HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE

nest28 · 10-15-2011, 05:58 PM

I really don't know whats going on, but all of a sudden there are 10 new sites springing up every other day, all crappy made for adsense types sites to, seems no one is actually trying to make a nice site for people anymore, also the number two site has 13 thousand crap links yet is number 2 i don't get it

InternetMarketingIQ · 10-15-2011, 06:03 PM

Yep. People are losing their jobs, they have computers and everyone has been told they can make money online.

I'd expect the competition to increase. Doesn't matter if you can outrank them.

Yesterday I noticed TARGET using Adsense on it's site... TARGET. Jeez, if Target can't sell products online and has to revert to Adsense what does that tell you?

milapetersburg · 10-15-2011, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nest28

I really don't know whats going on, but all of a sudden there are 10 new sites springing up every other day, all crappy made for adsense types sites to, seems no one is actually trying to make a nice site for people anymore, also the number two site has 13 thousand crap links yet is number 2 i don't get it

LoL. You are not living in a island, do you? Of course it is normal that what you have discovered yesterday will be someone's else discovery tomorrow, and we are talking about the world wide web where millions of curious lurkers always find ways to dig deep what T. Berners-Lee had started. Piece of advice, if it gets too crowded then move to a new discovery.

nest28 · 10-15-2011, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ

Yep. People are losing their jobs, they have computers and everyone has been told they can make money online.

I'd expect the competition to increase. Doesn't matter if you can outrank them.

Yesterday I noticed TARGET using Adsense on it's site... TARGET. Jeez, if Target can't sell products online and has to revert to Adsense what does that tell you?

s
wow thats crazy lol... target tho and yes times are hard but i just don't understand why people wouldn't want to make good sites that people will return to again and again, one guys site is the exact copy of x-factor's authority site template, ugly plain and blue

Jeremy S · 10-15-2011, 06:16 PM

I agree with the post that said people are losing jobs, and they hear the can make money, etc.

That is the nature of the beast - in any industry.

Fortunately, you probably know more than they do, and you will probably stick with it long-term while they give up.

Competition is good, makes it fun!!

nest28 · 10-15-2011, 06:24 PM

I agree, most will quit, or just get it all wrong so nothing to worry about. I just wish they would make there crappy sites somewhere else, it's almost like having a clean neighborhood and have a bunch of people come a long and dirty it up.

boxoun · 10-15-2011, 09:26 PM

Ooh medical diagnostic sonographer . Nice niche lol jk

Dellco · 10-15-2011, 10:37 PM

It doesn't surprise me at all. All the time, I see all these crappy EMD MFAs springing up for virtually any term online as long as it has the remotest chance of making a bit of money, never mind if they don't rank.

It's the whole reason why nobody here would want to share their sites or their niches openly.

If you read the news (not just CNN by the way) you'd have known people are marching on Wall Street and every city around the world. Their numbers are growing. Most of them don't have jobs. Times are VERY hard, and I'd have to agree that the current system we all live under is archaic, at best.

I would imagine the money pool that advertisers use to advertise is drying up, while the economic vultures dealing in the darkened hallways and backrooms suck up what remains in the economy. The real beast is human nature (greed/selfishness/etc) resulting in a system that is failing, and the reality is hitting home even for IMers who previously thought they were insulated from the cold hard reality outside.....

MikeFriedman · 10-16-2011, 08:01 AM

A few years ago, I used to browse a lot of magazines, pay attention to what was being advertised on television, and watch for trends on the news in order to find ideas for new and profitable niches.

Now, there are two primary ways I find new niches.

1. I grab all the keywords from the spam comments on my websites and sort through them looking for things that sound interesting to me and then I further research it from there.

2. I check out the signature links of members in forums like this.

Unless you are promoting something that would be useful to internet marketers (and even then you should be including the link more for direct traffic than any SEO benefits), it is absolutely moronic to include a signature link to your niche site in a forum like this.

