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Doesn't really matter PartainSR. People who have a financial interest in a product tend to be biased toward it so the point is made just fine.
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Yes, it matters greatly for an affiliate. The affiliate has almost no financial interest in a product outside of the commissions he receives. | |
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| Yo Jack. spin ti anyway you want. fact are what they are. Its perfectly natural and a human tendency to be biased toward a product that you haveve financial ties to with affiliate link or without
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Some can argue it was too cheap considering it sold out so fast. Cost = what market is willing to pay for. I'm not supporting the service I'm just saying its probably priced just right. | |
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| I repeat ... diversify backlink sources, anchor text Relevant, Contextual link pyramid is the solution for current problem [230+ people can't get wrong] | ||
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As a nuke4me users, I have a question, Even though there are many great services here in WSO itself , why do you prefer to get in to nuke4me. There are many great services which even offer google page 1 and they have tons of reviews. Just checking to know from a user perspective. Quote:
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| I repeat ... diversify backlink sources, anchor text Relevant, Contextual link pyramid is the solution for current problem [230+ people can't get wrong] | ||
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Like any job the skill is not so much the tools being used but the person opperating them. No craftsman uses just one tool but a selection. And he always uses quality material to work with. SENuke X is just one tool and no one should ever put all their eggs in one basket. We have found that it does have a place in our tool box but you must distance yourself from the hype and think logically. Google has given us all enough warnings with regards to the quality of not only the content we place on the site but also what we distribute. Yes you may see a blip in serps but i can guarantee that if you are relying just on this tool they will soon be reduced when the next Panda filter is run. My main concern with their service was that no emphasis was placed on quality checking of the actual website being promoted. This lead me to feel that it was just a money generation service rather than an seo service and aimed at those who believed the hype rather than the substance of what was being provided. |
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Who is selling a $10 cup of coffee? It had better be good! | |
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Anything that does not meet those two factors (relevant/good quality) may work for a short time, but will end up getting zapped by Google eventually. Regarding SENukeX: No it does not do everything - they have now completely removed the Video Submission module (but not reduced the price at ALL) :P Regarding Nuke4Me: I run an SEO promotion service and so can not provide an unbiased opinion... but my clients can and do! Pricing is always difficult to balance, but I think the issue is not really the price, but rather lack of value for money. They are providing articles that have absolutely no relevance to the topic. Given that for less money than they charge per month you could get unique articles + press releases + videos + all of the other submissions/backlinking, I think that users have a right to be disappointed. | |
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| Wow thats some real distortion of the kind of links SEnukeX gives. When did Forum profiles get to have PR Mike? Bookmark sites too? Most article directory sites are not much better. This whole learning curve thing is just a side step of the very clear reality that SenukeX gives junk links. You are all kidding yourselves and the people that you sell to.
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SenukeX and SenukeX services follow the same IM snake oil that there is some Magic in the software or as the service sellers like to try - some magic in the expertise of using it. You can arrange lego blocks anyway you want you won't build a feasible house with them. Every success of Senuke X that people point to is not success for the tool - its an expression of the successfulness of keyword research and finding long tail weak serps. 147 X 4- 6 months will give ANYONE better resources that what SenukeX delivers. Buying links, trading links, or even using existing networks out there. This is a hypnotize the masses product and service sold on marketing hype and a classic emperor with no clothes story for IM. Plain and simple. | |
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what do you suggest? where do you build links from? I feel that I have been throwing money at these people (senuke) and not getting anythign back.... i even tried nuke4me and ended up cancelling and getting my money back - as even I could see that there was nothing to be gained from this service.... | |
