AdSense Visitor, Click, Views Rates

[majortraders]

Without giving too much details what kind of CPM/eCPM rates are you guys currently getting from AdSense and other advertisers? You can post your visitors/click/view ratios too if you want.

It's almost impossible to determine what Google is paying us advertisers. We are essentially blind and they can take whatever % they want. Hopefully we can make this information a little more transparent by sharing our info.

For 7 websites I'm getting an average of...
$1.45 eCPM from AdSense (PPC)
$1.90 eCPM from CasaleMedia (CPM)

[majortraders]

No one has information about their stats? I thought this would help us understand AdSense a bit more.

I assume this means that there's not a lot of people making a reasonable amount of money from AdSense on here.

If that's true feel free to ask questions if you want some tips to increase your earnings.

[theverysmartguy]

Just because people aren't showing you their stats doesn't mean they aren't making money.

I would say that the majority of people who do make money with their websites, be in adsense or other, aren't going to just start throwing up figures left and right, just fyi.

They are the ones who stay behind the scenes a lot, and don't advertise their earnings. It is no ones business how much money other people make.

And its not impossible to tell what Google is paying us; it is 68% of the bid on that click. We won't know what the bid was on that ad until we get a click and it shows what we got paid for.

-- Jeff

EDIT: BTW your eCPM seems a bit low to be honest.

[IM Ash]

I agree with Jeff!

And yea, that CPM figure is way low... are you sure you not confusing CPM with CPC?

[majortraders]

Originally Posted by Eleva8

I agree with Jeff!

And yea, that CPM figure is way low... are you sure you not confusing CPM with CPC?

They are not niche keyword sites like I know most of you are used to.

[IM Ash]

Originally Posted by majortraders

They are not niche keyword sites like I know most of you are used to.

Well, no one said anything about sniper sites and frankly you shouldn't assume what sites others are operating. If you are generating just over a dollar for 1000 impressions then that doesn't say much with regard to the quality of your traffic. Targeted traffic in a commercially viable niche = $$$

[theverysmartguy]

Originally Posted by Eleva8

Well, no one said anything about sniper sites and frankly you shouldn't assume what sites others are operating. If you are generating just over a dollar for 1000 impressions then that doesn't say much with regard to the quality of your traffic. Targeted traffic in a commercially viable niche = $$$

It might not actually be JUST the quality of his traffic, but the keywords he is targeting as well. But yes, the quality of his traffic is going to play a big role in how much money he will make from his websites.

Just so we are clear, when I create a website it is for informational purposes. So just because I use Adsense as my way to monetize the website does not mean that it is an MFA site.

Now, since I use adsense to monetize my site, I want to make money with it right? That means I target the information towards topics that have a high CPC. I then create pages and posts on that site that target a specific piece of information regarding the topic ( this means 1 keyword phrase ).

Now, if after all that work I was only getting $1 - $2 /1000 visits I would most likely dump the site, or find out what was going on. Even at 30k a month visitors that is only $30 - $60/month. With 30k visitors, while targeting the proper keywords, I would expect to make no less than $2k - $3k a month from that site. Why? Because of the keywords I target are of high enough CPC to get me there. And that is at a conversion of 5% - 10% approximately.

If you are satisfied with only making $30 - $60 a month on 30k visitors then by all means, keep making sites like that. You would need about 100 of them to make a decent income. That is IF you can get 30k visitors to your site in the first place. And because you would need so many to get to a good enough income to start out sourcing tasks, it is highly unlikely that you can reach that target.

I don't go after quantity when it comes to making money with my sites. I go after quality; sites that will pay me large enough amounts of money so that I only need a handful of sites to reach my "target" income before I scale it up. This usually means about 5 - 10 sites at most.

-- Jeff

[theverysmartguy]

Originally Posted by majortraders

They are not niche keyword sites like I know most of you are used to.

BTW, if you aren't TRYING to make money with adsense on your sites, then why bother putting it up there in the first place.

Any other clicks that take away from your main source of income is just plain foolish.

I know, people keep saying: "Don't put all your eggs in one basket." Well, this doesn't mean it refers to how you monetize your website. I target one way per site. It is more efficient that way.

If I am targeting physical products and using Amazon as the affiliate program, then I don't care about adsense clicks. Those clicks are going to be so low anyways that it would make no difference to my income level in the first place.

I just checked out a bunch of popular products from amazon, and they all have abysmal CPC in adsense. I would rather have my visitors click through to amazon and hopefully have them buy something, even if it wasn't what they clicked for, than get paid 10 - 20 cents for an adsense click.

-- Jeff

[IM Ash]

Jeff, with you all the way dude. When I mentioned commercially viable I was alluding to the niche and keywords that are targeted. I think I have a similar approach to you, I only build a site that I believe will make me $500+ per month... some sites have flopped though... it comes with the territory!

The OP is selling a WSO that relates to buying high volumes of traffic and I bet this the same traffic he is sending to his adsense sites, hence the poor conversions.

[theverysmartguy]

Yea I know what you meant. I wasn't against you at all in that post. I just quoted it to point it out to the OP, and then expanded on it.

HAHAHAHA yea, anyone who buys a WSO that says will send you traffic is going to be in for a surprise.

Those traffic generators aren't going to send you qualified traffic. Unless of course it is teaching you how to actually generate the targeted traffic on your own.

There are many many ways to get targeted traffic, but none of them involve blasting your site with traffic just to inflate the numbers. You'll be lucky to make any money that way. The only one that will is the person who sold you the traffic in the first place.

-- Jeff