BMR Questions

[byalik]

Assuming you have the smallest package (5 URL's) a day and submit 10 articles as allowed per day per domain, that is 50 articles a day. At a price of $1.00, that is $50 a day. I can't imagine everyone here is paying that much.

What is a good strategy to use?

[theverysmartguy]

Originally Posted by byalik

Assuming you have the smallest package (5 URL's) a day and submit 10 articles as allowed per day per domain, that is 50 articles a day. At a price of $1.00, that is $50 a day. I can't imagine everyone here is paying that much.

What is a good strategy to use?

Since these are only 150 word posts per link, I would just write them yourself. That is what I do.

To do 50 posts it takes me just under an hour.

-- Jeff

[byalik]

I guess that's an option, although I see it being more time consuming. From most of the threads I have read, people seem to outsource it so I was just wondering if they were all paying around $50 a day.

[athenistic]

Originally Posted by theverysmartguy

Since these are only 150 word posts per link, I would just write them yourself. That is what I do.

To do 50 posts it takes me just under an hour.

-- Jeff

How the heck do you pull that off?? If I'm totally nose-to-the-grind-stone, it takes me at least 4 hours to get that many posts out, but after distractions are accounted for, it takes me all day. Do you write on-topic? Got any tips you could share?

[athenistic]

Originally Posted by byalik

Assuming you have the smallest package (5 URL's) a day and submit 10 articles as allowed per day per domain, that is 50 articles a day. At a price of $1.00, that is $50 a day. I can't imagine everyone here is paying that much.

What is a good strategy to use?

I've heard of people hiring on odesk for $0.50-$0.60 a post.

[byalik]

still that is $25 a day, which is over $600 a month, a lot more than any regular seo service out there

[Rough Outline]

Originally Posted by byalik

still that is $25 a day, which is over $600 a month, a lot more than any regular seo service out there

BMR is much better than most SEO services and you could easily make more than $25 per day on sites using BMR.

[theverysmartguy]

Originally Posted by athenistic

How the heck do you pull that off?? If I'm totally nose-to-the-grind-stone, it takes me at least 4 hours to get that many posts out, but after distractions are accounted for, it takes me all day. Do you write on-topic? Got any tips you could share?

Sorry my bad, it takes me about 15 mins / set of 10. So that is about 75 mins.

I don't switch back and forth between topics. I choose 1 keyword, and write 10 posts about that 1 keyword, and then move on to the next site/keyword.

I am a quick writer, and I just buckle down and get it down.

My day consist of:

Adding 1 page of content to my site, then writing 10 posts for BMR, then I move on to the next site and do it all over again.

I can work on up to 10 sites like that a day like that. It takes me about 30 - 40 mins MAX to write 1 page of content and then 10 short BMR posts. I concentrate on 1 keyword/page per site until I get it ranking where I want it to rank ( the top 3 ), then I move on to another keyword/page for that same site.

I work on everything up to 8 hours out of the day during the week. I don't do a lot over the weekend, that is MY TIME.

-- Jeff

[athenistic]

Thanks for the tips. I'd rather write them myself than outsource them because it could add up very quickly.

[d0rhk]

Originally Posted by theverysmartguy

Sorry my bad, it takes me about 15 mins / set of 10. So that is about 75 mins.

I don't switch back and forth between topics. I choose 1 keyword, and write 10 posts about that 1 keyword, and then move on to the next site/keyword.

I am a quick writer, and I just buckle down and get it down.

My day consist of:

Adding 1 page of content to my site, then writing 10 posts for BMR, then I move on to the next site and do it all over again.

I can work on up to 10 sites like that a day like that. It takes me about 30 - 40 mins MAX to write 1 page of content and then 10 short BMR posts. I concentrate on 1 keyword/page per site until I get it ranking where I want it to rank ( the top 3 ), then I move on to another keyword/page for that same site.

I work on everything up to 8 hours out of the day during the week. I don't do a lot over the weekend, that is MY TIME.

-- Jeff

Wow damn you get work DONE.

The most I've ever written in one day is 20 BMR articles and to be honest my fingers hurt after it lol

I've since been able to generate enough money that hiring a writer is now viable. I still write anywhere from 5-15 a day, but I also now have a writer giving me about 10 a day. I found someone to write articles for me for dirt cheap

My goal is to soon not have to write any at all, and just focus on keyword research and site building.

Anyways I've got nothing bad to say about BMR. Yes it can become expensive, but you'll soon notice you'll be making enough money to offset the costs involved.

[Dr.faizan]

hmm Interesting still 50 posts in less than 75 mins is something unimaginable for me

[athenistic]

I can and have written 50 in one day, but after a couple days of doing that, I started to get very bored and frustrated. I was also trying to write for 25 different keywords/pages though, so that was probably why I was having such a hard time with it.

