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| Knowing what sort of content to write | | 6 | 50.00% |
| The technical side of a blog | | 1 | 8.33% |
| Getting proper exposure | | 5 | 41.67% |
| Getting visitors to make it worthwhile | | 4 | 33.33% |
| Getting people to leave comments | | 2 | 16.67% |
| Not understanding how to blog properly | | 2 | 16.67% |
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I see a lot of threads relating to blogs. However, almost all of them relate to auto blogs and cash blogs which generate income from adsense, cpa and other affiliate products. So, being a bit of an old fashioned marketer, I was wondering if you have an authority blog? After all, the theory is that if you can establish yourself as an authority, then you can dominate your niche / audience. Yet, if this is the case... why don't we see more and more authority blogs and threads about them? Is it something you have considered, but found too difficult, or is it something your tried, but could not get any visitors? What's stopping you from becoming an authority and wiping the floor with your competitors? |
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Sure you can build an authority blog. It would take about 6 to 8 months of hard and dedicated work. Every single day. And there would be almost no income for the first few month. After a few month: Yes, maybe. If you want to have an authority blog there is a much better approach: Create a few products first. Sell them. Get known. And then start a blog. A blog is just one piece of the puzzle. | |
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It's definitely a lot of work. It takes consistent actions done on a daily basis to make this happen. Anything is definitely possible. I recommend tho, if you're aiming to brand yourself, don't flood your blog with all those unnecessary ads. Those only serve as a distraction for our visitors and they could click and leave our site and the worst part about it is... they may never come back. I say provide tons of value. Have an opt-in form with a clear call to action on what they will be getting if they opt-in and followup with them thru emails. Start sharing valuable resources with them and build a strong relationship with your list. This is how I earned my first big check my first month with my blog. It all boils down to if you're willing to do whatever it takes to make it to the top. |
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Why don't we all build an authority blog? Lots of work. Little instant gratification. Opportunity cost: the time you spend building an authority site, you could be spend building income in another area much faster. Most people don't have a system to do so. Lots of risk, suppose you don't get the respect/ranking you think you deserve. too much time/money spent on producing quality content. |
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But why can't you include it as part of an overall strategy... especially when the long term benefits are massive? All it takes is a quality post every week or so. You will get the respect if you provide quality content and you know what you are talking about. I don't see it as risky because even if the blog flops, you have ready made content to use for other traffic methods and / or products. Sal | ||
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Like I said in my previous post, blogging delivers a poor effort vs. reward ratio. | |
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Just curios how long you think you should spend on it? If you look at guys like Seth Godin, the post infrequently, yet each post is of high value.
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I do this for 8 different sites. I don't update them as often as many marketers do, admittedly, but it's certainly manageable. I'm an article marketer anyway, so I need to post all my articles of my own sites before getting them syndicated. I don't look at it as "FREE" content at all. I used to "charge" in the sense that I wrote content for other people, but I've found it works out much better paid just writing it for myself, because this builds up long-term, increasing, residual income from work done, so the cumulative benefits are enormous. When I was "charging" (i.e. writing content for others), it was those others who got all those long-term benefits. Now I get them myself, instead. ![]() Quote:
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![]() For me, they have been. I find that having a content-rich site, with content regularly updated, gives conversion-rates a dramatic boost. Quote:
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I don't suggest it's a viable alternative to list-building, obviously. But I find it an enormous aid to list-building. Far better for me (in all the niches in which I've split-tested) than a "squeeze page approach". I build bigger lists with squeeze pages, but I make a lot more money out of my smaller lists by building up "authority blogs", because different people are attracted that way, and they include more buyers, it seems. | |||||
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Could someone explain to me what exactly makes a blog an authority???? I think that is what I am going for, but don't know what exactly that looks like. My blog is in my signature, do y'all think it could be an authority if I keep working it???? Thanks!
