My website comes up when typed in to google, but pr is 0?

[triojobss]

Hello,

I submitted my site to Google about 5 days ago and I decided to check if it had been registered yet and I think it had been because my website appeared when typed into Google.

But when I checked with a PR tool it came up that my site was PR 0, does this mean that my site isn't ranked?

How can I solve this?

Thanks.

[TolyZ]

Most of the web sites are PR0. Don't worrry about your PR at the moment, work on getting your web site ranked.
If you want to check you google position for a keyword you need SERP checker.
This one is pretty good:
Pagerank checker :Google SERPs checker: results many countries Google Pagerank SERPs index results web SEO tools

If you want to see if google indexed your web site type in google "www.yourwebsite.com" and if it comes up then google indexed your web site.

[triojobss]

Originally Posted by TolyZ

Most of the web sites are PR0. Don't worrry about your PR at the moment, work on getting your web site ranked.
If you want to check you google position for a keyword you need SERP checker.
This one is pretty good:
Pagerank checker :Google SERPs checker: results many countries Google Pagerank SERPs index results web SEO tools

If you want to see if google indexed your web site type in google "www.yourwebsite.com" and if it comes up then google indexed your web site.

Thanks, it is indexed it just isn't ranked on pages...

How does it become ranked or will it become ranked over time? My other websites are ranked but I haven't done anything different for them?

[H.Miller]

You rank by building backlinks to your site. Regardless of your PR if you type the actual web address in the search engine it will come up. What you need to focus on is making sure your site comes up for the keywords associated with your site. In other words, what will people type in the search engines when they are looking for the information you are offering?

For example, if someone is wanting to learn how to repair their credit they will type in something like "how to repair credit". They are not going to type in an actual web address. So you need to focus on ranking for the keywords that people will be typing into the search engines when they search for information about the product or service you are offering.

[triojobss]

Originally Posted by H.Miller

You rank by building backlinks to your site. Regardless of your PR if you type the actual web address in the search engine it will come up. What you need to focus on is making sure your site comes up for the keywords associated with your site. In other words, what will people type in the search engines when they are looking for the information you are offering?

For example, if someone is wanting to learn how to repair their credit they will type in something like "how to repair credit". They are not going to type in an actual web address. So you need to focus on ranking for the keywords that people will be typing into the search engines when they search for information about the product or service you are offering.

So basically I need to get backlinks with my keywords?

Got any tips?

Thanks.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by triojobss

So basically I need to get backlinks with my keywords?

That will certainly help.

(Content and other on-page SEO can also help to some extent).

Originally Posted by triojobss

Got any tips?

Backlink-building, these days, is all about quality and relevance.

Backlinks on sites in the same niche as you, with overlapping keywords and LSI-keywords with your site, are generally far better than "random backlinks".

Try not to think in terms of "numbers of backlinks" alone; nor "page-ranks" (these are less and less significant all the time), but in terms of quality and relevance.

Links from forums specific to your niche are generally very good, because in search engines' eyes they have plenty of relevance to your site and your keywords.

Links from blog comments/posts of blogs in your niche are generally very good (for the same reasons).

"Mass"/"automated" backlinks are generally very poor. As an example, one would expect the linkjuice from tens of thousands of article directory backlinks to be equivalent to that from one backlink on a relevant, respected authority site in your niche. The different between "good backlinks" and "poor backlinks" is overwhelming, and apparently increasing every time Google changes their algorithms. Steer clear of things like "forum profile backlinks", which are really just glorified spam (not even very "glorified") and won't help you. Anything automated, including services which use automated/mass backlinks, aren't typically worth having.

[triojobss]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

That will certainly help.

(Content and other on-page SEO can also help to some extent).



Backlink-building, these days, is all about quality and relevance.

Backlinks on sites in the same niche as you, with overlapping keywords and LSI-keywords with your site, are generally far better than "random backlinks".

Try not to think in terms of "numbers of backlinks" alone; nor "page-ranks" (these are less and less significant all the time), but in terms of quality and relevance.

Links from forums specific to your niche are generally very good, because in search engines' eyes they have plenty of relevance to your site and your keywords.

Links from blog comments/posts of blogs in your niche are generally very good (for the same reasons).

"Mass"/"automated" backlinks are generally very poor. As an example, one would expect the linkjuice from tens of thousands of article directory backlinks to be equivalent to that from one backlink on a relevant, respected authority site in your niche. The different between "good backlinks" and "poor backlinks" is overwhelming, and apparently increasing every time Google changes their algorithms. Steer clear of things like "forum profile backlinks", which are really just glorified spam (not even very "glorified") and won't help you. Anything automated, including services which use automated/mass backlinks, aren't typically worth having.

As usual... your provided me with what I wanted and more!

Thanks alot for that thorough post it really helped me out!