Come Monday, I'm going to start writing for one keyword/page for each of my 5 sites as Jeff is suggesting. I love the BMR results, and in the few weeks that I've been using it my traffic and profits have certainly increased. As soon as I can afford it, I'll be outsourcing it all.

[d0rhk]

Originally Posted by athenistic

As soon as I can afford it, I'll be outsourcing it all.

Excellent plan.

Honestly it seems like the most logical thing to do. Many writers can write much more than me and in much less time, so really.. why wouldnt I (or you) outsource.

[Cool Hand Luke]

Originally Posted by theverysmartguy

Since these are only 150 word posts per link, I would just write them yourself. That is what I do.

To do 50 posts it takes me just under an hour.

-- Jeff

LOL! I call BS...you write 150 word posts in a little over a minute each? AND you do this FIFTY times in a row?!

Please, if you're going to lie, at least figure out the math first...

EDIT: I just saw you changed it to 10 posts in 15 minutes...Nice try but it's still BS. Posts like yours don't help anybody because they set unrealistic expectations for others.

[mrtrance]

Anyone experience any SERP loss with their sites with yesterday's Panda update that is using or have used BMR?

[athenistic]

I use BMR heavily on 5 sites and exclusively on one of them. Only 1 went down, and it wasn't the exclusive BMR site. If you look around the other posts, you'll see that there isn't any correlation to BMR and this update.

[swym]

Although the limit is 10 posts per day, you don't have to submit 10 posts everyday.
There is an experiment conducted by a warrior ElectronPlumber. You can search for his thread in this forum. If I remember correctly he posted only 8 posts in a few weeks time.

[razorhound]

Originally Posted by mrtrance

Anyone experience any SERP loss with their sites with yesterday's Panda update that is using or have used BMR?

I used BMR exclusively on two sites - same theme, age, content length etc.

Site A: before/after
keyword 1 - 1,4
keyword 2 - 6,7

Site B:
keyword 1 - 1,1
keyword 2 - 1,1

So I don't think it has anything to do with BMR, unless part of the network was penalized and Site A posted on some of it.

[ttkim]

I write them myself. I take about 2.5 hours to write them. It would be faster, but I unfortunately have problems concentrating on one task for too long. I also don't write all 50, but anyway...

You can outsource them, but I don't know. It sounds too expensive to me. $50 a day is $1500 a month. At first, I was planning on outsourcing it when I had the money, but with that kind of money, I'm planning on just creating my own private network in the future.

[Dellco]

Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke

LOL! I call BS...you write 150 word posts in a little over a minute each? AND you do this FIFTY times in a row?!

Please, if you're going to lie, at least figure out the math first...

EDIT: I just saw you changed it to 10 posts in 15 minutes...Nice try but it's still BS. Posts like yours don't help anybody because they set unrealistic expectations for others.

LOL. Have to agree, it's very hard to believe it unless you are really spewing utter trash into the BMR network. I'd assume they are all pure drivel, assuming they are not spun in any way (and BMR doesn't accept spun content the last time I checked). And besides, doing that for hours each day? Not believable, unless you actually like spewing all that sh*t.....

It would take at least 3-5 minutes to write one *decent* post, even if you are a fast writer. And you got to keep it up like a machine, day in and out. What are you smoking, cos I'd like some please....

[JustSomeWarrior]

Guys, here is something you need to know about BMR:

You don't need to write a high quality post. All you have to do is put together 150 words that make sense and are in some way relevant to the keyword. This means you can write about your day, for instance. Think about the stereotypical concept of what a blog is: "Who cares about whether or not you got your nails done today?!"

You can write 150 words about the guy that blew you off the road on the way to work, and that he had a bumper sticker that said "I love my key phrase." And then you link your key phrase.

For those of you using BMR, I recommend you keep working with it. Very powerful. I also recommend you have a UAW account. I can show you a method to take 12 BMR posts and turn it into a set of articles that UAW would accept. Send me a PM if you want to talk about that.

I use this method and generate about 59 back links (through the two systems) with a total investment of my own time that clocks in at around 15-18 minutes. With a smart outsourced freelancer, you could get that work done for about 6 bucks. And then, you know, UAW keeps sending out your articles for days and days, so it actually turns into about 400-500 links for your $6 investment.

It still doesn't compete with some of the SEO services (like Matt LaClears) but the idea is to mix this with your other strategies.

And if you type fast enough, you really could put out 45-50 posts in one hour. I have done it. Getting into a second hour of that is extremely tough though, as your brain starts to numb up a bit!

-Steven

[mrtrance]

I had question regarding the number of posts and domains with BMR service? So if we pick the package that allows 5 domains and the maximum number of posts is 10 per domain are we able to point 10 links daily for 1 domain to the homepage as well as the internal pages of that same domain? So if I want 5 articles with link to "http://mydomaindotcom" and then 3 to "http://mydomaindotcom/my-keyword-2" and then 2 to "http://mydomaindotcom/my-keyword-3" or all 10 need to go to "http://mydomaindotcom" since that is the domain I have listed there?