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It's not my logic. It's basic supply demand. When people find out it sucks then the price drops. I might be quoting wrong theory but I think you understand. I'm not arguing value of service or links. I'm starting to lean your way on that. I'm debating current price and since it sold easily for the price, that means it was priced right. If it was long term business then we can debate whether it was good decision. If it was it and run for profits that's also a different story. Since we don't have that information, we can only debate on current pricing. Again, I'm not debating value just pricing. I understand you think it should probably be sold for $10/month. | |
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I'm not sure why he's always on attack mode tho. Likes to argue. You win mike. I give up. Senukex is garbage. | |
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| Box not everyone slants their views to a service. Some people actually find methods they believe in and that work and create services based on that. in my case its known by almost everybody that what I have in my sig comes as a result of a thread and requests from people based on it Setting up private blog network - SEO EXPERTS HELP ME! so the bias coming from my offering fails miserable since that proves it was the other way around. My opinion preceded anything I sell or sold. Some people do like yourself have their own biases based on their approaches and hopes of easy or instant rankings. However although I appreciate your highlighting my sig I'm on record suggesting Magic submitter over SenukeX - don't sell that and suggest BMR and homepage backlink services over nuke services...also not a BMR affiliate. Facts are some e prices sell on hype. People buy on perceived ability to rank and some products are hyped enough to imply value based on an assumed result - smoke and mirrors. So the market setting value argument is skewed. |
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I tried to get the service but doors were closed already. However i got a much more affordable SENUKE service that does exact as Nuke4me does. It builds links DAILY to your site, and you can try it for just $4, then is $47, $87, or $147 montly according to plan ( much cheaper than the official nuke for me!!) My site has rocket to page 1 in a month. Is someone interested the site is called nuke4me.org It was a good alternative for me, i dont have time to do the nukes myself, and for this low price is really a no-brainer. |
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Hey guys! This is my first post at WF but I have been reading for quite a while. I have also purchased a few WSO's in the last few months, so far all have been good. I have been a member of nuke4me since opening day. I have never used the Senuke software and was leary about joining but sometimes you just have to jump in with both feet. My experience with their customer service has been a bit shakey. I had the same issues at first, duplicate reports, wrong links, missing reports, no response to emails... About two weeks ago the reports started coming in every single morning and they look okay. I had one day where they sent me the wrong report, I filed a support ticket, they resolved it that day. They seem to have the reporting / support issues under control (finally). Here is what I have been getting: 1 report a day that includes 15-30 social nukes, 15-30 bookmarks, and 1 rss aggregate feed. Most of the links are still active but not indexed. The articles are pretty well spun with my links jammed in. Pretty off topic articles, at least they read pretty well. Finally, here are my results after 30 days: I am targetting about 15 kw's for a single site. Mid - low competition. I have been sending all links to the home page with snippets from the pages targetting the keyword phrases on it. 2 keywords - #2 in Google - #1 Yahoo & Bing 5 keywords - #3-10 in google - #2-5 Yahoo and Bing 5 keywords - #10-20 in google - #4-20 Yahoo and Bing 3 keywords - #21-50 in google - n/a Yahoo and Bing. Not too bad imo. I have decided to let my membership go another month and see what happens. I should mention that I change up my kw's every 2-3 days in Nuke4me. I have also directed the system at a new website as of today. I'll post any results I get. |
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A turn for the worse...... They deducted my monthly $197 yesterday via Plimus. Today I did not receive a report and my account is listed as not active. My service ticket was answered 10 hours later advising me to pay them again directly via Paypal. At this point I would have to say that these guys still have not got it together. I'll post updates as they occur. |
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Thats not good Schwanson mate. I personally have senukex and I have found that it DOES take a bit to get good at it and learn how to get the most out of the tools. Having said that, I feel that the results from Senukex aren't that flash. Too many people have it and use the default lists. Everyone is spamming the bejesus out of those sites and turns the back links to garbage. The only thing I have had use for it nowadays is the social bookmarking service to help get pages and backlinks indexed fast. I feel that there are much better ways to get higher quality back links. |
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I personally use Senukex and several tools. Still I choose Senukex as the best SEO tool. But this service is not as expected. They hired VA's and did most of campaigns. I saw many complains which buyers didn't get correct report. So you better to stick with your own tools. Test some methods and do it yourself.
