4 backlink when the page doesn't even exist yet?

C'mon now use the Ole' noggin.

[Fraggler]

Because the link will be on the front page, for a while at least. He is paying people to write content for his site by paying with a backlink - from what it reads. Even an inner-page on a well designed site will have PR flowing to it...

It is a great opportunity for a decent link.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

hence why we hear so many people whining about not making money.

I'm not against backlinks, because building traffic can also mean building backlinks. I'm just saying that they should be a primary focus.

You are correct with the major factor being traffic but you are making parallels that don't necessarily line up. People don't make money usually for three reasons

A) they really have nothing to offer.
B) they don't want to work for success. they would rather buy a short cut training or a shortcut piece of software
C) their online presence stinks both in content and or presentation.

Backlinks to a quality site with a quality offer wipes out your objections since every month the traffic will grow and grow and grow with both incoming traffic from google and repeat traffic. You can pretend if you wish that you can just drop links on pages with instant consistent traffic to your site but we both know its false even if you deny its a pretense. Social based traffic is capable of doing it in fits and starts but the conversions are not all that fantastic and its hit or miss. Besides that you either buy the traffic or nickle and dime traffic with forum signatures and blog comments etc.

Not wanting to have backlinks that help you put your traffic link from google search results front and center is just silly. Google still in the top three for traffic no matter what you claim. It may tickle your ego to think you kow something that others don't but its just a tickle not a reality,

SEO with good backlinks to a great site with a great offer is a killer strategy.

[IM Ash]

I'm with Mike Anthony on this one. Backlinks from guest posts published on blogs with high PR and low posting frequency are phenomenal. The conventional blog nav. will ensure juice flows internally and in many instances my guest posts have increased in PR which translates to a permanent high PR contextual link.

I have even paid blog owners who publish one post per week to have my guest post published on their blogs and the money was certainly well spent because those posts now have PR.

I do believe PR is updated within a week or two on Google's end.

I personally would have had the mindset of others who believe guest posts are a waste of time but last year I was a full-time freelance writer and I had a client who paid me $50 to write and submit guest posts on his behalf i.e. $50/guest post approved. Now, I was completely bewildered why this client was paying me $50 to write simple articles and propose them to blogs until I went and looked at the keywords he was targeting in these posts... he had first page rankings for most of the keywords he was targeting and his sole SEO strategy was guest posting and blog commenting.... this is when I realized the power of guest posts and suffice to say it is now an integral part of my own SEO strategy.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by yukon

Exactly!

Why would anyone write an article when the can get PR5-6 backlinks without an article, all day long?

You guys must like work, lol?

You complain about spam but to me nonsens posts like that are far worse than the spammers. Get PR5 and 6 backlinks all day long without work? Yeah sure read here "blog comment spam" all day long. Pure and utter garbage evangelized by the lazy to fool the gullible. I'll smoke ANY serp you are in with your blog comments. In fact I'll up the ante. I'll pay A $100 to anyone that can show me where just your PR5 and PR 6 backlinks "that you can get all day long" ranks a site for a very competitive top serp (but I get to pick what is competitive since its my money and I won't allow any "50.000 competing pages" nonsense criteria). this kind of stuff junks up the boards fr more than spammers and some of us are tired of it. Put it to the test.

How are you going to give out PR1-4 backlink when the page doesn't even exist yet?

C'mon now use the Ole' noggin.

only wish you would because you are being absolutely clueless.

A) you can create articles on a page that already has PR, Its embarassing to have to tell someone who should know that blogs work far more like CMS when setup without various one side content the other side sidebar layout themes and that people have links and PR on pages that are CATEGORY and FEATURED related. Sheesh, Talk about using the noggin. This is elementary Wordpress 101 stuff.

B) A new page CAN have real PR. Also embarassing to have to tell someone who supposed to know SEO that PR is constantly updated on Google's end even when it is not updated in the tool bar. Even SEO newbs know that toolbar PR is only up todate on the day the PR is updated and real PR changes EVERY day after that constantly.