I shall start backlinking with keywords as soon as possible! But once I have backlinked will my page rank rise?

Thanks again!

[sbucciarel]

If you have a new site, it will be automatically pagerank 0. All new sites are. They only get pagerank after time and after a lot of unique, quality content. Pagerank is meaningless. Backlinks will get you a higher position in the serps and that's what matters. Pagerank doesn't matter.

[triojobss]

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

If you have a new site, it will be automatically pagerank 0. All new sites are. They only get pagerank after time and after a lot of unique, quality content. Pagerank is meaningless. Backlinks will get you a higher position in the serps and that's what matters. Pagerank doesn't matter.

Thanks for the simple explanation I understand now!

I will focus on backlinks for now!

[JDArchitecture]

Originally Posted by triojobss

Thanks, it is indexed it just isn't ranked on pages...

PR (Page Rank) is not the same as where your site ranks in search results.

PR is just one tiny factor in the search algorithm. Dont dwell on it.

[triojobss]

I have found a service which offers me 50 .edu backlinks, would this work for me?

Thanks.

[manicmethods]

Why are people so obsessed with bloody PR. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't.

At the end of the day, if you're getting traffic and you're getting sales then what does PR matter.

[InternetMarketingIQ]

That's odd... I didn't know SITES had PR... I always thought P stood for PAGE not SITE.

hmmm

maybe you could look into that... it could be the magic ranking secret.

[triojobss]

Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ

That's odd... I didn't know SITES had PR... I always thought P stood for PAGE not SITE.

hmmm

maybe you could look into that... it could be the magic ranking secret.

Yes, as people have said.. it can help with the ranking of your website!

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by triojobss

I have found a service which offers me 50 .edu backlinks, would this work for me?

I strongly urge you to stop looking at services offering cheap backlinks.

Which top-level domain extension represents the domain of which a backlink appears on any given page doesn't in itself affect the value of the linkjuice at all.

So say Matt Cutts, Google, my experience, the experience of others I trust, and the authors of all the standard SEO textbooks.

And it would be very, very bizarre and quite unaccountable if it did!

This is one of the most persistently propagated, widely-believed urban myths in the whole of internet marketing.

.edu, in itself, means nothing to the value of a backlink.

Don't assume that .edu backlinks are necessarily going to be valuable "just because they're .edu backlinks". That isn't how it works at all.

Domain-extensions have no bearing, in themselves, either on SEO or on the value of backlinks. It's perfectly true, of course, that many .edu backlinks are very good backlinks to get, but correlation isn't causation, and it's not the fact that they're on .edu pages that, in itself, confers any "extra benefit" at all.

The point here is simply that many (by no means all!) .edu sites are also, at least to some extent, authority sites, and that's what makes their backlinks valuable ones.

Other .edu pages aren't "authority sites" at all.

I have a couple of .edu blogs, myself, but sadly their backlinks are worth no more than a backlink from any of my .com, .info or any other sites, and in fact usually worth quite a bit less, because some of my main .info/.com sites are now building up quite a bit of "authority" and some of their pages are building up some higher PR's, too.

So don't imagine that "being on a .edu site" necessarily makes a backlink better than any other sort of backlink. Sadly.

The analogy that always springs to mind, in this context, is the belief that having a "blog" rather than a "non-blog website" is going to confer extra SEO/backlink benefit "because Google loves blogs". Again, the logic here is pretty mistaken, and in the same way: it's the attribution of causation that's at fault. The reality, in this case, is simply that "Google loves regularly updated websites", and a lot of blogs do happen to be regularly updated websites. Again, correlation is not causation.

If you have a niche site about arthritis remedies, for example, a .edu backlink from a university's/med-school's rheumatology site is going to be potential gold-dust, while a student forum or blog which - like so many - is non-context-relevant and PR-0 will actually be no better at all than any other random non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlink such as an article directory.

Contrary to popular belief, it isn't the "being on a .edu site" aspect of it that gives any advantage.

Call me a skepchick, but (as with so many other things in internet marketing) if you ask people selling them, of course, you may hear a slightly different story. And that's more or less what you're doing at the moment, by looking at "backlinking services", which is why I'm suggesting you should stop doing that.

[triojobss]

Thanks alot for sharing that and clearing it up!

Where do you recommend I go or what do you recommend I buy if I am not backlinking myself?

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I strongly urge you to stop looking at services offering cheap backlinks.

Which top-level domain extension represents the domain of which a backlink appears on any given page doesn't in itself affect the value of the linkjuice at all.

So say Matt Cutts, Google, my experience, the experience of others I trust, and the authors of all the standard SEO textbooks.

And it would be very, very bizarre and quite unaccountable if it did!

This is one of the most persistently propagated, widely-believed urban myths in the whole of internet marketing.

.edu, in itself, means nothing to the value of a backlink.