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Profile links have gone down without a doubt, but there are those who stil swear by them
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check this out....... SEONuking - New Submission Service..! scroll down and read the testimonials then read the ones on NUKE4ME.COM.......... |
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Hi all, that is so great to read your comments and ideas about Nuke4Me. I provide this service so I hope I can help you a little bit in this aspect. - The advantages of Nuke4Me + Save time and money: Get #1 ranking in short time, do not need to invest so much money + The result is specific and can be proven, quick ranker and update the latest SENuke Strategies that Google Loves + No need experience in SEO, let provider make it for you - Packages: 2 basic packages: + Gold Package: US$ 197/month for 1 URL and 3 Keywords, promoting in 1 month + Premium Package: US$ 497/3 months for 1 URL and 3 keywords, promoting in 3 months If you need to know any information about this service, you are free to contact with me. I am quite sure you will be satisfied with this service. It is a good choice for all SEOer |
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Some other options to waste your $297/month on:
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This is a good service, which however, I only subscribed for 2 months. You need to really know what you want before subscription.
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Anyone had any good results with this service?
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Hi all, Sorry for confused information. Some people must have thought that we are Nuke4Me.com but we are not. We are just a SEO company who provides this SEO service. |
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I've been using Nuke4me since it started and I'm in love with their service! My 3 keywords are very competitive but yet and still we have shot up in Google ranks very quickly. I say in about another month or two we'll be on the first page for each keyword. The content they create for my company is right on point with my niche and they answer service and support emails very quickly. Usually within the same day. As long as they keep up the good work I'll be a loyal customer. |
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| No. I would have got better value setting the money on fire. If it got decent results price would not matter, but it is the worst performing service/link building action I have ever tested for SEO. It is also the most expensive. |
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I agree...they just opened up again...and i cant beleive people would pay that kind of money for that service, which in comparison to what im launching soon... Ridiculously better! and...the monthly bill will knock your socks of... Look for the Buzzzzzzzz coming soon |
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Like many others here I bought in to the hype about this service in the build up to their initial launch. I have used SENuke multiple times before and have gotten great results from it, however I just don't have the time to focus on SEO anymore so decided to give nuke4me a go. The main reason I signed up was that they touted professional users of SENuke and 100% unique and targeted articles. This turned out to be a major deception. For the first week and a half of my subscription I did not receive one report as apparently their professional SENuke staff got overwhelmed with the amount of signups and walked off the job. At least that is what nuke4me told you. Should this be my problem? Hell no. When I queried them about getting a refund for the first week I got quickly denied saying they will have been caught up by the end of the week. So at $200 a month I just threw away $100 of that because they took too many subscriptions and they didnt see a problem with that. Then when the reports did finally start coming in, I was very dissapointed to see that they blasted my Jewellery related website over EXTREMELY poorly spun articles relating to 'making money online'. This goes against what SENuke teaches in their training video's. The creators of SENuke have always preached that you must use related articles for the tool to be effective. Also we all know SENuke has the capability to submit to 100's of article directories, bookmark sites, forums and rss feeds during a single campaign, so I was expecting to see at least 100 submits a day. Instead the report only showed 15 to 20 submits, half of which did not exist when you clicked through to view the page. To top things off when I viewed the pages that did work that my link supposedly existed on my links were no where to be seen. They were apparently falsifying the reports hoping no one actually bothered to check each page they reportedly posted a link to. Lastly when I cancelled my re-occurring payment for this service, they cancelled my service immeadiatly despite having already paid for the month. I would have complained louder about this but I thought it was a good thing as I wanted them to stop linking my site to unrelated spam articles. To summarise, STAY AWAY FROM THIS OVER PRICED, MISLEADING RUBBISH SERVICE, take that $200 and pay someone on oDesk to do the job for you instead. |