So if you have a PR 4 home page thats one page and you create a link to another page in navigation that new page will have PR (1, 2 and sometimes even PR3) THE VERY NEXT TIME THE SITE IS CRAWLED. Where it may have very little to speak of is on a site with a ton load of links and navigation (cough cough like cough cough article directories)

But hey don't mind us go charge for make money online or some great and competitive serp with your PR5 and PR6s all day long links. thing is I am not seeing that in any competitive serps because its pure Baloniii.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Eleva8

I'm with Mike Anthony on this one. Backlinks from guest posts published on blogs with high PR and low posting frequency are phenomenal. The traditional blog nav. will ensure juice flows internally and in many instances my guest posts have increased in PR which translates to a permanent high PR contextual link.

Not to mention you NEVER have to worry about a competitor reporting you should you get into the top on a mucho money serp. Guest posting is syndication which google will not tank as spam.

[InTheMaking]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Not to mention you NEVER have to worry about a competitor reporting you should you get into the top on a mucho money serp. Guest posting is syndication which google will not tank as spam.

Your so smart man, no wonder your always right 100% of the time and everyone is wrong.

Personally, i take all the information you give out with a grain of salt. I actually laugh when I read your posts.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by InTheMaking

I actually laugh when I read your posts.

more power to you man. I only hope I give back as much comedy as I have received

[MaverickUK]

Mike are you serious about the $100 offer? I'm on my way to an 18,000 exact match term and wouldn't mind a cool $100 when i reach the first page, hopefully before Christmas. I do however tend to agree with some aspects of what you are saying.

I have a PR 3 domain and each and every page that is listed on my website has at least a pagerank of 2 or higher, however there are many variables that dictates this. Are you not just assuming too much in regards to the persons who's blog(s) were referring to?

[MaverickUK]

And just to add Mike... The guy offering the service is getting 3000+ words whilst the person getting the link is potentially getting a backlink on a PR 1 domain, which means you won't get a PR 1 page right off the bat.

I can guarantee that most people can get a lot more value if they spent the time they potentially had writing articles instead gaining lower pagerank backlinks pointing to their already existing backlinks.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

Mike are you serious about the $100 offer? I'm on my way to an 18,000 exact match term and wouldn't mind a cool $100 when i reach the first page, hopefully before Christmas. I do however tend to agree with some aspects of what you are saying.

Christmas? My Green bills would like a new home within the next 30-60 days but 18,000 exact doesn't really mean highly competitive so beware your claim to a new home for my Paypal $100 is not necessarily yours. I judge competitive by the first page not any of that other made up stuff sellers have created to make it look like their stuff works for "competitive" terms.

I have a PR 3 domain and each and every page that is listed on my website has at least a pagerank of 2 or higher, however there are many variables that dictates this. Are you not just assuming too much in regards to the persons who's blog(s) were referring to?

Not really. I am not pretending to know how his sites are setup. I am more responding to the overall ideas that people are trying to claim regarding what must be. Like you yourself have seen with navigation new pages can in fact get PR and they get them long before the toolbar updates .

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

And just to add Mike... The guy offering the service is getting 3000+ words whilst the person getting the link is potentially getting a backlink on a PR 1 domain, which means you won't get a PR 1 page right off the bat.

A) I see him saying minimum 400 words. Where are you coming up with 3000+
B) he specifically states that it depends on niche not that it is arbitrary and to PM him so I assume you would know what the Pr is before writing for it. Guy seems to have a mix of domains with different PRs and wants content. Perfectly natural.

Unless you have Pmed him your are just making up things that are not in the offer.

[MaverickUK]

I thought we were talking in the context of this particular persons blogs, guess not. The first page is highly competitive I can assure you that, I will let you know more details later today and see if it fits in with your criteria. It's almost 7am and I haven't slept yet, I think I'm starting to lose the plot.