I guess my question boils down to are we able to add internal urls per TLD that only count under 1 domain or will each internal url be counted as a domain as well? Or would that count as 3 separate domains and it would take up 3 of the 5 spots in the package?

[swym]

No. That will be counted as 1 domain. You can have 10 posts linked to that domain (including homepage and inner pages)

[mrtrance]

Originally Posted by razorhound

I used BMR exclusively on two sites - same theme, age, content length etc.

Site A: before/after
keyword 1 - 1,4
keyword 2 - 6,7

Site B:
keyword 1 - 1,1
keyword 2 - 1,1

So I don't think it has anything to do with BMR, unless part of the network was penalized and Site A posted on some of it.

Any ideas of what could have caused the drop of Site A? Many of my sites dropped anywhere from 5-10 spots after the update. All these sites use same theme, backlink strategy (mix of everything) and unique content.

[mrtrance]

Originally Posted by swym

No. That will be counted as 1 domain. You can have 10 posts linked to that domain (including homepage and inner pages)

Thanks for the answer. I was hoping that was the case since then I can promote the internal pages as well as the homepage of the domain at the same time.

By the way if we want to like replace the 5 after a few weeks with 5 different domains are we able to bring those back into rotation? How does this archive thing work? I saw the video and read the info, but not clear on what happens when we swap out the domains with new ones. So technically we even the 5 domain package we can promote unlimited domains since we can rotate them back in and out correct, just 5 at a time though.

Is it better to go for the big package like 20 and 50 domains or for the lower ones of 5 and 10 and rotate domains as needed?

[swym]

Yes. You can subscribe for 5 domains package and promote many domains. Archived domains can be brought back into rotation easily as long as you have more room for that.
But if you need to build links continuously for more than 5 domains at the same time, you definitely need to go for the big package.
Hope that helps

[mrtrance]

Is everyone doing the max number of posts per day for each domain that use BMR? If we do like 2-3 a day per domain we are promoting will it take too long to help with SERP movement if we are targeting low to mid competition keywords? Any general guidelines of number of article to output daily or maybe weekly that you will start seeing some results for this not so competitive keywords?

[swym]

Originally Posted by mrtrance

Is everyone doing the max number of posts per day for each domain that use BMR? If we do like 2-3 a day per domain we are promoting will it take too long to help with SERP movement if we are targeting low to mid competition keywords? Any general guidelines of number of article to output daily or maybe weekly that you will start seeing some results for this not so competitive keywords?

For me I did not publish the maximum number of posts per day. I have a 1.5 month old domain and I set the daily limit to 1-3 posts. I also did some social bookmarking to the website. It went to page 1 for the main keyword after 38 live posts in 2 weeks time. The main keyword has 1900 exact search per month and has a low competition.

Check out this experiment done by ElectronPlumber. See how he get his website to #2 using BMR.
*July 27th UPDATE* Week 22: The Great SEO Link Building Service Experiment of 2011

[mrtrance]

Originally Posted by swym

For me I did not publish the maximum number of posts per day. I have a 1.5 month old domain and I set the daily limit to 1-3 posts. I also did some social bookmarking to the website. It went to page 1 for the main keyword after 38 live posts in 2 weeks time. The main keyword has 1900 exact search per month and has a low competition.

Check out this experiment done by ElectronPlumber. See how he get his website to #2 using BMR.
*July 27th UPDATE* Week 22: The Great SEO Link Building Service Experiment of 2011

Are you outsourcing the writing of the BMR articles or doing it yourself?

[swym]

Originally Posted by mrtrance

Are you outsourcing the writing of the BMR articles or doing it yourself?

I have a team of writers doing that for me. I do offer BMR writing service as well. Check my signature.

[Dex88]

In my opinion, if you are not currently promoting a lot of domains in BMR and you can handle doing 50 posts a day without any trouble, then you really should stick to writing these posts yourself. However if 50 posts will take too much of your time and you can spend that time doing something more meaningful and profitable, then you really should consider outsourcing instead.

[Yogini]

Originally Posted by mrtrance

Is everyone doing the max number of posts per day for each domain that use BMR? If we do like 2-3 a day per domain we are promoting will it take too long to help with SERP movement if we are targeting low to mid competition keywords? Any general guidelines of number of article to output daily or maybe weekly that you will start seeing some results for this not so competitive keywords?

I have some keywords that I just do 2 posts for a few days a week that are low competition. You can do some testing that way as some words are fine without lots of backlinks. Also, make your on-site seo is good and you have used the phrase on the page in a headline tag, image tag, with bolding and have a few links back to that page from within your site.

Debbie