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"take that $200 and pay someone on oDesk to do the job for you instead" Unfortunately you need to go through a lot of writers and backlinkers in order to find ones that consistently provide high quality and deliver on time ![]() They ARE there - but the only way to find them is through trial and error. Sadly I believe that Nuke4Me takes advantage of the fact that many of their target market know very little about SEO. 1 - Number of backlinks created does not mean s*%#. A handful of high quality backlinks will out perform 100's of low quality links in a heartbeat. 2 - You will never receive a completely accurate Article Submission URL report. The best article directories, many video sites and other high quality sites will manually approve content that has been submitted, which means that there is no live link at the time of submission that can be listed. The submission may be rejected, may be quickly approved, or may take weeks to get approved. 3 - Diversity among your backlinks goes a long way toward getting a great ranking. Relying on just a small number of sources (eg only article directories and forum backlinks) will not perform as well as if you also mix it up with Twitter, social networks, etc. 3 - QUALITY IS KING While you can try and exploit weaknesses in Google to get quick rankings, they will not last. Many of the sites that rapidly rise in rankings but have poor quality content tend to fall just as quickly. For the best long term results both your website content, along with content you are using for promotion (eg articles) should be unique, keyword optimized and on topic. Google is NOT looking for crappy matches. If the article has nothing to do with the keyword/anchor text being used then it will eventually get penalized. It may take a while for that to happen, but Google's aim is ALWAYS to try and get the best matches for the searcher. Good quality takes time. "Instant" or "quick" often means 'crap quality'. 4 - Since Google's Panda update, making sure that your website is staying "fresh" is a big factor in ranking well. You should be adding new content each month, if not then you need to be putting a heap more time and money into off-page campaigns. The testing I've done showed I had to do about 5 times more off-page SEO if a site was not being regularly updated. My advice to anyone is to shop around and take note of: - The ranking results you get (always measure monthly) - The quality of the content created - Quality of customer service - Whether or not they are willing to answer concerns BEFORE you spend any money The single biggest priority for me personally is to provide great value for money to all of my clients. I don’t do hype. The majority of our orders are from repeat customers, and so the priority for me, and for my employees is to always provide clients with a high quality, great value for money experience. If you want to try it out you can visit the Warrior Forum Ad here Alternately, if you are looking for a different service, make sure they are happy to answer your questions so you can see they know what they are doing. Also check out feedback that people have left about the service you decide to use. |
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Man, what an idiots at this forum, trying to defend SenukeX cause it has somewhat of a learning curve. A learning curve really??? Can't you people read English or something? I used a cracked version of senuke and soon after I throwed it away but the learning curve was 0, it states very clearly what you have to do with tons of those yellow question marks to assist you. So don't come up with excuses that Senukex is good but that people just don't understand how to use the software. The software is a piece of garbage and paying $200/month for NukeMe services is just ridiculous. |
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When I outsource a job on oDesk or GetAFreelancer I provide them a list with url's where to post and I also provide them with pre-spun articles in case thats necessary. Next I ask them to do 5 links from each list that I provide (I provide mostly like 8 lists of different sources for backlinks) and after that I manually check them and if certain things went wrong I get them on Skype to explain them and re-check the work afterwards. Once this process is done I have a hell of a good outsourcer to work for me and it costs me less then 30minutes of my time. I do agree with the "deliver the work on time" though, some move walls and others are damn slow. For article writing its pretty easy, I only hire writers from the US/Canada/UK, with a little search you can easily find cheap writers from these countries. For other projects I use writers from the phillipines for dirt cheap and have a native english writer proofread and edit them. A little trick that I use for content that doesnt have to be perfect is to chat with your cheap writers and explain them you gonna pay them even less if they want to keep working for you cause you need a proofreader to edit them, which costs extra money. My articles for a certain sites had bad grammar in every single sentence, after this 10 minute chat the next day the articles only had grammar issue's once in each paragraph and I was fine with that. You just need to know how to handle these people. A simple online grammar tool does wonders for their content. | |
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![]() Regardless of providing templates, clear instructions, answering questions, etc, unfortunately you will get some freelancers that just don't get it. I do not mean language issues - in fact the biggest problems I have had tend to be with US workers where English is their first language. Reliability is to me just as important as quality. It's great to have a good quality article, but if I need it within 5 days and they take a month to deliver then it's of no use to me ![]() I'm happy with the team of writers, video creators and backlinkers I have now, but it did take time to get the best | |
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Yeah I think I missed the word "consistently" in your post ![]() Btw just curious how much you pay your writers, I never want to pay more then $3/article cause I'm a cheap ass and its possible, for now, till I really have a massive amount of work to outsource, then it might become a big problem
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Where I am needing extremely high quality I pay between $20 and $40. Usually in that price range I expect the writer to have strong copywriting experience and am using that content for the purpose of it having a very high conversion rate. Under $5 the quality is rarely at a standard I am happy with. On average a good price range is $5 to $10 per article. For a $5 article I usually set the Title myself (often half the time spent on an article anyway). | |
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