I won't say no to $100 Christmas beer money!

Whilst I'd love to give your bills a new home sooner, but unfortunately I've got far too many other keywords that need to be dealt with.

[MaverickUK]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

A) I see him saying minimum 400 words. Where are you coming up with 3000+
B) he specifically states that it depends on niche not that it is arbitrary and to PM him so I assume you would know what the Pr is before writing for it. Guy seems to have a mix of domains with different PRs and wants content. Perfectly natural.

Unless you have Pmed him your are just making up things that are not in the offer.

Well judging by the sentence; "At least 400+ word good-high quality unique content on the topics of" blah blah blah, I assumed he wanted a post for each and every topic. It looks that way to me.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

I thought we were talking in the context of this particular persons blogs, guess not.

We are

Guest Post Opportunities On Great Sites. Get Powerful Links FREE!

Where does he say 3,000 words?
He states clearly the Pr is based on the niche not arbitrary.
and he states the sites PRESENTLY have the PR that he is referring to. He does say he will build them up as well but you are reading that like they don't presently have PR.

and very comeptitive? If I had a dime for everytime I heard that in regard to some mediocre term I would be weighed down with dimes. Get some sleep man. I had a nap earlier this evening so I am wide eyed

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

Well judging by the sentence; "At least 400+ word good-high quality unique content on the topics of" blah blah blah, I assumed he wanted a post for each and every topic. It looks that way to me.

read man. States clearly two links per article and you submit as many articles as you want.

[MaverickUK]

Lol. I did tell you I was losing the plot. I think I'll go sleep now.

I assumed he wanted one article per niche, in return we could get two links on a given article. But that doesn't make sense - reading when it's way past your bed time can become ridiculously inaccurate lol.

One last thing though, I know a lot of people on these forums throw the term "competitive" around very loosely, but that's not the case for everyone here. Some of us do have a small clue as to what were talking about, but I wouldn't expect you to believe that - at least not on here

Unless my post was on a PR 3 or 4 donain that is laid out well and with the navigation set out 'correctly', I'd prefer to backlink an EZA article personally. But each to his own.

[Marx Vergel Melencio]

Hi,

Here's another concept I'd like to throw out there:

Unique high PR homepage content with backlinks under a well aged domain with a niche and keyword-relevant domain name. How to get these homepage content pages with backlinks under these domains?

1. Google each of your target keywords and take note of the top ten competing pages...

2. Use SEOQuake to view PR of each competing page, then use SEO SpyGlass to gather backlink portfolio details of each competing page. SEO SpyGlass will give you the number of backlinks pointing to those competing pages, URLs of linking pages, keyword anchors of those backlinks, PR of linking pages, number and URLs of outbound links on each linking page, Alexa rank of domains where those linking pages are found, and IPs of those domains...

3. Outdo the backlink portfolios of each of your competitors for each of your target keywords. You can do the following steps:

3.1. Find a tool that will provide you with a list of expired and deleted domains with niche and keyword-relevant domain names, including current PR, expiration or deletion date and first registration date. There are lots of these tools out there, and Google will point you to a good set of tools...

3.2. Gather backlink portfolio details of the expired and deleted domains you chose. You can use SEO SpyGlass. This tool, as mentioned above, will give you the number of backlinks pointing to the domain, URLs of linking pages, PR of linking pages, keyword anchors of those backlinks, number and URLs of outbound links on each linking page, Alexa rank of domains where those linking pages are found, and IPs of those domains...

3.3. Once you zone in on a list of good domains and have validated their PRs and backlink portfolios: Register them, though keep in mind that Google can see registrant details even with whois guard...

3.4. Get VPS hosting and unique IPs. Attach a unique IP to each of those domains...

3.5. Install a Wordpress instance and upload good Wordpress themes and Wordpress plugins to each of the directories of those Wordpress instances dedicated to each of those domains...

