Well now that site is number 1, the new site you guys were talking bout

[outwest]

That weight loss site is now number 1, the new domain with so many strong backlinks and yes it has amazing backlinks, wonder how they got so many of them

at first when I checked on that site with Market Samurai I said ah they dropped out of the rankings
then i realized they are number one now

btw thats with only 22 indexed pages

www.hereshowtoloseweightfast.com

so I guess this is a lesson for all of us

Its all about the backlinks, apparently

Domain Age? not important
btw that new site is now a PR6

[michael scott]

False. You are missing a big piece of the puzzle. They have a PR 6 domain:kanyadatours.com 301'd to the new domain. This automatically gives the new domain PR/age/authority, thus the ability to rank high and fast.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by michael scott

False. You are missing a big piece of the puzzle. They have a PR 6 domain:kanyadatours.com 301'd to the new domain. This automatically gives the new domain PR/age/authority, thus the ability to rank high and fast.

if it were that easy, why did they go get 1000s of backlinks then?
People would be doing that left and right, I dont buy your explanation

go check the PR of their backlinks
they have TONS of high PR backlinks

if it were as simple as you say, why go to all the trouble and expense?

The backlink analyzer said they have 6 PR 6 backlinks, and about 35 PR 5 Backlinks, and a ton of the other PRs also

[michael scott]

I'm not discounting the fact that he has a huge private blog network link profile. There is a reason he redirected that PR 6 domain. It's just one of the things he did to get the site #1.

Btw, if the redirect part was easy, then everyone would be redirecting PR 6, 10 year old domains to their new domains.

BRB, going to redirect a few PR 7's to my new domains.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by michael scott

I'm not discounting the fact that he has a huge private blog network link profile. There is a reason he redirected that PR 6 domain. It's just one of the things he did to get the site #1.

Btw, if the redirect part was easy, then everyone would be redirecting PR 6, 10 year old domains to their new domains.

BRB, going to redirect a few PR 7's to my new domains.

I doubt that google cannot detect redirect PR values, so basically its a fake PR then

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by outwest

if it were as simple as you say, why go to all the trouble and expense?

He didn't say a single thing about it being simple. He merely said the site got help from an old aged domain with PR. You go around on this board claiming people don't know SEO, no one should have to pay anything and its easy to learn and then he puts the evidence right in front of you and you still don't get it. Perhaps the internets can't teach you everything 'you claimed.

Here do the info check

info:kanyadatours.com - Google Search


See the difference in the domains listed and searched for. The PR 6 you are cooing about is from an aged domain. Besides two months is what it takes for a domain to age sufficiently. Google even made that slip and its been confirmed many times as roughly the time it takes. Even the new domain is two months old.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by outwest

I doubt that google cannot detect redirect PR values, so basically its a fake PR then

Redirects are not automatically discounted by Google. There are some perfectly legit reasons to use a redirect.. Though the word fake has become popular you can use a redirected domain without any intent to fake. Really the only ones really faking PR are sellers of domains.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

He didn't say a single thing about it being simple. He merely said the site got help from an old aged domain with PR. You go around on this board claiming people don't know SEO, no one should have to pay anything and its easy to learn and then he puts the evidence right in front of you and you still don't get it. Perhaps the internets can't teach you everything 'you claimed.

Here do the info check

info:kanyadatours.com - Google Search


See the difference in the domains listed and searched for the PR 6 you are cooing about is from an aged domain. Besides two months is what it takes for a domain to age sufficiently. Google even made that slip and its been confirmed many times as roughly the time it takes. Even the new domain is two months old.

I dont really give a rats behind about his PR, (that I am "cooing" about as you claim)

I give a rats behind of how he ranked number 1 on that term with a new domain. If the PR is unimportant, or if he can get a PR6 with a fake redirect, how does that affect his number 1 ranking, thats all that is important

the guy implied that the redirect is the reason he is number 1, and I said why waste all the money on all the other backlinks then

[outwest]

Point is, how important is the redirect PR6 in his number one ranking

If that is the reason he is number one (I highly doubt that) then why spend all the time and effort on all his other high PR backlinks.

[patrich]

Originally Posted by outwest

Point is, how important is the redirect PR6 in his number one ranking

If that is the reason he is number one (I highly doubt that) then why spend all the time and effort on all his other high PR backlinks.