Why not just start a thread entitled, "Attention internet marketers. I think 'medical diagnostic sonographer' and 'sonography transducer' might be worthwhile keywords to target."???

You have thousands upon thousands of internet marketers browsing this forum. Some of them are pretty damn good at what they do. You really want to invite them into your niche?

Mike Anthony · 10-16-2011, 08:16 AM

I'd listen to Mike and boxoun and remove that sig stat. I could give you another reason but that would just make it worse

Dapper Fellow · 10-16-2011, 08:34 AM

Well, I agree that the continuing unemployment levels will force many individuals that would never think of trying their hands at Internet Marketing to give it a go. The same thing happens at post-secondary academic institutions experiencing spikes in enrollment during periods of high unemployment.

That sig tip is excellent!

Andy Hart · 10-16-2011, 05:32 PM

Your niche may have been featured in an IM product recently.

Whenever a new shiny product comes along and inside there is a case study,you can bet thousands of me too newbie affiliates jump all over it, happens a lot, that's why (most/shady/smart?) marketers never do a real case study using niches that they actually make good coin with.

Andy

nest28 · 10-19-2011, 02:43 PM

I have my own reasons for posting my site in the sig, but to be called a moron for doing so is crazy, I noticed a lot of internet market/ warrior forum members insult one another for no good reason, why? I'm not afraid of any would be scavenger larking on the forum trying to steal people's niches because their not smart enough to find their own. Besides there are many people entering my niche already but none are on page 1 including myself, making a site is one thing, building backlinks and content is another

MikeFriedman · 10-19-2011, 02:52 PM

I didn't call you a moron. I said what you did was moronic. There's a difference.

Chances are, there are a number of internet marketers that visit this forum that are better at marketing than you. That goes for all of us.

So why give them your niche? They may never have thought of it. They may never think of it.

My point was that you are not only giving away your niche by advertising it here, but you are giving it away to people that are very good at putting that information to use.

On other forums, hey go for it. I just would strongly recommend against it on an internet marketing forum.

nest28 · 10-19-2011, 02:53 PM

giving this forum a long over due break, now I see why x-factor did the same thing, besides I got work to do.

nest28 · 10-19-2011, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

I didn't call you a moron. I said what you did was moronic. There's a difference.

Chances are, there are a number of internet marketers that visit this forum that are better at marketing than you. That goes for all of us.

So why give them your niche? They may never have thought of it. They may never think of it.

My point was that you are not only giving away your niche by advertising it here, but you are giving it away to people that are very good at putting that information to use.

On other forums, hey go for it. I just would strongly recommend against it on an internet marketing forum.

point taken, and I thank you for your advice, sometimes I'm a bit of a hot head, and I put the my site in the sig briefly to experiment with something otherwise I normally wouldn't have done that.

MikeFriedman · 10-19-2011, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nest28

point taken, and I thank you for your advice, sometimes I'm a bit of a hot head, and I put the my site in the sig briefly to experiment with something otherwise I normally wouldn't have done that.

I tend to be blunt about things and not beat around the bush. I wouldn't call anyone from Philly a moron, unless they are a Yankee, Mets, Cowgirls, or Foreskins fan. But then, a moron would probably be the nicest thing I would call them.

I hope you found useful data from your experiment.

nest28 · 10-19-2011, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

I tend to be blunt about things and not beat around the bush. I hope you found useful data from your experiment.

Thank you I did, and your right I should take this business serious, and take better precautions to keep it safe. Good luck in your own online ventures also

nest28 · 10-19-2011, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardley216

Easy. MAKE A GOOD website.

Ones better than the ones springing up. It's what I did, and I convert even higher

Just take some time to make it better

thats exactly what I'm doing, my site is better looking, has better navigation, it focuses on what people in that niche want to know and not just what keywords get the most searches

donaldkevin · 10-19-2011, 10:17 PM

You are not living in a island, do you? Of course it is normal that what you have discovered yesterday will be someone's else discovery tomorrow, and we are talking about the world wide web where millions of curious lurkers always find ways to dig deep what T. Berners-Lee had started. Piece of advice, if it gets too crowded then move to a new discovery.