3.6. Write unique homepage content with backlinks and useful info, advice, tips, strategies and techniques contextually relevant to your target keywords for each of those Wordpress sites. Use SEOPressor to get recommendations regarding the overall SEO of each homepage, and don't forget to use a combination of your target keywords in H1s/titles, H2s, H3s and H4s of those homepages. These can even be the anchors of your backlinks...

3.7. Develop a brief 1 to 2-minute introductory video for each of those Wordpress sites and post them on the homepage. You could upload them to Youtube and just embed them on your Wordpress sites. Remember to write a good, SEOd title and enter your target keywords as the tags of those videos. Google loves media-rich sites and pages...

3.8. Start marketing a similar offer being discussed here, i.e. For guest authoring arrangements, for free backlinks for the guest authors, and free, unique content for you, now the owner of those sites with high PR homepages under well aged domains with niche and keyword-relevant domain names. Your customers will update your websites with unique content, and some will even build backlinks for their guest posts and pages on your websites...

Just wanted to add a different, relevant angle to the discussion here...

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

One last thing though, I know a lot of people on these forums throw the term "competitive" around very loosely, but that's not the case for everyone here. Some of us do have a small clue as to what were talking about, but I wouldn't expect you to believe that - at least not on here
.

Fair enough Mav. I'll keep my paypal account at the ready.

[lovboa]

I may not have years of seo experience like some of you in this thread, but in my short time learning SEO and building my niche site, I found the most valuable backlinks were from the sites that were ranking on first page of my keyword. Of course, I was only able to backlink to 1-2 top ranked sites for my keyword...but the results were amazing. Even if they were no-follow.

In a Google Q&A (which is where I first got the bright idea to backlink on higher ranking site), Matt Cutts even said that if a site ranking higher than yours is linking to your site, Google will look at your site as equivalent value.

Of course, being able to actually stick a backlink on the top ranked sites is very difficult (either they will have comments disabled or won't approve it). But if that is what op is offering, I don't know what all this nay-saying is about.

[IM Ash]

Originally Posted by lovboa

I may not have years of seo experience like some of you in this thread....

You don't need years of experience to become fluent in SEO. Just put what you learn into practice and in no time you will know much more than the information sponges who never implement what they learn

[markowe]

Just looking at a couple of guests posts I did a couple of months ago on some high PR blogs.

One was on a PR4 blog (homepage PR) and my article already has PR3 after two or three months.

One was on a PR5 blog and now my article also has PR5! That's in less than 3 months.

So I'll take that any day. What I AM a bit sceptical about is the impact this has had on my money site's rankings, but I'll take the long-term view for now...

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by lovboa

Of course, being able to actually stick a backlink on the top ranked sites is very difficult (either they will have comments disabled or won't approve it). But if that is what op is offering, I don't know what all this nay-saying is about.

YEP not even blog comments but full out posts with two links within a great deal of context. The nay saying reminds me of the good old days of telling people that forum profiles were going to get very weak as a linking technique. Most of the board now sees how that turned out but people got seething angry at the facts (especially sellers).

Pure BlueFartters and Lazy SEO people ( a lot of kids in that group too which is understandable) get very upset when you bring up other strategies. I dunno maybe they think it indicts their techniques or they want to live in a fantasy world where everything is easy with the push of a button. So they stay in weak competition terms so they can think thats all there is or should be and believe their laziness is really brilliance.

In this case its just silly. You can have a well written article for as little as five dollars, get a link that Google is far less likely to discount and because its real content is unlikely to be deleted as spam by the blog owner. . or you can spend it on list of profile links ala Angela

[markowe]

Mike, I agree that this should be a part of everyone's SEO strategy, getting articles with backlinks on high-PR blogs. I would find it surprising that anyone thought that was time wasted. Give me a few contextual backlinks on high-PR blogs over a 1000-directory AMR blast any day.

