How To Survive Google Panda

[Bob Sanchez]

I just read the latest post by Jennifer Ledbetter (PotpieGirl.com) regarding how to continue internet marketing efforts in spite of the recent Google Panda update. She makes some great suggestions.

The post contains a lot of info for newbie and intermediate marketers that will help them understand how Google is choosing to rank sites today and the other ways we can keep on marketing without relying to much on Google.

For Warriors affected by the Google update, what adjustments have you done to your sites and the way you market your products to cope with the update?

[Sornie Samante]

For all I know is that Long as your backlinks are relevant you have no problem with Google Panda/Farmer Update. Real Talk.

And the more you have links coming from authority sites that are related to your niche /offer/ etc the more the chance for the site of getting indexed for High Page Rank.

[Sornie Samante]

Here's a good Post for everyone.

Google Panda Has Changed SEO Forever

Enjoy!

[Sornie Samante]

Originally Posted by limon087

Hello, I am new in this way, I hired the name og Google Panda but I don't know what is this and how it is working.
can you tell me Boss. Please ....?

Check this article it will help you learn more about google panda

Google Panda Has Changed SEO Forever

I hope that helps

[fluffythewondercat]

"Recent Panda update"? Wasn't that like six months ago?

You guys remind me of generals who are always fighting the last war.

Concentrate on providing value and quality content and you'll never have to worry about the last war or the next.

fLufF
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[pacelattin]

Lol! Lovely point, and true.

Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat

"Recent Panda update"? Wasn't that like six months ago?

You guys remind me of generals who are always fighting the last war.

Concentrate on providing value and quality content and you'll never have to worry about the last war or the next.

fLufF
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[bjrntnt]

my learning from panda so far:

1. provide unique content with value
2. build links regarding your content
3. try to make your website look mostly fine
4. do not place too much ads
5. only link out to relevant websites regarding your topic

i guess it will work then, also in the future ;-)

[Sornie Samante]

Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat

"Recent Panda update"? Wasn't that like six months ago?

You guys remind me of generals who are always fighting the last war.

Concentrate on providing value and quality content and you'll never have to worry about the last war or the next.

fLufF
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True while it's necessary to learn the basics.
How would you like to be in a war without having the knowledge of how to even use a gun?

[sbucciarel]

I give Google what it wants. Lots of unique content.

[Rukshan]

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

I give Google what it wants. Lots of unique content.

This is the main point. Even a very basic unique article can be ranked well. Recently I created few MNS with simple posts and ranked well without backlinks.

[NicoleBeckett]

Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat

"Recent Panda update"? Wasn't that like six months ago?

The first one was. However, there have been 5 or 6 since then - with the latest one coming out about 2 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat

Concentrate on providing value and quality content and you'll never have to worry about the last war or the next.

This is the case with any of the Panda updates - past, present, and future. As long as you're genuinely providing solid information in an interesting way (instead of spinning keyword-stuffed gibberish), you'll be fine - no matter what Google has up its sleeve.

[Rod Cortez]

Originally Posted by Bob Sanchez

I just read the latest post by Jennifer Ledbetter (PotpieGirl.com) regarding how to continue internet marketing efforts in spite of the recent Google Panda update. She makes some great suggestions.

The post contains a lot of info for newbie and intermediate marketers that will help them understand how Google is choosing to rank sites today and the other ways we can keep on marketing without relying to much on Google.

For Warriors affected by the Google update, what adjustments have you done to your sites and the way you market your products to cope with the update?

I have made zero adjustments as my staff and I write original, quality content for human beings. The viral and syndication effect over time is what we focus on.

It's working even better since the Panda update since we don't rely on Google to get eyeballs. Granted, some things stay the same such as using keywords in our titles, having compelling resource boxes, distributing our content amongst a wide variety of distribution channels (radio, podcasts, press releases, authors, webmasters, etc.).

Another thing to think about is that since the Panda update, Google has modified their algo at least a dozen times. You're going to drive yourself crazy trying to keep up with them, assuming you even know what they are (most people don't).

Don't write to please Google, write to please your audience with a call to action, focus on building your own network of eyeballs and you can kick Google's butt all over the place! (As a side effect, they are going to love you anyway!). An important business question to ask is, "if Google were to kick me off it's search results, do I have enough traffic from other places to keep on going?"

I asked this question many years ago when Google was more than 50% of my traffic. After reading Allen Says' Private Posts I had to ask that question (it's in the War Room by the way, killer stuff). Today it's roughly 5% because we use other channels of distribution (hint: a big part of it is building your own list and your own network of readership and customers).

RoD

[Andyhenry]

Here's the secret to the Google Panda Update:


It's nothing........