10-15-2011, 05:58 PM	#1
nest28 Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: philly Posts: 683 Thanks: 130 Thanked 299 Times in 116 Posts Social Networking	HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE I really don't know whats going on, but all of a sudden there are 10 new sites springing up every other day, all crappy made for adsense types sites to, seems no one is actually trying to make a nice site for people anymore, also the number two site has 13 thousand crap links yet is number 2 i don't get it
	Call me the "Anti-marketer" because whatever your doing, I'll do the opposite.

10-15-2011, 06:03 PM	#2
InternetMarketingIQ Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US of A Posts: 2,190 Thanks: 47 Thanked 258 Times in 212 Posts	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE Yep. People are losing their jobs, they have computers and everyone has been told they can make money online. I'd expect the competition to increase. Doesn't matter if you can outrank them. Yesterday I noticed TARGET using Adsense on it's site... TARGET. Jeez, if Target can't sell products online and has to revert to Adsense what does that tell you?
	Internet Marketing IQ™

10-15-2011, 06:16 PM	#5
Jeremy S Local SEO Pro War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: FL, USA Posts: 300 Thanks: 12 Thanked 212 Times in 42 Posts	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE I agree with the post that said people are losing jobs, and they hear the can make money, etc. That is the nature of the beast - in any industry. Fortunately, you probably know more than they do, and you will probably stick with it long-term while they give up. Competition is good, makes it fun!!
	Hey offliners: -Custom mobile sites for your clients, for wholesale rate of $199! PM me or contact me on skype: jeremy.r.s We do the work, you upsell. -Need leads? We have experienced telemarketers selling everything from web design to SEO. $12/hr. Contact for ALL offline needs.

10-15-2011, 06:24 PM	#6
nest28 Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: philly Posts: 683 Thanks: 130 Thanked 299 Times in 116 Posts Social Networking	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE I agree, most will quit, or just get it all wrong so nothing to worry about. I just wish they would make there crappy sites somewhere else, it's almost like having a clean neighborhood and have a bunch of people come a long and dirty it up.
	Call me the "Anti-marketer" because whatever your doing, I'll do the opposite.

10-15-2011, 09:26 PM	#7
boxoun HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 376 Thanks: 53 Thanked 35 Times in 29 Posts	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE Ooh medical diagnostic sonographer . Nice niche lol jk

10-15-2011, 10:37 PM	#8
Dellco HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 447 Thanks: 33 Thanked 69 Times in 62 Posts	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE It doesn't surprise me at all. All the time, I see all these crappy EMD MFAs springing up for virtually any term online as long as it has the remotest chance of making a bit of money, never mind if they don't rank. It's the whole reason why nobody here would want to share their sites or their niches openly. If you read the news (not just CNN by the way) you'd have known people are marching on Wall Street and every city around the world. Their numbers are growing. Most of them don't have jobs. Times are VERY hard, and I'd have to agree that the current system we all live under is archaic, at best. I would imagine the money pool that advertisers use to advertise is drying up, while the economic vultures dealing in the darkened hallways and backrooms suck up what remains in the economy. The real beast is human nature (greed/selfishness/etc) resulting in a system that is failing, and the reality is hitting home even for IMers who previously thought they were insulated from the cold hard reality outside.....