Don't assume that .edu backlinks are necessarily going to be valuable "just because they're .edu backlinks". That isn't how it works at all.

Domain-extensions have no bearing, in themselves, either on SEO or on the value of backlinks. It's perfectly true, of course, that many .edu backlinks are very good backlinks to get, but correlation isn't causation, and it's not the fact that they're on .edu pages that, in itself, confers any "extra benefit" at all.

The point here is simply that many (by no means all!) .edu sites are also, at least to some extent, authority sites, and that's what makes their backlinks valuable ones.

Other .edu pages aren't "authority sites" at all.

I have a couple of .edu blogs, myself, but sadly their backlinks are worth no more than a backlink from any of my .com, .info or any other sites, and in fact usually worth quite a bit less, because some of my main .info/.com sites are now building up quite a bit of "authority" and some of their pages are building up some higher PR's, too.

So don't imagine that "being on a .edu site" necessarily makes a backlink better than any other sort of backlink. Sadly.

The analogy that always springs to mind, in this context, is the belief that having a "blog" rather than a "non-blog website" is going to confer extra SEO/backlink benefit "because Google loves blogs". Again, the logic here is pretty mistaken, and in the same way: it's the attribution of causation that's at fault. The reality, in this case, is simply that "Google loves regularly updated websites", and a lot of blogs do happen to be regularly updated websites. Again, correlation is not causation.

If you have a niche site about arthritis remedies, for example, a .edu backlink from a university's/med-school's rheumatology site is going to be potential gold-dust, while a student forum or blog which - like so many - is non-context-relevant and PR-0 will actually be no better at all than any other random non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlink such as an article directory.

Contrary to popular belief, it isn't the "being on a .edu site" aspect of it that gives any advantage.

Call me a skepchick, but (as with so many other things in internet marketing) if you ask people selling them, of course, you may hear a slightly different story. And that's more or less what you're doing at the moment, by looking at "backlinking services", which is why I'm suggesting you should stop doing that.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by triojobss

Where do you recommend I go or what do you recommend I buy if I am not backlinking myself?

Buying backlinks isn't really recommended. Google dislikes it a lot. And it's very difficult to be sure of the value of what you're buying anyway.

I really recommend that you do backlinking yourself, if you have a business model that's dependent on Google.

Backlinks on sites in the same niche as you, with overlapping keywords and LSI-keywords with your site, are good. Links from forums specific to your niche are generally good. Links from blog comments/posts of blogs in your niche are generally good.

Having a business that is dependent on Google and not planning to do backlinking yourself is kind of a "less than ideal" combination, to be honest. Many people resolve that by more or less "buying backlinks from services and hoping for the best", but (with apologies for sounding discouraging) this may be connected with the fact that many people aren't too successful - because that's often a way to end up with "mass"/"automated" backlinks which aren't relevant to your niche, and that's a real handicap.

[JDArchitecture]

Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ

That's odd... I didn't know SITES had PR... I always thought P stood for PAGE not SITE.

It does stand for Page -- Not web page, but Larry Page, Google's co-founder.

[gudrunsmith]

I just bought a new domain and yesterday was the first time I got a page ranking in alexa and today it was already down so much. In my eyes it has all to do about your content on your site and that your site is set up the right way.

Search-engine spiders love fresh content, so feed them.

[djasmin]

You create higher backlinks to your website. Then your pagerank will automatically increase. Normally all new sites having pagerank 0.

[WakondaMarketing]

SEO isn't an instant coffee that your site will get automatic high PR and rankings in search engines. You have to invest considerable amount of time and effort to totally reap the fruits of your SEO campaign.

[triojobss]

How would I get things like forum backlinks for the site?

Thanks.

[alanross]

Hello,

I submitted my site to Google about 5 days ago and I decided to check if it had been registered yet and I think it had been because my website appeared when typed into Google.

But when I checked with a PR tool it came up that my site was PR 0, does this mean that my site isn't ranked?

How can I solve this?

Thanks.

This is such a common mis-understanding. The google page rank has nothing to do with your website being indexed in the serps.
If that was the case then every site indexed by google would have a pagerank!

The page rank is determined by google, it is given to websites that google understands to be of importance, this is judged by what sites you link to, or have links comming from. You need to have links comming from high pagerank sites, to get a high page rank for your website.

But it isnt quantity its quality, you could have 1000 links from ordinary sites, but google will not give you a page rank as these sites carry no weight. On the other hand have 10 links from a page rank 5 site, then you will most definatly gain a page rank yourself.

My advise would be to get links from pagerank 3+ sites linking to you. Websites/forums/directorys.

[riysoft]

Well submission doesn't give you page rank. You have to built quality backlinks for getting page rank from google.

[julianbooth123]

Entering the site name into Google will show up your site even if it is having PR of 0 or it is having 0 backlinks. You need to build the backlinks for your site for getting the rankings for keywords as well as PR.