Spinning and blasting 1,000’s of articles

Letsurf · 10-20-2011, 05:05 AM

I've asked the following questions to some very prominent members of the WF and wanted to share their responses. A special thanks goes out to Alexa Smith, Kay King, Nicole Beckett, and John McCabe. If you thank anyone, thank them.

Question:

I have a friend that is doing SEO locally and all he does is have articles written, spin them, then use Article Marketing Robot to submit them to 1,000's of directories. He does absolutely nothing else and charges $500- $900 a month to his clients for SEO. The articles are very low quality and not getting syndicated by relevant sites. The crazy part is that he's getting great results from just using this one method. Many clients that were not ranked at all are now on the #1 position. How is this possible?

Answers:
1.1.) Don't much agree with any of this one. I submit some articles to 2-3 top directories (or only EZA).

Good quality original articles - they get picked up by a few other sites - I often end with several good links from each article.

I don't spin articles - don't submit to vast directories - submit articles when a site is new and then occasionally after that.

2.2.) If the keywords are long-tail enough, and the number of backlinks high enough (high 6/7-figures) then it's possible. The spinning is adding nothing - this is certain. If he does the same thing without the spinning, he'll get the same results. Someone I know who has for the last 2 years been selling a service "based on spinning" has just discovered this, having refused to believe me about it for all that time. Some of these people are a little short of braincells and/or get terribly entrenched in "wanting to be right" about things and simply refuse to test them properly because they're convinced they "already know the answer".

3.3.) While the links you get from article directories don't have as high of a PR as many people think (after all your articles are getting published on their own individual page that has PR0 - NOT the site's home page that has a higher PR), I don't believe that any link is "useless" (unless you bought it or are trying to manipulate the system in some way - and, then, it's more detrimental than useless).

I do, however, think that it's a waste of time to submit articles to thousands of directories. After all, most of them are very low quality sites that get virtually no traffic and rarely get crawled by the spiders (so even the PR0 link you're getting from publishing there may take weeks or months to show up). I can only imagine that your friend doesn't have a whole lot of competition in those niches - and so any links (even a bunch of PR0's) is enough to vault him to the top.

4.4.) While it's true that backlinks from article submission sites have 'almost' no value, you can look at them like grains of sand. Pile up enough of them and you can play in the sandbox.

What's likely happening with your friend is that the combination of sites and local keywords mean that some links, regardless of quality, are better than no links.

If you have a keyword combo with virtually no other competition can be ranked with thousands of garbage links. In contrast, a similar keyword can be ranked with just a few high-quality links. Bill Platt (tpw) ran a test using an obscure phrase and managed to rank #1 using a single post on the Warrior Forum.

crystal2 · 10-20-2011, 07:34 AM

will be interesting to see what others say on this...

nicktyler · 10-20-2011, 08:16 AM

It's all about the unique content. It will have a very minimal benefit to keep blasting but it will probably not be worth the time. it is much more beneficial to take he time to submit high quality unique content to high quality sites.

It might be that the friend gets good results from theis technique but how long do they last and will they hold up to future panda updates?

halfpoint · 10-20-2011, 09:01 AM

Yes, content syndication works.

I don't think you could achieve very solid rankings for difficult keywords with AMR alone, but there are certainly very solid networks out there.

Any network that is made up of sites with PR is generally a good place to start.

Authority Link Network is the best, in my opinion, of all the ones I've used.

nicnac03 · 10-20-2011, 10:11 AM

As long as he can keep it up, he's golden, but if he stops for a few weeks/month his sites are going to the sandbox.

Letsurf · 10-20-2011, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedigger

I think it will not be very beneficial. After the updation of google panda, low-quality and duplicate content will not give you traffic. Its better to use spinned article. Waiting for answer of other experts.