10-16-2011, 08:01 AM	#9
MikeFriedman Don't Drink and SEO War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: York, PA Posts: 2,009 Thanks: 207 Thanked 551 Times in 393 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE A few years ago, I used to browse a lot of magazines, pay attention to what was being advertised on television, and watch for trends on the news in order to find ideas for new and profitable niches. Now, there are two primary ways I find new niches. 1. I grab all the keywords from the spam comments on my websites and sort through them looking for things that sound interesting to me and then I further research it from there. 2. I check out the signature links of members in forums like this. Unless you are promoting something that would be useful to internet marketers (and even then you should be including the link more for direct traffic than any SEO benefits), it is absolutely moronic to include a signature link to your niche site in a forum like this. Why not just start a thread entitled, "Attention internet marketers. I think 'medical diagnostic sonographer' and 'sonography transducer' might be worthwhile keywords to target."??? You have thousands upon thousands of internet marketers browsing this forum. Some of them are pretty damn good at what they do. You really want to invite them into your niche?
	Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin HMA VPN - Cheaper than proxies. Access to over 17,000 IP addresses.

10-16-2011, 08:16 AM	#10
Mike Anthony SEO D'Artagnan War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,980 Thanks: 476 Thanked 1,090 Times in 701 Posts	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE I'd listen to Mike and boxoun and remove that sig stat. I could give you another reason but that would just make it worse
	The World's only Full ongoing, no limit, no question unanswered Mentorship on Building powerful SEO Networks reopened by popular demand for a short time.

10-16-2011, 08:34 AM	#11
Dapper Fellow Writing for Money War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 12 Posts	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE Well, I agree that the continuing unemployment levels will force many individuals that would never think of trying their hands at Internet Marketing to give it a go. The same thing happens at post-secondary academic institutions experiencing spikes in enrollment during periods of high unemployment. That sig tip is excellent!
	Fine Tune Your PLR Business!

10-16-2011, 05:32 PM	#12
Andy Hart Still Driving Forward War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 636 Thanks: 156 Thanked 63 Times in 51 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE Your niche may have been featured in an IM product recently. Whenever a new shiny product comes along and inside there is a case study,you can bet thousands of me too newbie affiliates jump all over it, happens a lot, that's why (most/shady/smart?) marketers never do a real case study using niches that they actually make good coin with. Andy
	I'm On Google + ------------- and of course Also On Twitter "The only thing thats keeping you from getting what you want is the story you keep telling yourself about why you can't have it"- Tony Robbins

10-19-2011, 02:43 PM	#13
nest28 Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: philly Posts: 683 Thanks: 130 Thanked 299 Times in 116 Posts Social Networking	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE I have my own reasons for posting my site in the sig, but to be called a moron for doing so is crazy, I noticed a lot of internet market/ warrior forum members insult one another for no good reason, why? I'm not afraid of any would be scavenger larking on the forum trying to steal people's niches because their not smart enough to find their own. Besides there are many people entering my niche already but none are on page 1 including myself, making a site is one thing, building backlinks and content is another
	Call me the "Anti-marketer" because whatever your doing, I'll do the opposite.

10-19-2011, 02:52 PM	#14
MikeFriedman Don't Drink and SEO War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: York, PA Posts: 2,009 Thanks: 207 Thanked 551 Times in 393 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE I didn't call you a moron. I said what you did was moronic. There's a difference. Chances are, there are a number of internet marketers that visit this forum that are better at marketing than you. That goes for all of us. So why give them your niche? They may never have thought of it. They may never think of it. My point was that you are not only giving away your niche by advertising it here, but you are giving it away to people that are very good at putting that information to use. On other forums, hey go for it. I just would strongly recommend against it on an internet marketing forum.
	Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin HMA VPN - Cheaper than proxies. Access to over 17,000 IP addresses.

10-19-2011, 02:53 PM	#15
nest28 Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: philly Posts: 683 Thanks: 130 Thanked 299 Times in 116 Posts Social Networking	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE giving this forum a long over due break, now I see why x-factor did the same thing, besides I got work to do.

10-19-2011, 10:17 PM	#20
donaldkevin Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: HUGH INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SITES IN MY NICHE You are not living in a island, do you? Of course it is normal that what you have discovered yesterday will be someone's else discovery tomorrow, and we are talking about the world wide web where millions of curious lurkers always find ways to dig deep what T. Berners-Lee had started. Piece of advice, if it gets too crowded then move to a new discovery.
	r4