Its all pretty simple. He used a high pr blog network and got rankings. Not that impressive really, pretty much back to the basics.

[outwest]

If you look at all his high PR backlinks, I dont think any blog network can provide that many certainly not BMR, perhaps he used many networks

what networks can provide 35 PR5 Backlinks?
and doesnt the PR disappear once the posts fall off the first page?

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by outwest

I dont really give a rats behind about his PR, (that I am "cooing" about as you claim)

Um you are the one that brought it up.

and you are making up a strawman. No one said it was THE reason but that you were missing a part of the picture (which of course you were and still are) . A redirect conveys juice with it.

[patrich]

Originally Posted by outwest

If you look at all his high PR backlinks, I dont think any blog network can provide that many certainly not BMR, perhaps he used many networks

what networks can provide 35 PR5 Backlinks?
and doesnt the PR disappear once the posts fall off the first page?

There are several that I know of, I have used the high pr network he/she is using.

The point here is, its not a big secret there was no magic touch, he payed for a high pr blog network, submitted blog posts and got good rankings. People do it everyday.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Um you are the one that brought it up.

and you are making up a strawman. No one said it was THE reason but that you were missing a part of the picture (which of course you were and still are) . A redirect conveys juice with it.

I will not argue with you
your nick name is my first and middle name , (you cant be a bad chap)

[Jyslee]

Originally Posted by patrich

There are several that I know of, I have used the high pr network he/she is using.

The point here is, its not a big secret there was no magic touch, he payed for a high pr blog network, submitted blog posts and got good rankings. People do it everyday.

If you don't mind sharing, what pr network is he/she using? If you don't want to say it publicly, you could simply PM me.

[Jyslee]

Originally Posted by patrich

There are several that I know of, I have used the high pr network he/she is using.

The point here is, its not a big secret there was no magic touch, he payed for a high pr blog network, submitted blog posts and got good rankings. People do it everyday.

Got your PM! Couldn't reply though. Basically I was saying thank you.

[Fraggler]

Originally Posted by outwest

If that is the reason he is number one (I highly doubt that) then why spend all the time and effort on all his other high PR backlinks.

The redirect won't give him the anchor text relevancy he needs to rank for a specific term. The redirect passes on the authority to the new site; it makes it more responsive to new keywords and content.

[affishv]

Patrich,
If you don't mind sharing, what pr network is he/she using, can you PM me as well.

Thanks mate!!

[oldvintageguy]

Would you please PM me the network he/she is using? I was going to PM you, but realized I am still a few posts short of being able to PM. (And I didn't want to go around the forum making posts just so I could have the ability to PM
Thank you!!

[outwest]

He must be using about 10 networks, with that many backlinks as he has

[oldvintageguy]

Originally Posted by affishv

Patrich,
If you don't mind sharing, what pr network is he/she using, can you PM me as well.

Thanks mate!!

Would you please PM me the private network? Thanks!

[outwest]

How can someone determine the network he is using
you telling me one network is giving 14000 backlinks?

[RatRaceWatch]

Outwest, have you determined all 14000 of those backlinks are high pr contextual links?

They could be using a mixture of the HIGH PR (Exclusive network) or networks, something BMR or SEO link vine, blog commenting, etc.

A combination of all of that could easily make up for the 14,000 backlinks plus the many high pr contextual links.

[outwest]

No I didnt say all the 14000 links were high PR HPBL,
I just wonder why people do so many BLs
I saw one guy who did a security guard website, started a year ago now he ranks number one, he now has 180k backlinks

[islandsail]

@ Patrich, could you PM me some info about this private network, and maybe any others you'd recommend?

Thanks!!

[RayW]

Can the owner of the site just tell us exactly what he did to get his ranked #1? He's probably a member of WF.

[yukon]

Lol, I checked one of the backlinks on the site in OP, & it had that fake a#% looking javascript snow falling.

I havn't seen that irritating crap since 1997.

What's sad is it's running WP-3.2, who in their right mind takes the time to add javascript snow to a WP backlink network site in 2011?

[yukon]

BTW, this thread will probably get canned like the others that out sites/networks.

Some folks just have no sense of humor.