I think you are confusing duplicate content with syndicated content. Duplicate content = the same content in more than one place on your Own Site.

roynetwork7 · 10-20-2011, 03:59 PM

google is not stupid and HATE this system.
recommend you not to use this.

boxoun · 10-20-2011, 11:55 PM

I thought duplicate content meant Google doesn't index. Maybe amr is a waste of time but most blog networks require copyscape passed content.

The only reason why I disagree with op is because its working for me. Otherwise, it does sound like good advise/ strategy.

10-20-2011, 07:34 AM	#2
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10-20-2011, 10:11 AM	#5
nicnac03 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 220 Thanks: 38 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Spinning and blasting 1,000’s of articles – does it really work? As long as he can keep it up, he's golden, but if he stops for a few weeks/month his sites are going to the sandbox.
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10-20-2011, 03:59 PM	#7
roynetwork7 Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: Spinning and blasting 1,000’s of articles – does it really work? google is not stupid and HATE this system. recommend you not to use this.

10-20-2011, 05:05 AM	#1
Letsurf HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 223 Thanks: 8 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Spinning and blasting 1,000’s of articles – does it really work? I've asked the following questions to some very prominent members of the WF and wanted to share their responses. A special thanks goes out to Alexa Smith, Kay King, Nicole Beckett, and John McCabe. If you thank anyone, thank them. Question: I have a friend that is doing SEO locally and all he does is have articles written, spin them, then use Article Marketing Robot to submit them to 1,000's of directories. He does absolutely nothing else and charges $500- $900 a month to his clients for SEO. The articles are very low quality and not getting syndicated by relevant sites. The crazy part is that he's getting great results from just using this one method. Many clients that were not ranked at all are now on the #1 position. How is this possible? Answers: 1.1.) Don't much agree with any of this one. I submit some articles to 2-3 top directories (or only EZA). Good quality original articles - they get picked up by a few other sites - I often end with several good links from each article. I don't spin articles - don't submit to vast directories - submit articles when a site is new and then occasionally after that. 2.2.) If the keywords are long-tail enough, and the number of backlinks high enough (high 6/7-figures) then it's possible. The spinning is adding nothing - this is certain. If he does the same thing without the spinning, he'll get the same results. Someone I know who has for the last 2 years been selling a service "based on spinning" has just discovered this, having refused to believe me about it for all that time. Some of these people are a little short of braincells and/or get terribly entrenched in "wanting to be right" about things and simply refuse to test them properly because they're convinced they "already know the answer". 3.3.) While the links you get from article directories don't have as high of a PR as many people think (after all your articles are getting published on their own individual page that has PR0 - NOT the site's home page that has a higher PR), I don't believe that any link is "useless" (unless you bought it or are trying to manipulate the system in some way - and, then, it's more detrimental than useless). I do, however, think that it's a waste of time to submit articles to thousands of directories. After all, most of them are very low quality sites that get virtually no traffic and rarely get crawled by the spiders (so even the PR0 link you're getting from publishing there may take weeks or months to show up). I can only imagine that your friend doesn't have a whole lot of competition in those niches - and so any links (even a bunch of PR0's) is enough to vault him to the top. 4.4.) While it's true that backlinks from article submission sites have 'almost' no value, you can look at them like grains of sand. Pile up enough of them and you can play in the sandbox. What's likely happening with your friend is that the combination of sites and local keywords mean that some links, regardless of quality, are better than no links. If you have a keyword combo with virtually no other competition can be ranked with thousands of garbage links. In contrast, a similar keyword can be ranked with just a few high-quality links. Bill Platt (tpw) ran a test using an obscure phrase and managed to rank #1 using a single post on the Warrior Forum.

10-20-2011, 11:55 PM	#8
boxoun HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 376 Thanks: 53 Thanked 35 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Spinning and blasting 1,000’s of articles – does it really work? I thought duplicate content meant Google doesn't index. Maybe amr is a waste of time but most blog networks require copyscape passed content. The only reason why I disagree with op is because its working for me. Otherwise, it does sound like good advise/ strategy.