I am just guessing the lack of takers is due to there being a lot of choice out there. You can pretty much put an article (albeit spun) onto Authority Link Network for a similar bunch of PR backlinks, or use some of the paying blog networks - maybe this network (if that is what it is) just doesn't seem anything special with the sites going as low as PR1. Personally, I can always find a ton of guest blogging opportunities in my niche/s just by Googling for them, often on PR5, 6 domains, so I just feel my time is best spent there (though those kinds of blogs require a higher quality of article too).

[VPNeOMan]

Originally Posted by markowe

Mike, I agree that this should be a part of everyone's SEO strategy, getting articles with backlinks on high-PR blogs. I would find it surprising that anyone thought that was time wasted. Give me a few contextual backlinks on high-PR blogs over a 1000-directory AMR blast any day.

Of course, it is better to use something else, along with articles. That is why I love linkwheels

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by markowe

Personally, I can always find a ton of guest blogging opportunities in my niche/s just by Googling for them, often on PR5, 6 domains, so I just feel my time is best spent there (though those kinds of blogs require a higher quality of article too).

I got you and agree if you have those opportunities. But there's a big difference between saying that you have other opportunities to do guest blogging and trying to claim people are silly for writing articles to get quality links when they could be blog commenting . You are on target . they are not.

Like they are the same thing and Pr on a page is all that matters without regard to OBl and other factors. Such guidance just trashes up this whole joint and from the amount of people still not ranking after blog commenting it isn't even just a spam issue but of what doesn't work in competitive niches.

[paulgl]

Interesting thread Mike, but...

There's no guarantee of anything. You are spending your time,
writing what should be a unique article, for someone you don't
know, building their site, with no assurance it will stick around.

Could be a complete waste of time, taken from time you could
be adding to your own sites. I rehash my own articles for
blog posts on my blog. Instant link, staying power, etc.

I would not pay $5 for blog comments.

I say it a lot. Work on your own stuff, 100% of the time. That's
the only way to be assured of staying power for the long run.

Building up someone's site is not my cup of tea. I don't do EZA
either.

The only thing that is 100% sure is your own links on your own
sites/pages.

If someone put a sack of trash in their driveway and put a "free"
sign on it, would you pick it up because it's free?

Paul

[markowe]

Yeah, I would be very surprised if high-PR blog commenting would have the same impact as contextual high-PR blog article links, EVEN if the links stick, they are not nofollow, have keyword anchor text, and don't have 2000 other comments on the same page (preferably one or two at most). I am surprised Google gives these any weight at all, since they are one of the few types of links (along with profile links) that are PROVABLY self-serving, practically by definition. Not to say I don't do that type of "quality" blog commenting, but doubt they carry nearly as much clout as "a link on a PR6 page" 'sounds' like it ought to have.

[markowe]

I see where you are coming from Paul, but the whole Google ranking system is founded on backlinks from sites you don't own, so how're you going to leverage that without SOME give and take with other site owners? Leveraging each other's resources to mutual benefit has to play some part.

I agree though, a network like the one we are talking about is a bit of an unknown quantity to start investing quality content in, or whatever. Whether a $5 article would pass muster is another matter.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by paulgl

Interesting thread Mike, but...

There's no guarantee of anything. You are spending your time,
writing what should be a unique article, for someone you don't
know, building their site, with no assurance it will stick around.

True Paul but can't that be said for any link building technique and even more so? Don't have to tell me about building up your own stuff. I am the guy that recommends and teaches people how to build their own blog networks. Thats a pretty sure way your links won't be deleted But article directory links can go away, blog comment spam WILL go away, forum profiles are deleted, blog networks roll your links off the into oblivion and they can get deindexed as well etc etc. . Theres no assurances ANYTHING will stick around.

but umm just hypothetically what if there were assurances (not guarantees)? Like say a system where if someone yanked a link they were likely to lose a lot of their links too?