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@Alexa. This sort of approach is definitely a marathon as opposed to a sprint for cash. So I guess it depends on the individual's desire. However, I tend to agree with what you wrote. @brit16: That's a great question and perhaps Alexa will chime here as well. It menas different things to different people. I see it as being a credible source of info in any given niche. I like the idea of being yourself and being interesting to your readers. This is where most blogs are found wanting. Simply posting articles won't make you an authority. This is why your blog posts are difficult to outsource. Because they need personality. Where as an article is pure info. The key is that whilst you may not see an immediate ROI, the longer term benefits are massive. It literally can take you months to become an overnight success. Sadly, many don't have the patience to do it... nor see the need to be one. And that's cool. Bottom line: If you can show customers that you know what you are talking about, then you'll sell more to them. A blog is just another way of communicating to them... much like a newsletter... only a blog can give you a much bigger audience as well as search engine advantages. |
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) hoping to get through the thread without anyone asking this question. ![]() In reality, I think the expression has two completely distinct meanings. First, there's "what Google considers an authority site" (which is the more objective of the two), which I think we can all take as meaning "a content-rich blog/site which ranks very highly for a large number of different keywords and whose outgoing backlinks have great value to the sites linked to. Something like that, anyway. Secondly, there's the more subjective evaluation of readers/potential customers, about which obviously one could write many paragraphs perhaps not boiling down to all that much more than saying that is subjective and that we all mean slightly different things by it, and take different factors into account in forming our (doubtless partly subconscious) impressions? Quote:
Very briefly (and will say more tomorrow or soon, anyway - perhaps in your thread) ... I like your site. I understand what you're trying to do with it. I think you've got off to a decent start in many ways. I think it's exactly the right sort of site for this sort of niche. It's not too glossy and professional-looking and that's a compliment, and a very good thing, because it means you don't across as "just another marketer". ![]() However, I think you've also made some fundamental mistakes (easily changed - don't panic!) of which the first and foremost is that you're not building a list. In my opinion, you're not going to sell that ClickBank product (or other products which you'll add to that blog as it grows) from the blog itself. Not in bulk. Not so that you can build it up and make a living from it. As it stands, you can make only occasional sales to a swiftly exhausted market. I'd expect you'll make some, and then they'll gradually tail off and you'll be left with very little. Here's the thing (and please excuse me, I'm pasting a little bit in here, from earlier posts I've made on this subject) ... however you look at it, selling ClickBank (and similar) products is all about three main things ... (i) You have to select the products wisely (obviously enough, without getting this part right, it doesn't much matter what else you do); (ii) You have to pre-sell effectively to well-targeted traffic; (iii) You have to build a list and form relationships with the people on it, so that they'll buy on the strength of your recommendation. Without doing this, your conversion-rate won't be great. These things aren't optional: you really do need to do all three of them. There's a huge turnover of affiliate marketers trying other ways and not being successful. The above overview - simplistic and superficial though it is - is representative of those who make a living from it, however we choose to attract our traffic. The product you're selling, in particular, in my opinion, is one that's going to sell "on the strength of the recommendation". It's not the product itself (or strictly speaking its sales page) or even your blog itself, that will (often) determine your sales: it's more whether you're the person through whom the customer chooses to buy it. (I don't suggest they'll think about it consciously in those terms, of course, but that doesn't make it any less a reality). With apologies, I'm being long-winded about this: all I'm really saying is that in my opinion you can sell this one far more easily by email (if you have a blog like this, through which people opt in to receive the emails) than you can from the blog itself. ![]() There are some other smaller, specific things I think you ought to change. Will say more when I have more time. | |||
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Usually the type of marketer who thrives on an authority blog is the type that loves their topic, is in it for more than just the money, and builds a huge amount of trust with their readers pulling in sky high conversion rates. I think these marketers also tend to be the ones who know little about technical stuff such as SEO. |
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Fair point raised. So you are saying that they are not usually focussed on the SEO aspect, but more on the content? Sal | |
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| The OP was asking about Authority Blogs, not blogs made by a string of 500-word articles with the sole purpose of ranking in Google. It is impossible to run Authority Blogs in 8 niches because no one is an expert in 8 different fields. We are talking about blogs like JohnChow.com, CoppyBlogger.com, EntrepreneursJourney, etc. (all 5 figures per month blogs). And according to my experience (i used to run a 5-figure per month authority blog), i can assure you that the effort vs. Reward ratio was poor. There are far more efficient ways to market online WHILE establishing yourself as an authority than blogging. |
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A proper Authority Blog is actually almost a full-time job in itself and requires TONS of work, and needless to say TONS of knowledge about the topic at hand. That's why Authority Blogs are almost impossible to outsource properly (your followers want to read from your and your knowledge, not from your guest bloggers), which is why they are highly inefficient from an effort vs. reward point of view. | ||
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![]() I write authoritative, 1,200-word articles which are widely syndicated to and/or referenced by other authority sites after initial indexation on my own property. I don't write 500-word articles and I write for readers, not for search engines. ![]() Quote:
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Remember, we're talking about Authority Blogs here with thousands of RSS and Facebook followers. We're talking about blogs that thousands of people subscribe to and read on a recurrent basis. An authority blog that has hardly no RSS or Facebook followers and hardly makes a few hundreds a month is not an Authority Blog by any means. And that's because in order to become an authority (a brand), by definition you need a critical mass of followers. That's why I was listing those top blogs before, because they do have that mass of followers and thus they can be labeled as Authority Blogs. There's NO authority without a mass of followers. Quote:
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I ran that blog for 2 years until I figured much more efficient ways of running my business, involving less working hours and much easier to be outsourced. Like I said before, from first-hand experience I can tell you that there are better ways to A) make money online and B) brand yourself. Or at least that's just my opinion based, again, in FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE | |||
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![]() We're having this conversation only because you seem (as elsewhere) strangely unable to reciprocate that, regarding the experiences of others which are apparently - as in so many other contexts - so very different from your own. | |
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His posts are usually fairly short, but are quite insightful. With regards to creating authority blogs, I think you have to have a knack for writing in an active voice that keeps people interested in what you're saying...and thats not easy. Even coming up with creative topics to write about, while still being poignant can be challenging. IMO, blogging is for people who are very social. If you don't have some of these traits, you'll have a tough time getting people to follow you. | |
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Ahem, ahem, forgive my intrusion... Just to clarify a few things. I am not overly concerned with or refering to becoming another John Chow. Obviously the term Authority is subject to interpretation. My original OP was more about having a blog as part of your business in order to help brand and present yourself as an authority in that given market. Not sitting their pumping out content 24/7. From my perspective, it's about providing quality info to your list of readers. I did this successfully when I had my real estate sites going. I built a blog and apart from reaching new visitors, I also sent existing subscribers and customers to it every time I updated it. NOTE: I had my own products on the back end. Personally, I think this is a great and effective was yo build trust and authority with your readers, as well as interact with them. It kept my list responsive as they knew who I was and what I stood for. There was basic stuff and there was some straight shootin' as well. In short, there was some personality that differentiated me from my competitors. Now I understand that this may differ from what is defined as a traditional authority blog, so sorry for the confusion. Another reason why I raised them is I see a ton of threads on here asking about new ways to get customers, and I reckon that with a bit of effort, a good blog will benefit you in the long run as stated above. I'm not fussed nor interested in becoming another Jack Humphrey or John Chow and generate revenue from having millions of visitors. For me, it's all about trust and confidence that a well written blog can give you... call it pre-selling if you like. Sal |
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Thanks for that Alexa. Just because we do not have a preference for a method, we cannot assume that everyone thinks like us, or that it does not work for others. AA, I appreciate your input and perspective, truly. But to simply state categorically that they are a waste of time doesn't really help others. Nor does arguing with posters who clearly have succeeded with them. Sal Quote:
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Therefore, I'm stating my own opinion based on my own experience, which is what an internet forum is about. Agreed so far? good. Now, the key issue here is what we understand by an "educated opinion".
So I repeat my previous statement: either your blogs have reached those levels (which is the level of a true Authority Blog), or I will simply not deem your opinion as an "educated opinion". Don't take this wrong in any way, but in order to have a meaningful conversation, both persons need to be leveled in the terms of such conversions. That's the difference Alexa: I'm speaking here from experience after having run a top blog. Now the question is: have you? If you have not, then I'm sorry but I will stick to my version of the story. | |
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2) "Arguing with posters who've clearly succeeded with them", you say?!?! Who has "clearly succeeded" with Authority Blogs here? because as per the last few posts, I have no seen ANYONE here claiming to have made 6-figures a year with their blog, nor having run a true Authority Blog for that matter. That's the problem with Internet Forums: people speak like if they have mastered their craft while their bank account proves otherwise... Now, I'm done with this thread. You're the OP of this thread. It's your choice to listen the feedback from someone who has been there, has done it, got the t-shirt (along with hundreds of thousands of dollars), and who is telling you that there are better ways to proceed... or alternatively you can listen the feedback from someone else who might not have a first-hand experience on what he/she might be talking about because he/she might have not actually run a top Authority Blog in his/her life. It's entirely up to you, and your wisdom, which feedback you want to listen to. Your bank account will reflect the results of such decision. | |
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![]() It's not compulsory (nor, apparently, possible) for us to have matching experience. That doesn't invalidate your experience in any way, and nobody suggested it did. It also doesn't invalidate mine (however difficult or unpleasant that seems to be for you to acknowledge). As in several other discussions I had absolutely no problem at all, here, with your perspective or your experience. It was only you who apparently had a problem, as in several other discussions, with other people's being very different from yours. For the record, only one of my content-rich sites is now 3 years old, is top-ranking for a whole range of keywords, has a big, accompanying, segmented list, and I have a range of 5 (sometimes 6) products which I review and discuss a lot on the blog and promote to the list. But no - it doesn't yet produce 5-figures per month - only "very respectable 4-figures". It'll get there. Maybe I have only 3 years' experience of this, but I'm also not a complete beginner, however much it appeals to you to try to belittle others' experience when, as in several other discussions, it's so strikingly different from yours. ![]() Fortunately, there's room here for your viewpoints and for mine. Which is - to quote your own exact words - "what an internet forum is about". Sorry about that. | |
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Because the writers are passionate about the subject I just give them the freedom to write what they want. I give them one of two Adsense units on every article they write to give them the motivation to build a following of loyal readers. The freedom means their writing is entertaining and a unique style that will attract their own followers. It gives the blog the ability to attract people who might not like one particular person's style. Authority blogs are ideal for those interested in traffic generation for advertising rather than just affiliate sales. They're suited to regular newsletters and can let you make cash out of niches that otherwise don't convert. I've got a long way to go with mine but the comments and emails of support are increasing all the time so something must be working. | |
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lol and what exactly do you know about my bank account? Perhaps read my comments throughout and not just what I replied to you. If you don't like forums, perhaps take your arrogance elsewhere. ![]() Quote:
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