It's just something that people selling SEO information have hooked onto to convince you that you need to buy new tools and information in order to market your website.

The only people who need to worry about ANY Google update are those people using automated tools and systems to try and trick Google into thinking their site is more popular than it actually is.

This 'gaming' of Google always goes on and they're always looking to stop it - play that game at your peril.

As Rod said - some of us have been doing this a long time and have changed almost NOTHING and still get great results without paying ANY attention to Googles algorithm changes.

If you base your business on trying to game Google then you're asking for trouble.

Stop looking for short-cuts and just do what works - long term and you can forget about Panda or any other updates.

The other side to this is even if you pay special attention to give Google exactly what they want - you could still get caught in an algorithm change, so the big message here is:

Stop trying to fit your business around Google and just focus on getting your product/service/message to your target customers as effectively as possible, while keeping in mind NOT to game Google and take whatever they give you as a bonus.

Sure you can do well from them - but it will only last while you're NOT trying to game their system.

If Google turned off tomorrow - where would your business be?

It's bad business for anyone to rely too heavily on anything they don't control.

[pacelattin]

Yes! Thank you!

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Stop looking for short-cuts and just do what works - long term and you can forget about Panda or any other updates.

[jaiganeshv]

IF your visitors stays more time on your site than your competitors.. you beat all the pandas otu there.. do not worry of anything..
its all based on the value you provide... panda is guess is for low quality sites. so you only have to worry if yours is of low quality with ads predominant.
dont worry about backlinks or their quality a backlink is a backlink. worry about improving quality and making visitor stay in your page more than they already do now... that 10-20 seconds extra time will do wonders.


get as much as backlinks possible to come up in seprs in first page.. once you are there.. and if your users love your site... google will have to make your STAY there irrespective of poor quality links etc.....

Ive had similar experience in a site of mine where i, last year beginning, enabled "do not notify search engines" option accidentally.. but it was still in first page because users were loving it (hint: user vote more than anything else) and were staying more than 2 minuts with minimum 3 page views per user...

now set your priorities straight and work on it...

[mysterrio]

Google has told us what they want. Not that they told us 100 percent...but they want good quality content, videos, useful stuff that engages the visitor and the ability to be GOD on the World Wide Web...for starters.

[Regal Content]

Originally Posted by mysterrio

Google has told us what they want. Not that they told us 100 percent...but they want good quality content, videos, useful stuff that engages the visitor and the ability to be GOD on the World Wide Web...for starters.

Right. Essentially you need to build a site with the user in mind, which has been said so many times it's like beating a dead horse. I think the biggest problem is that people don't really understand what this means.

They hear it and think of it in terms like "oh I should add videos" or "oh I should add more content"--but that's not necessarily what it means.

Think about the sites you love to visit the most, why do you go there? You need to recreate that kind of "valuable" experience but with your OWN websites/blogs/properties. This is the long term Panda defeating strategy IMO.

[ankur sharma]

Andy has nailed it. However, i am pretty sure, many newbies here will still think, they know something, which old folks here dont know. They will still believe they can "game the system". I guess, some people got to burn their fingers before realizing the right thing.

[Fazal Mayar]

unique content and revelant backlinks (strong ones) will always make you win even because of Panda.

[kindsvater]

Originally Posted by sornie

Check this article it will help you learn more about google panda

Google Panda Has Changed SEO Forever

I hope that helps

The person writing that article, IMHO, has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

The couple "factors" he mentions were already long part of the Google algorithm. They are not part of Panda.

He completely ignores what Google has said about Panda, the types of sites that have been hit and why, and the fact this is a MANUALLY induced SERP adjustment every 6 weeks or so, and not an ongoing evaluation dependent on how people interact with your site.

There is so much bad information being bandied about it is incredible.

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[vince04]

I have my rankings fluctuation.. And last week I lost all my rankings. Even though I have my own private network websites for my link building purposes. I guess still continuing proper link building in different websites combined link building with my private network website.

[Rach72]

Originally Posted by vgregory

Its quite challenging to overcome google panda..Everything changed because of it...

Then stop trying to 'overcome' it.

If you are relying on Google, Bing or anyone else for your traffic then you need to play by their rules and will always be behind the 8-ball.

This is YOUR business, if you want to be in control then set it up properly and don't rely on other people for your success.

[jwmann2]

The Update is really hurting webmasters that were using article directories to manipulate the system. SEO is hard work and takes time. Buts it worth it as is anything that is great.

[Christine2011]

Originally Posted by Rod Cortez

I have made zero adjustments as my staff and I write original, quality content for human beings. The viral and syndication effect over time is what we focus on.

It's working even better since the Panda update since we don't rely on Google to get eyeballs. Granted, some things stay the same such as using keywords in our titles, having compelling resource boxes, distributing our content amongst a wide variety of distribution channels (radio, podcasts, press releases, authors, webmasters, etc.).

Another thing to think about is that since the Panda update, Google has modified their algo at least a dozen times. You're going to drive yourself crazy trying to keep up with them, assuming you even know what they are (most people don't).

Don't write to please Google, write to please your audience with a call to action, focus on building your own network of eyeballs and you can kick Google's butt all over the place! (As a side effect, they are going to love you anyway!). An important business question to ask is, "if Google were to kick me off it's search results, do I have enough traffic from other places to keep on going?"

I asked this question many years ago when Google was more than 50% of my traffic. After reading Allen Says' Private Posts I had to ask that question (it's in the War Room by the way, killer stuff). Today it's roughly 5% because we use other channels of distribution (hint: a big part of it is building your own list and your own network of readership and customers).

RoD

Couldn't think of more Great post here!

[Duy Nguyen]

Agree, this whole Google Panda thing is a real mess. But I also appreciate the effort from Google to kick spammers out of the game.

Value and quality content? I doubt it. How do you define what "quality and value content" is? To some, it might be very helpful (as they are new to the field). To others, it's just like a piece of crap (as they're highly knowledgeable).

What I want to point out here is after the Panda kicking in, many people going around screaming "the sky is falling!" They say to survive, you must feed the Panda with original, one-of-a-kind, useful content. Or else, it will eat you! Really? Does that Panda speak English? I don't think so.

So how to survive? Although I feel like shooting my foot now but it's really important to not relying too heavily on Google for traffic. They will change their algorithms again and again. That's for sure. It's time to build a list (God damn, I have to practice this)

Duy.

[Mizzy Princess]

I've been searching a thread like this. And thanks God i found it. And now i learned so much from this thread because a lot of people share their knowledge about Google Panda. Thanks to you guys!

[Targeted Traffic]

With the new update...I believe content would not be enough...
Now...think of design and user experience.
I know, good SEOs have been preaching design user experience for years because it tends to generate more links, people contribute more content to it, it gets more social signal shares and tweets and all this other sort of good second order effect. Now, it has a first order effect impact, a primary impact. If you can make your design absolutely beautiful, versus something like this where content is buffeted by advertising and you have to click next, next, next a lot.
The content isn't all in one page. You cannot view it in that single page format. Boy, the content blocks themselves aren't that fun to read, even if it is not advertising that's surrounding them, even if it is just internal messaging or the graphics don't look very good. The site design feels like it was way back in the 1990s. All that stuff will impact the ability of this page, this site to perform. Don't forget, Google has actually said publicly that even if you have a great site, if you have a bunch of pages that are low quality on that site, they can drag down the rankings of the rest of the site....

[IamTJM]

My strategy hasn't changed at all since the first Panda update and my sites still rank just fine. High PR backlinks, social bookmarking, press releases, rss feeds, etc. along with on page SEO still work fine with me. Of course, unique content is also key.

[Bob Sanchez]

Thanks for all your responses. I learned new things from them. Here's another post by Jennifer Ledbetter and in this one she explains how Google makes algo changes: Google Algo Changes and Google Manual Reviews - How It Works | PotPieGirl.com

It has a video of Google employees explaining how they make Google algo changes. What do you guys think?

[Becker13]

Make sites that dont suck...

Google does not slap amazing useful sites that people actually use..evar

[kedipmata]

unique content and updates Conten with consistent. Google love this.

[options]

There is one thing i noticed the other day and thats the google + 1

I was checking my keyword in google like you do, not signed in to gmail.

page 1 position 7 thats ok i thought. Then the next day i checked again, page 1 postion 3 ! wow i thought that was quick.

Then i remembered that i +1 my own site and was logged in to gmail.

So i jumped 4 spots because google knew i +1 that site.

Ummm i wonder how much it would cost to get everyone to +1 my site

[Oranges]

Nothing much! Cross your fingers and start praying to survive the next "RANDOM" panda update by luck or fluke.

[Phillip M King]

$5 or some multiple thereof

Originally Posted by options

Ummm i wonder how much it would cost to get everyone to +1 my site

[coronaborcalis]

One thing I notice from my competitor that still ranked in first spot in SERP and never effected in every Google Panda update is buy Homepage Backlink. Its the strongest backlink in the world that is why we have to pay couple hundred dollars per month, quite expensive but satisfying result

[vvsingh]

Google has made several algorithmic updates like Panda in the past too. If you focus on user and then optimize then nothing has changed. Panda has changed things for those who are too much focused on search engine rankings. Keep churning out good content you will get hundreds of link automatically if people share it.